From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #163 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/163 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 163 Today's Topics: [B7L] Re: B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty Re: [B7L] Re: B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty [B7L] MSIE version 4 [B7L] Caption contest Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Re: [B7L] B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #158 Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Re: [B7L] Re: Always the bridesmaid, killed off all the grooms ... Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Re: [B7L] Re: B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty Re: [B7L] Re: B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Re: [B7L] Uncut "Rescue" Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? [B7L] Introduction Re: [B7L] Types of Cats [B7L] The Fearmongers [B7L] Research Re: [B7L] Types of Cats [B7L] Star Cops (Chris Boucher) [B7L] The only G&S tune I can remember all of (was B7 Bedtime Stories) Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake [B7L] Re:writing books [B7L] Re: Harvest comments from old Digest [B7L] Re: going to Terminal (old digest) Re: [B7L] Types of Cats ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:11:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Betty Ragan To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty Message-Id: <200006140411.WAA19235@zia.aoc.NRAO.EDU> Mistral wrote: > SLEEPING BEAUTY Oh, this was *brilliant*! > (Okay, I cheated, I took the easiest one; that just means the rest of > you will easily do better. Feh. I couldn't get past "Once there was a little rebel named Blake whose government had warned him never to go walking in the deep, dark woods outside the dome." But, you know, "The Way Back" simply doesn't map onto "Goldilocks." :) -- Betty Ragan ** bragan@nrao.edu ** http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~bragan Not speaking for my employers, officially or otherwise. "Seeing a rotten picture for the special effects is like eating a tough steak for the smothered onions..." -- Isaac Asimov ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:22:19 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty Message-ID: <20000613.232221.-89755.0.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:11:01 -0600 (MDT) Betty Ragan writes: > Mistral wrote: > > > SLEEPING BEAUTY > > Oh, this was *brilliant*! > > > (Okay, I cheated, I took the easiest one; that just means the rest > of > > you will easily do better. > > Feh. I couldn't get past "Once there was a little rebel named Blake > whose government had warned him never to go walking in the deep, > dark > woods outside the dome." But, you know, "The Way Back" simply > doesn't > map onto "Goldilocks." :) > Well, I don't know about Goldilocks, but once there was a little boy names Avon (Avon would deeply resent being called a rebel but, on a good day, might be coolly amused with anyone who called him a little boy [especially if it was someone he wanted to keep off guard while his friends planted bombs all over the person's space ship]). Despite this, Avon was called (when he couldn't overhear) the Little Red, Rebel Hood. Why red is unclear, since Avon favored black except for one rather unfortunate outfit not seen for years. Some people said it had something to do with the trail of carnage (or was that trail of Carnell? or was it Trial of... But I digress). One day, while carrying a basket of goodies (and, believe me, they were real basket cases, although Avon's assertion that he carried them all through the series with no help from Blake has been debated [to be honest, so has the goodies, but since the baddies were so bad that just about anyone not guilty of genocide looked pretty nice, the it's not the loudest argument]), Avon was looking for the way to Blake's house. You wouldn't think that would be so hard to do, him being a galactically famous psychopathic criminal or hero, depending on which news service you listened to, but it was. One would almost think it was a deliberate snub, but Avon knew better since without him Blake would have no one to carry him at all. But, little did Avon know there was an evil wolf in the forest (some say this meaning to the word wolf should only be applied to males. Those people never met this wolf). There she was, in her long, black evening gown with little twinkles sewn into it and high heeled shoes (on her feet, not the gown). "Oh, Little Red - I mean, Avon, if you are looking for Blake's house, just go right over there into the pretty meadow of flowers." Actually, it is regretably true that she said some things besides that which you think even a wolf would have been embarassed to try and slip into a children's story like this, but that's the way she was. Fortunately, Avon ignored her and the editor caught the stuff in time. "That field?" Avon said, "The one that says 'Warning: Terminal'?" "Precisely." said the wolf. "The one with the triple jawed snakes and murderous ape men?" "You've got it." "OK." said Little Red, Rebel Hood. The wolf smirked because, if there was one thing she'd learned about LRRH, it was that he never turned down a chance to look for Blake, no matter who offered it, even if he turned down everything else she offered (warning, warning: the editor is very angry that the previous slipped through and wants to speak to the wolf _right now_). Well, off LRRH went, carrying his basket case of goodies with him. There was trouble and mayhem and, by the time they left, there wasn't much off a flower field left either. "Where did you find the teddy bear?" one of the goodies asked. "Never mind." said LRRH, "Let's get back on plot and keep looking for Blake's house." "Can't we have a new plot?" "Like what? Trying to find a new ally and getting stabbed in the back each episode?" Even the basket case of goodies could see that wasn't a very sensible way to go, so off they went. Unfortunately, the wolf had gotten to Blake's house first. She knocked on the door. "Little Blake, let me in." "Not by the hair of my - Hey, wait a second! That's the wrong story!" "Oops, sorry. Blame the editor." (The editor would like to point out that wolves never take responsibility for their own command decisions and the disasters they cause) "I won't let you in." Blake said, "You're an evil wolf." "No, I'm not." the wolf said, "I'm really a rebel sympathizer being chased by evil bounty hunters." "Oh, in that case, mi casa es su casa." So the wolf came in and hid in the closet (the editor is no way crazy enough to let this wolf anywhere near nightclothes [even if they are the long, high collared, extra-frilly sort with long underwear and a silly, lacy bonnet on top] much less any other room than the very formal front parlor with a chaperone and the large front window where all the nieghbors can see what's going on. She is not to be trusted, understand?). Then Avon and the basket came along. "Blake," Avon said, "What a really ugly eye scar you have." "All the better to freak out the kiddies, my dear." "Blake, what an interesting cross between unwashed mountain man and pirate king wardrobe you have." "All the better to look memorable and impressive, even on a small screen, my dear." "Blake, what an awful lot of Federation guards you have descending on us." "I set this up. Tarrant doesn't understand. Avon, I was waiting for you." Bang! Bang! Bang! Also some rat-a-tat-tats and a few laser special effects. By the time the dust had cleared, Avon was the only one left standing in the room. Then the wolf jumped out of the closet with a bunch more Federation guards. "Hah-hah, Little Red, Rebel Hood!" the wolf crowed (now that it looked like he was finished, the gloating wolf really enjoyed using the hated LRRH nickname), "You're basket of goodies is done for! Your friends are gone! Blake was innocent, which you would know if you only gave him a chance to explain!" "Boy," Avon said, "I sure feel stupid." "You're about to feel dead! But, first, hand over that teddy bear!" A deadly light came into LRRH eyes, and those who thought the first R had to do with lots of red liquid that didn't come from a tomato weren't necessarily betting on the wolf (even though it was clear even Avon couldn't get out of this one). When, suddenly - They cut to credits. But, after that, in came the editor and woodsperson (or, to be honest, wood pulp person, also known as paper, which is what editing is all about except for the online kind), who said, "Back, evil wolf! I am about to defeat you with PGP fiction." "Hah!" said the wolf, "I have an ax, a fan base, and royalties!" "Double hah!" said the editor, "I have an eraser! And, in fan fiction, the person with the pen is _always_ mightier than the sword." Which didn't really fit, since we're talking axes and erasers, but editors are allowed some poetic license. "I won't give up!" the wolf said, "Even your reruns will be cancelled!" "Grr!" said the editor, who was getting a tad hot under the collar, "No more Mr. Nice Guy! _I know a furrier_!" So the editor and the PGPs won. LRRH was saved, as were the basket of goodies and even Blake, depending on who's writing. And they and their fur rug lived happily ever after. Until the next episode, because, with this bunch, happy endings cause severe disorientation and decompression problems. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:06:42 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] MSIE version 4 Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII We know one or two people have been having trouble using the 'buy me' buttons on our web site. The common factor is that they are all using Microsoft Internet Explorer version 4 (It seems to work okay for other versions of the same browser) If anyone who considers themself computer-literate and uses that particular browser, we'd appreciate help in finding a workable solution. Please e-mail Richard on Richard@Waveney.org if you can help. Thanks, Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:02:33 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] Caption contest Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII We've added a caption contest to http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 drop by and add your caption (we'll delete anything that's really really offensive, but we're pretty broad minded) Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:34:09 PDT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Message-ID: <20000614093409.60682.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Jessica said re Avon and Jenna: Possibly not (though, *if* he could have brought himself to off Blake at any point after Cygnus Alpha, I really think he'd've found it easier to contemplate doing the same to Jenna. But as he says ... Blake's first. And that proves rather harder than he would admit). But you try and persuade *Jenna* of that. As I said, he convinced her pretty well that he wasn't to be trusted (see her expression in the teleport scene in Time Squad, and that sharp "what did you do?" five minutes later) and from what I can see, she doesn't trust his motives from then on (right to Star One.) Simply, I don’t think she'd have a bar of keeping him anywhere near her. And he has no intention of leaving the Liberator ... Maybe they are alike, yes, but how many of us find it easy to work with people who have our own faults? And IMHO Jenna's one of the crew members Avon may care mildly about *as* a crew member, but has next to no interest in as a human being; they only work together in the series because of their mutual links to the others (witness that rare moment almost-snuggly moment in Redemption, and Avon's distinctly less-than- snuggly attitude ). Without the others - who wouldn't have been there if they'd ditched Blake, after all - mutual suspicion and self-interest would have caused a cropper very very fast. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:41:57 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty Message-ID: <39472934.D5487EF4@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joanne wrote: > Behave, Mistral, or I'll never get Hotel > Terra Nostra finished. Or the other one to a Psychedelic Furs song. I was just funnin' ya. Do finish the songs, Auntie Jo, Misty will be good. -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:19:42 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #158 Message-ID: <39474E2E.2181BE68@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Helen wrote: > I've been very, very busy. Art shows, cons, and now my brother getting > married to a woman the rest of my family can't stand, and I get to stand > next to her in an ugly bridesmaid dress (I know, redundancy in the dress > description). Pretend you're Servalan. She can carry off anything. Might scare off the prospective sister-in-law, too. Mistral -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:22:21 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Message-ID: <39474ECD.4770ED82@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally Manton wrote: > (witness that rare moment almost-snuggly moment > in Redemption, and Avon's distinctly less-than- snuggly attitude ). Now, Sally, he didn't push her away--I'd say that's quite snuggly. Mistral -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:19:26 PDT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Always the bridesmaid, killed off all the grooms ... Message-ID: <20000614101926.10703.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed After Helen wrote: Mistral suggested: *Anything??* (Mentally dressing a Servie doll in the pink and lime green lace dresses I saw at one wedding last year, complete with a row of bows round the neck, a BIG pink bow at the back, and puff sleeves.) Not quite, Mistral. Sorry. But OTOH, that's not a bad punishment for her sins ... in hell (or Sally's PGP land) Servalan is forced to wear fluffy cutesy lacy bridesmaid's dresses for the rest of her (probably unatural) life. And flat shoes. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:23:37 PDT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Message-ID: <20000614102337.53123.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed After I wrote: <(witness that rare moment almost-snuggly moment in Redemption, and Avon's distinctly less-than-snuggly attitude ).> Mistral chided: but when you think of it, does he ever? I'm trying to think ... but for someone who comes across all 'noli me tangere' he's actually rather touchy-feely all round. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:33:24 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Message-ID: <200006140633_MC2-A8A3-41C@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Judith wrote: >Can I count that as a willingness to buy a Blake model? > That would make three people out of the five needed. Five? Just five? Then Sally and I need only round up another three Jarriere fans? Actually, if I had a full set, that could make a change from model cricketers when I get round to decorating a 40th birthday cake in a year or two... Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:53:02 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Message-ID: <394755FD.95682981@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally Manton wrote: > After I wrote: > > <(witness that rare moment almost-snuggly moment in Redemption, and Avon's > distinctly less-than-snuggly attitude ).> > > Mistral chided: > > > but when you think of it, does he ever? I'm trying to think ... but > for someone who comes across all 'noli me tangere' he's actually rather > touchy-feely all round. Ooh, yes, he's just as cuddly as a black Siamese I once knew--as long as *he* wants to be, else watch out for the claws! Mind, he did push Servalan away in Aftermath (with Mistral cheering him on). And he didn't seem a bit happy about Max shaking his hand. Mistral -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:45:20 PDT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Message-ID: <20000614104520.74274.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed After Judith wrote: Harriet wrote: Ohhh ... what a *wonderful* idea!!!!!!!!!!! I could line them up on the computer, with my Marvin the Martian (BTW, has there ever been a B7/Marvin cross-over, and if not, why not??) and twenty-year-old cornflake-packet space aliens (don't snigger - they're considerably more realistic and scary than Brian the Spider. Or Moloch.) Doesn't anyone want to help this noble cause? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:49:45 PDT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Message-ID: <20000614104945.69162.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Mistral wrote re Avon: Yeessss ... I did once have this mental picture of Avon as a cat who's happily shredding everything (and everyone) around him, and Blake (and later Vila) acting as a sort of scratching post to take the worst of the clawing from everyone else ... Of course, with these two the scratching post can claw back. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:06:35 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Message-ID: <3947592A.B755CD15@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally Manton wrote: > After Judith wrote: > three people out of the five needed.> > > Harriet wrote: > Jarriere fans?> > > Ohhh ... what a *wonderful* idea!!!!!!!!!!! Seconded. Make that two more. It's a pity he couldn't come with a posable face. > I could line them up on the computer, with my Marvin the Martian (BTW, has > there ever been a B7/Marvin cross-over, and if not, why not??) Because you haven't written it yet. Get to work. Mistral -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:11:23 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Message-ID: <39475A4A.73EABC26@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally Manton wrote: > Yeessss ... I did once have this mental picture of Avon as a cat who's > happily shredding everything (and everyone) around him, and Blake (and later > Vila) acting as a sort of scratching post to take the worst of the clawing > from everyone else ... > > Of course, with these two the scratching post can claw back. Which is why he likes it so much, yes? Mistral -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:00:18 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Message-ID: <39473B91.969D6EFF@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally Manton wrote: > Also if there's a chance of a Vila ... but definitely Avon > and Blake. I should like a Vila, as well. And a Soolin. Actually I'd like a whole set, but I'd *commit* to Vila and Soolin. Mistral -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:45:37 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty Message-ID: <39472A11.4D8B6DFF@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for the kind words, Betty. Betty Ragan wrote: > Feh. I couldn't get past "Once there was a little rebel named Blake > whose government had warned him never to go walking in the deep, dark > woods outside the dome." But, you know, "The Way Back" simply doesn't > map onto "Goldilocks." :) Bran Foster as baby bear? LOL! Well, you know what Vila says: "If at first you don't succeed--blame Orac." Mistral -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:55:34 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: B7 Bedtime Stories - Sleeping Beauty Message-ID: <39472C65.CD354729@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ellynne wrote: > Well, I don't know about Goldilocks, but once there was a little boy > names Avon (Avon would deeply resent being called a rebel but, on a good > day, might be coolly amused with anyone who called him a little boy > [especially if it was someone he wanted to keep off guard while his > friends planted bombs all over the person's space ship]). Oh, Ellynne, this is all sooo funny! Thank you. Mistral -- I won't get to get what I'm after till the day I die.--Pete Townsend ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:31:06 +0100 From: "Isobel Gordon" To: "Lysator List" Subject: Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Message-ID: <003001bfd605$113304c0$13ef07c3@gillyworld> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judith said: > > If he makes Blake and we sell five or more Blakes then I'll start taking > requests for the next character. I've had Servlan and Travis suggested so far, > I think. > I would love my very own little model Servalan!!!! Izzy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:31:56 +0100 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Uncut "Rescue" Message-ID: In message <380997166.960929340354.JavaMail.root@web142-mc.mail.com>, rita d'orac writes >was rescue edited? just checked my tape & its says 2 uncut episodes. Yes, it was, whatever it might say on the box. The end of one scene was cut, changing its meaning, and a completely different take was substituted in another scene, again changing it. Maybe we should add this one to the FAQ:-) -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 02:12:45 EST From: "Jessica Taylor" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? Message-ID: <20000614161245.34255.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "Sally Manton" >To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se >Subject: Re: [B7L] Rich or Dead? >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:49:45 PDT > >Mistral wrote re Avon: >*he* wants to be, else watch out for the claws!> > >Yeessss ... I did once have this mental picture of Avon as a cat who's >happily shredding everything (and everyone) around him, and Blake (and >later >Vila) acting as a sort of scratching post to take the worst of the clawing >from everyone else ... > >Of course, with these two the scratching post can claw back. I think you're right about Avon being sort of cat-like. I always thought of Vila as a shaggy puppy with golden fur, most cats i've ever known would consider that the perfect scratching post. Whoa it's about 2am over here. see-ya. Jessica __ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:24:25 PDT From: "Isobel Hamilton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Introduction Message-ID: <20000614172425.29785.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi there everybody... I'm new. And I thought it would be rude to just sit here and lurk so I'll introduce myself. Firstly I have to say how great it is to find a bunch of similarly mad B7 fans, now I don't have to sit at home and mumble to myself :o) I shouls also point out that I've not seen all the episodes.. as far as I can remember! I watched them 1st time round when I was rather young, and am now building up a video collection, so I'm still refreshing my memory (I've got as far as.. Countdown) I would say I'm a big Avon fan, but I think you would all nod your heads knowingly. I own a white motorbike called.. what do u think a B7 fan would call a white motorbike? And of course a couple of lovely black leather jackets. OK I'll stop wittering on now, oh, just have to say.. loved the bedtime story! >' "I am Death," he said, in a voice like the opening of a lover's >burial >casket ' That is just a *wonderful* phrase :o) Oh, one last thing.. I'm a mural painter, so if anyone would like to commission a B7 mural.. ;o) http://surf.to/murals Isobel ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:59:43 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Types of Cats Message-ID: <000701bfd62a$7af96b40$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Susie wrote > There are the Death Warmed Up Cats who lie about snozing all day But the batting instinct is still there, as I have seen proven by a certain Bagpuss, who might be described as Death Warmed Up But Only Very Slightly. Nevertheless, whenever he was sprawled out in the garden on a warm summer's day, woe betide any grasshopper that strayed into batting range. Actually, come winter time, Bagpuss would warm up quite a lot, sometimes migrating from the kitchen worktop to the dining room table several times in a single day. The batting instinct was practiced on the second hand of the kitchen clock. ObB7 ... Er .. was Krantor's cat put in to suggest a Blofeld connection? (Yes, I know, utterly feeble) Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:45:33 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] The Fearmongers Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII The Fearmongers review by Judith Proctor I didn't really expect to like this CD and only bought it because Jacqueline Pearce was in it. Although I've caught various bits of Dr Who over the years, it's never been a major interest of mine and Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred were probably my least favourite doctor and companion pairing. What can I say, except that I've become a convert. The writer is Jonathan Blum and he deserves serious credit. This is a man who thinks in terms of audio. The whole story is one that is ideal for the medium and well thought-out use of sound effects enhances this. If he'd written the Blake's 7 radio plays, we might have had something far better than Barry Letts. (I have to add that I've never heard/read anything by Blum before, but I'd certainly consider buying another audio by him.) Listening to the play a second-time, I could find a few minor nit-picks in the plot, but they're the kind that are carefully designed to lead the audience down the garden path. And I duely trod the path . The red herrings were very good ones and when I thought I'd outsmarted the writer and twigged what was really going on, I was wrong - and the real explanation was a beauty. I loved the relationship between the Doctor and Ace - mutual sparks, strong respect, friendship, fast retorts and totally platonic. There were some excellent lines of dialogue, and well-delivered too. Anyway, I digress. Most of you will be reading this review because you want to know what Jackie was like. I was a little disappointed in one way - I was hoping to hear her in a different type of part (one reason why I enjoy her performance in Soldiers of Love so much), but she's playing a very Servalan-type character. Indeed, the very name, Sherilyn sounds a bit like Servalan. Sherilyn Harper is a politician of an extremist right-wing party. Think of Servalan crossed with Margaret Thatcher and you'll have the character about right. It's a good performance - in her opening speech I was thinking 'Margaret Thatcher' rather than 'Servalan'. So what's the story actually about? Well, I don't want to give too much of the plot away, but the Fearmonger is a creature that feeds off emotions, specifically fear. It inhabits a human host and uses that host to influence those around it. It creates situations where people feel frightened - hence its interest in Harper and her New Britannia party. The production standards are great. When there is music it is used to good effect. Sound effects paint a picture without ever overdoing it. The cast were all enjoyable. What more is there to say? The story is divided into four episodes which works well, but also leads to my only serious complaint on an otherwise excellent product. If you stop at the end of an episode then you don't know which track to go back to next time. There's nothing anywhere on the case or the enclosed booklet to tell you that episode 2 starts on disc 1 track 7 and episode 4 starts on disc 2 track 6. PS. There's a batch of audio trailers on the end of the second disc. I'm seriously considering buying a Bernice Summerfield story and I've never even read any of the novels with her in... PPS. There's copies for sale on http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:55:35 -0400 From: "Christine+Steve" To: "B7 Mailing List" Subject: [B7L] Research Message-ID: <006201bfd63a$93e88680$7d259ad8@cgorman> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005F_01BFD618.FA0BCDE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BFD618.FA0BCDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm testing my writing skills on a B7 fan fic - its something I've never = done before, so I'm not sure how it'l turn out. =20 But I need a little help with a fact. The crystals the crew were after = in City - did they ever get named? I know they were used in the = Liberator's weaponry system, but was there anymore information given? I = can't remember if they were mentioned in any other episode. Anyone know? Steve Dobson. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01BFD618.FA0BCDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm testing my writing skills on a B7 fan fic - its = something=20 I've never done before, so I'm not sure how it'l turn out.  =
 
But I need a little help with a fact.  The = crystals the=20 crew were after in City - did they ever get named?  I know = they were=20 used in the Liberator's weaponry system, but was there anymore = information=20 given? I can't remember if they were mentioned in any other=20 episode.
 
Anyone know?
 
 
Steve Dobson.
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The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 20:56:26 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] Star Cops (Chris Boucher) Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Here it is at last - Chris Boucher's second Star Cops novel, with a stunning cover by Pete Wallbank. This may be the best-looking zine I've ever produced (though if you aren't a Star Cops fan, the art may not mean as much). Star Cops was Chris's own series. It only ran to nine episodes, but it was real SF. The limitations were those of real science - no force fields, ftl travel, etc. The Star Cops are a hard-pressed police force trying to solve crimes committed on the moon and on stations in Earth orbit. Some of you will already have read 'An Instinct for Murder' the first novel; now we have 'Little Green Men and Other Stories', the write-up of another four episodes that Chris wrote himself. You don't have to have seen the series, the books stand on their own. Indeed, the special effects are better in the books as Chris wrote them the way he wanted things to be rather than the way budget sometimes forced them to appear on screen. I would read the books in order though - Chris uses continuity and there's a few clues to events in the later book in the first one. Ordering details and the cover art can be found on http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:13:44 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] The only G&S tune I can remember all of (was B7 Bedtime Stories) Message-ID: <20000614231344.45649.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: mistral@ptinet.net > I was just funnin' ya. Do finish the songs, Auntie Jo, >Misty will be good. Well, I haven't finished them yet, but seeing as little Misty says she will be good, I offer this morning's fit of inspiration in the meantime (the things that one thinks of in the shower!). Regards Joanne The Gases That Make Goth's Air Sting (tune: The Flowers That Bloom In The Spring, from The Mikado) BLAKE: The gases that make Goth's air sting, tra la To Star One will show us the way That brainprint is simply the thing, tra la I hope you'll agree to a fling, tra la Then back to the ship in a day, Then back to the ship in a day And that's what I mean when I say or I sing I don't mind the gases that make Goth's air sting Tra la lalala la, etc. JENNA: The gases that make Goth's air sting, tra la Are spoiling our means of escape They've already harmed your thinking, tra la You expect me to pair with that thing, tra la An oaf with the form of an ape, An oaf with the form of an ape And that's what I mean when I say or I sing Oh bother the gases that make Goth's air sting Tra la lalala la, etc. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:15:15 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed 14 Jun, Isobel Gordon wrote: > > I would love my very own little model Servalan!!!! That's two people wanting Servalan. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:19:58 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Model of Avon and possibly Blake Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed 14 Jun, mistral@ptinet.net wrote: > I should like a Vila, as well. And a Soolin. Actually I'd like > a whole set, but I'd *commit* to Vila and Soolin. Ah well , committing is what really counts. I think Ian may be a busy man if things go on at this rate. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:08:35 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re:writing books Message-ID: <39483AA2.4EB0@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I ordered this one and also Deadly > Doses by Serita Deborah Stevens and Anne Klarner, which is (you guessed it) > about how to poison your characters. In case anybody's getting worried now, > I'm only going to be using it for my writings. > > Honest. > > Drinks, anyone? > > Jacqueline Deadly Doses is my favorite. I found it useful in real life.... NOT for the wrong reasons! I have chemical sensitiivities... the book backs up that my reaction to caffiene is not my imagination, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:30:51 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Harvest comments from old Digest Message-ID: <39483FDA.6A0D@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > *My* biggest plot-hole is why the hell Dayna didn't teleport Servalan into > space (a la Vargas) at the end. Servalan couldn't possibly have known what > the teleport settings were, so it was a god-given chance ... Easy. No one TOLD Dayna the ship wasn't fitted with some failsafe to keep you from killing someone that way. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:36:15 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: going to Terminal (old digest) Message-ID: <3948411E.7E15@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Avon - Blake, definitely (we *saw* it) and a slim chance on Cally (but as I > said, I'm dubious.) None of the rest, not even Vila. > > Actually, for such a self-serving lot, this isn't a bad percentage ... > Possibly Tarrant (although possibly not until later in the series). Let's face it, when Scorpio was going down on Guada Prime, whoever flew it wasn't likely to survive. Tarrant only talked Avon out of taking his place by saying the moment the controls shifted hands they would *both* be dead... shaken to pieces before reaching the teleport. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:47:27 -0700 From: Susie W To: b7 Subject: Re: [B7L] Types of Cats Message-ID: <39485FDF.680A4786@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ObB7 ... Er .. was Krantor's cat put in to suggest a Blofeld connection? > > (Yes, I know, utterly feeble) We all have our off days... Geez, "Bagpuss" conjours up an image of a big fat kitty. That or a secret obession with Scotsmen. I know what you mean about grasshoppers. Sigrid is the seemingly most sweet of the brood, but she's a fierce hunter and often brings home grasshoppers to Mama (me). Oh gee thanks, Sigs, do you have any recipe suggestions? Susie -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #163 **************************************