From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #136 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/136 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 136 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] B7 - the ballet (was FC: Re: songs) Re: [B7L] Re: North American Magazines Drunks Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen... Re: [B7L] Review of Muir's 'History and Critical Analysis' - long [B7L] Fw: Blake's 7 2741157 Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen... [B7L] Repeats? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 08:39:18 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 - the ballet (was FC: Re: songs) Message-ID: <20000514223918.5270.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Nicola Collie >Oooh - two lanky teeth'n'curls in one story! >(potentially) How about just curls? >Would there be a role for Maddy beyond someone (Jenna?) arranging a wee >teleport "accident"? I don't know - helping Vila irritate Orac, perhaps? Or a long, heartfelt dissection of man trouble conducted with Jenna? Regards Joanne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:54:02 -0400 From: "Christine+Steve" To: "Blakes 7 List" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: North American Magazines Message-ID: <01d601bfbdf7$6199bba0$6e249ad8@cgorman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the info, Joyce, I'll check out the Starlogs in the second hand book shops, they do tend to have lots of older magazines. Might find a gem somewhere amoung them! Steve Dobson The Blakes 7 Files http://webhome.idirect.com/~cgorman/b7/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:21:03 +1000 From: "Roger the Shrubber" To: "blake's seven" Subject: Drunks Message-Id: <200005150626.QAA26497@vasquez.zip.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reuben wrote Avon joins Villa in getting completely drunk and starts musing about pleasant memories. *** This would be a great idea for one of those B7 audio tapes that come out from time-to -time. The possibilities for humour & character exploration are terrific. darren r A sense of superiority to the sufferer is a component of the human experience of compassion. ----------------------------------------- Life, liberty and the pursuit of property are the fundamental natural rights and the social contract is made to protect these rights. ----------------------------------------- Panic Disorder http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:01:22 +0000 From: Murray To: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen... Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Blake knowing that a crew of only six is too small, due to the ever-present risk of death or injury from the Federation, so embarks on a proper recruitment drive as soon as possible. Murray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:18:48 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "B7 List" Subject: Re: [B7L] Review of Muir's 'History and Critical Analysis' - long Message-ID: <09a801bfbe47$8a272580$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistral wrote: > Muir's book is indefensibly sloppy and superficial. > > Having said that, JMS is mistaken about a 'true arc'. What he's really > referring to is a planned arc. To say that an arc that's not preplanned > is not an arc is IMO roughly analogous to saying that a novel that is not > preplotted has no plot, but many novelists start without a plan; they > still wind up going somewhere by the end. Yes, but with a novel you only get to see the final result of that creative process. Unless you're studying a book, you don't get to see the first drafts and the bits that were hacked out: you see the final, polished product. With something like B7, you get to see the whole series as it's being put together. > Doctor Who did indeed use multi-part stories, even season-long arcs, > but the entire run of Doctor Who cannot easily be viewed as one > continuous story, with one theme or set of themes. Blakes 7 can. In > fact, B7 can be viewed as a continuous story in more than one way. > The fact that this was not preplanned, but was the result of careful > tying together of loose ends by Chris Boucher doesn't make it any > less a whole. If anything, it is a more remarkable feat of creativity. Since I'd always count myself as a B7 rather than a B5 fan and worship Chris Boucher as a god, I'm not likely to disagree with you on that :) But (naturally!) when I suggest that JMS's intended arc is somehow different from the story development you see in B7, I'm not claiming that the former is somehow *better*, just *different*. The environments in which these two shows were created and developed is light years apart, but I find it interesting to look at what these differences were and what impact they had on the show. Again, the matter of whether or not the B5 story arc works out in *practice* is another issue: it's not to do with the conception of the programme at all, except insofar as the show as it stands did/didn't live up to this original idea. FWIW (if you insist on a value judgement!), I think B5 did a good job initially in implementing the story arc - the ramp up the arc in the first 3 seasons is fabbo, really exciting. It all crashes and burns quite badly sometime during S4. B7 succeeds despite all (limited time for getting scripts in, limited money for implementing them), and it succeeds because Chris Boucher had the genius to see how to end it in such a way that the final episode resounds throughout all that's gone before. If they'd bottled it with 'Blake', I don't think (since this is my own interpretation) B7 would be the show it is. > Surely it was incumbent on Muir to have a point to make? Certainly, although it helps if it's a good point :) Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:00:32 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "lysator" Subject: [B7L] Fw: Blake's 7 2741157 Message-ID: <006501bfbe6d$f262d7e0$0d01a8c0@codex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This came through today. I suppose it at least means they read these things. Una ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 15 May 2000 12:20 Subject: Blake's 7 2741157 > Dear Ms McCormack > > Thank you for your e-mail regarding 'Blake's 7'. Please accept our apologies for the delay in replying. We know our correspondents appreciate a quick response and we are sorry you have had to wait on this occasion. > > At present we are only committed to screening season one of this classic science fiction series. However, please be assured I have registered your interest in screening of further episodes. I have also noted your further comments on our Saturday schedules for the attention of our Scheduling Department. > > Thank you once again for taking the time to write. > > Regards > > Damian Whyte > BBC Information > > > > Name :Una McCormack > Address :28 Kings Hedges Road, Cambridge > Phone : > E-mail :una@qresearch.org.uk > Company : > Position: > Message : > > I hear that the BBC is planning to pull the repeats of 'Blake's 7', and > I hope this is just a rumour. I think the Sat afternoon BBC2 line-up > could have a lot of strength if you regularized its times: with the > 'Farscape' repeat, 'Blake's 7' and TOTP2, you have a nice nostalgia > slot. 1.9 million viewers is perfectly respectable in these days of > multiple channels. > > Regards, > > > Una McCormack > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:59:23 +0200 From: "Marian de Haan" To: "Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] 20 things that never happen... Message-ID: <001801bfbe8e$ebe8cfc0$09ed72c3@marian-de-haan.multiweb.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Murray wrote: >Blake knowing that a crew of only six is too small, due to the ever-present risk of death or injury from the Federation, so embarks on a proper recruitment drive as soon as possible. Or: Blake dumps his crew of criminals and recruits a team of real revolutionaries. Marian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:56:56 EDT From: RCalla6725@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Repeats? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I rang the BBC last night - only to be told in no uncertain terms there will be no more repeats. :( Richard -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #136 **************************************