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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 13
Today's Topics:
Re: Jenna's Jewelry was Re: [B7L] The Way Back 3/4
[B7L] radio play and Radio Times
Re: [B7L] Spam
Re: [B7L] :Upcoming excitement
RE: [B7L] Steve Taylor - Radio play details
Re: [B7L] PAUL DARROW ON BBC ONLINE
[B7L] BBC VOTE FOR REPEAT
Re: [B7L] The City at the Edge of the World
Re: [B7L] Del Grant?
Re: [B7L] Radio Play, anyone taping it?
[B7L] Gareth Who?
[B7L] cheap videos
[B7L] Re Spam
[B7L] Beards
Re: [B7L] :Upcoming excitement
Re: Concerning:Re: [B7L] inside the liberator
[B7L] Re: The Way Back
[B7L] test
Re: [B7L] The City at the Edge of the World
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:15:48 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Jenna's Jewelry was Re: [B7L] The Way Back 3/4
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Sue Clerc said:
> Assuming a conspiracy run by Glynd to aid Blake's escape, I
> figure Jenna isn't in on it. Glynd could've chosen her for her rebel
> leanings (the Avalon connection) or maybe she was the only pilot in
> custody at the time. But the idea that she was in on it is intriguing.
> There are two fan novels...The Long Way Back...and I can't think of the
> other title...that do involve a conspiracy of sorts to get Blake and
> Avon and the others together. They're well-written and go into a lot
> of depth about Federation society. I don't actually buy into most of
> the author's vision (I especially dislike her Blake 8-), but the
> zines are really interesting. What IS the title of the other one?
> It's the sequel...I can picture the cover...
'The Last Best Hope' and 'The Long Way Back' by Melody Clark. They are
undoubtely the most complex stories of the 'there was a plot to get Blake
and co on the London' type that I have ever read.
The Last Best Hope is gen, The Long Way Back is the sequel and is slash. I
brought out new editions of both of them recently. I'm not surprised you
rememer the covers. Caren Parnes art is beautiful. One of my two favourite
Blake portraits of all time is on the cover of The Long Way Back (the other
is Jean Kludge's cover for the Machiavelli Factor).
Judith
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:43:22 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] radio play and Radio Times
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The radio play is on Radio 4, this Saturday, 2.30 to 7.00
The Radio Times has a one page article with a picture of the cast as they
are now. It isn't a wildly thrilling article. I've seen much better recent
photos of Paul Darrow, but Michael Keating looks rather nice (almost a clone
of Gene Hackman)
I was hoping for a cover photo, but we didn't get that.
Judith
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http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: 14 Jan 1998 10:05:09 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Spam
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Claudia Marie <cmarie@tiac.net> writes:
> (I'm probably subscribed as cmarie@shell2.tiac.net, but my current
> From: address is cmarie@tiac.net,
There is a "fudge factor" involved, just to cover changes like that.
> But there can be good reasons for people to post from an address
> other than the one that they are subscribed from.
Yes. Non-allowed mail will be sent to the maintainer address, so I can
always forward stuff to the list if it actually was relevant.
--
Calle Dybedahl, UNIX Sysadmin
qdtcall@esavionics.se http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:30:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: Iain Coleman <ijc@mail.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] :Upcoming excitement
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On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Julia Jones wrote:
> I thought the (real) five-day beard was rather cute. Which is saying
> something, I'm not a fan of beards. Paul's one of the few men I consider
> to be sexy, rather than merely not actually repellent, when wearing a
> beard.
Come on, now, Julia posted this a couple of days ago. Aren't any of the
women out there going to say how much they like bearded guys?
No?
oh
Iain
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 09:07:00 PST
From: "Taylor, Steve [MIS]" <S.Taylor@lmu.ac.uk>
To: blakes7 <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Steve Taylor - Radio play details
Message-ID: <34BCF203@courier.lmu.ac.uk>
Grateful thanks to Nelly and Jackie for the play details. I have only just
rejoined the list after a months break and was worried that the date I had
originally (16th) didn't appear to be correct. I had trouble from here with
the BBC website - hence my plea.
I hope its worth it:-)) - the big danger is that, without the 'brilliant'
props and scenery, it will be too professional 8-P
Thanks again
Steve Taylor
Computer Manager at the moment but who knows next week:-(
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:51:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Goddess of the Moon <ccorliss@black.clarku.edu>
To: Andrew.Sewell@beeb.com (Andrew Sewell)
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] PAUL DARROW ON BBC ONLINE
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Every day I go to the website that the chat will be featured on. I have 2
questions: 1, how do i post a question, and 2, since it says that it will
be at 1pm, but 1pm in what time zone?
Cindy......sill hopelessly crazy over Paul Darrow
--
~Cyn~ @}---'---
**ccorliss@black.clarku.edu ** "For she's been waiting to bloom"**
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:58:09 +0000
From: "Reuben Herfindahl" <reuben@reuben.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] BBC VOTE FOR REPEAT
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http://www.oi.beeb.com/scifi-fantasy/index.html
A feature I'm suprised hasn't been mentioned before, is there is a vote here
on if the BBC should repeat the series. I'm not sure if the BBC notices
this type of stuff, but the votes aren't overwhealmingly for this. Come on
people, let's vote for this.
Reuben
reuben@reuben.net
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:40:54 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] The City at the Edge of the World
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Jackie wrote:
> Now we have Kerrill as well as Jarvik and Dorian as crew members. Does
> anyone else have a charactor they would like to join the crew, and why?
>
I would looooove to see Tyce Sarkoff join the crew. Talk about someone
for Avon to verbally spar with! He wouldn't scare her a bit. Plus, she
has a fine pout to put Avon's scowl to a test. Think what a great pair
Tyce and Cally would make, going down together on terrorist missions.
Oh, I should love to see Blake sticken by those baby blues of hers. And
those boots! She surely wins the prize for impractical footwear. Can you
see Jenna and Tyce getting into the Battle of the Fashion Boots? Can you
see Vila crawling after her, striken?
Tyce had a strength of will equal to that of Avalon or Blake. She had
the loyalty to stand by her president. She had the fortitude not to give
up, no matter how long her vigil might last. She had the guts to pull a
gun, tho she was no trained terrorist. She just needed a bit of training
from Cally. Then look out, baddies!
Pat P
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:53:47 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Del Grant?
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Matt Cherry wrote:
>
> Just wondering if anyon's ever written a fanzine story on the future of
> Del Grant after "Countdown"? ...
Grant has been rather a favorite with many fan writers. I recall one
story set pre-series where Grant and Tarrant meet "in the field" and...
but that's for the other list. I did like the way he kept calling
Tarrant "boy-o" Ha! Sounds just like Grant.
And I will admit to penning the "reunion" of Avon and Grant in a PGP
zine, "Checkers" just because I wanted to milk the confrontation for all
it was worth. It wouldn't be any fun bringing those two together unless
Grant "did" know - that's the conflict.
Grant is a fun character for any story, because he's such a good
commando / warmonger type. He is easily used to kick off any kind of
battle action.
>The constant animosity between Avon and him would have been
> even better that that of Blake and Avon.
oh yes; Del was so wonderfully snide and sneering. Del and Avon could
have sneering contests.
> P.S. Is it just me or is "Killer" the most disturbing episode of the
> series?
No, Children of Auron is the most distressing. In Killer, the killing
concept was from a remote past moment. In "Children" we watch Servalan
cold-bloodedly unleash the virus. Plus, the death was much quicker in
Killer; in Children, they wandered about bursting with terrible boils.
yeeech.
Pat P
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:04:28 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Radio Play, anyone taping it?
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On Tue 13 Jan, Reuben Herfindahl wrote:
> Is anyone taping the Radio Play Saturday. I'm a rather worried US fan, who
> can't get access to it. I can trade or pay or something for it.
I should be taping it. You might want to consider buying the official tape
from the BBC though. Any off air recording will lose a little bit in
the middle when the tape is turned over. The official tape has a few
minutes of interviews with the main cast members at the end of it, as well
as the play. (Although Sheelagh Well's interview tapes are more interesting
in that respect)
I don't know the overseas price from the BBC, but Horizon have copies and
it's actually cheaper from them. See their web page
Judith
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26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:38:29 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Gareth Who?
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I've invented a minor game of my own to while away odd moments.
Gareth once complained that nobody ever remembers his full name, and indeed
a recent infamous TV magazine quoted his name as Gareth Hunt.
The rules are dead simple. You get into conversation with someone who isn't
a major fan, but who does remember the series. The you ask them who played
Blake. Or try it with 'Morgan's Boy' and ask who played Morgan.
The results usually go something like this. "erm. Gareth Hunt? Gareth
Edwards? Go on tell me."
So you tell them.
"Ah, Gareth Thomas. Yes, I remember now you mention it."
You score one point for every wrong version of the name. "Gareth - I can't
remember his second name" also scores.
Judith
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Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:09:23 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] cheap videos
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There's a sex shop in Bournemouth that also has some cut price B7 videos.
If anyone's interested, they have tapes 15,16,17,18,21,22,23,24 in stock.
ie. mostly 4th season. They're 6.99 each or two tapes for 10 pounds.
The shop's in the Triangle, near all the bus stops.
They also stock videos ranging from old children's favourites, classic cult
shows and the videos you'd normally expect in that kind of shop.
Judith
PS. If anyone desperately needs those particular tapes, but wouldn't dare
walk through the door to get them, I might be persuaded to go shopping on
your behalf, but it is a minor trek for me to get into Bournemouth, so
you'll have to be very convincing.
PPS. The videos are being rereleased by another company soon, but I imagine
they'll cost around ten or eleven pounds each.
--
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Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:06:10 +0100 GMT
From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re Spam
Message-Id: <198170936MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
Re spam, Calle said: "I could make so that only those who
subscribe to the list may post."
One problem is that I'm sure I remember us getting the odd
genuine post from people who have found the web site and they
have a B7 query.
Also, this problem seems very recent and there have only been
two, I think. Can we trace how we have recently become a
target and stop it at source?
cheers
Steve Rogerson
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
Make your own tribble! Buy a hamster and cut off its legs
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:12:27 EST
From: Carolyn772 <Carolyn772@aol.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Beards
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Iain said:
<< Aren't any of the women out there going to say how much they like bearded
guys? >>
Okay, _I_ will! My SO has had a beard the entire time we have been together
(it has gone from brown to white in that time...) I LIKE beards, and can
easily picture Tarrant with a Van Dyke-style, neatly trimmed moustache and
beard. Blake looked good with his gray beard, and since I have seen David
(Gan) Jackson with a moustache, I know he looked fine!
Vila, now, I can't picture.
Avon would look good, too, as per his previous incarnation as the Sheriff of
Nottingham. <g>
Carolyn
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:08:00 +0000
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] :Upcoming excitement
Message-ID: <UdBF2EAQ0Qv0EwTY@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <Pine.OSF.3.96.980114102752.1538B-100000@bsauasc>, Iain
Coleman <ijc@mail.nerc-bas.ac.uk> writes
>
>
>On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Julia Jones wrote:
>
>> I thought the (real) five-day beard was rather cute. Which is saying
>> something, I'm not a fan of beards. Paul's one of the few men I consider
>> to be sexy, rather than merely not actually repellent, when wearing a
>> beard.
>
>Come on, now, Julia posted this a couple of days ago. Aren't any of the
>women out there going to say how much they like bearded guys?
>
I would just like to point out for the benefit of Iain's sadly abused
ego that this is merely my personal reaction, not that I think that
beards are intrinsically unsexy. I do know women who feel the opposite.
Because they like feeling the beard :-)
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:22:20 GMT
From: kawm@dove.mtx.net.au (Ken Minne)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, B7 Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Concerning:Re: [B7L] inside the liberator
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Good day all,
On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:20:38 +1000 (GMT+1000), you wrote:
< snip about Royal Navy >
>Actually, in some ways it's rather like the Federation -- a tiny flock of
>miniature ships being sent after the real artillery. I've always wondered
>why they never amassed a really good ambush. Even in Duel they only had
>three pesky gnats chasing after Liberator.
>
IRC, at the start of Duel, Travis laments that he has twice had the
chance to destroy the Liberator, but was only stopped due to the
interference of the higher command, who wanted the Liberator captured
intact.
Does anyone know of anymore information ( in canon or fanfic ) about
these incidents?
I can quite easily see Travis, in a large number of the Federation's
heavy warships ambushing the Liberator when Blake tried to attack some
Federation deep space facilty, and being ready, through sheer weight
of numbers to blow a by now crippled Liberator to stardust, when the
order comes down from on high.
Just as the Fed boarding party is about to close, our heroric crew
bring the main engines back online and leave the Feds fuming in their
wake.
Classic revolutionary theory also gives all of the advantages to
Blake, who can attack with surprise, from any direction and with a
little luck, against inferior Federation forces. The Federation can
not protect everything, all the time.
There are also parallels here to the German pocket battleships of
World War II, such as the Graf Spee, Admiral Scheer, and Duetschland,
designed to out run anything they could not catch, and out fight
anything they can't outrun.
The Royal Navy succeeded where the Federation failed, cornering the
Graf Spee with three cruisers, but fortunately for the British, the
locals were not as helpful to the Graf Spee as they were to the crew
of the Liberator.
>Bill.
>(soon to vanish)
>
Hopefully not premantently, >;-)
Walter Minne
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:30:32 -0500
From: Harriet Monkhouse <H_F_Monkhouse@compuserve.com>
To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: The Way Back
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Re the discussion started by Sue Clerc about Ven Glynd setting things up:
> He arranges for Blake to be deported rather
>than killed, knowing that if there's one thing
>Blake can be relied on to do, it's cause trouble.
> To help Blake get away from Cygnus Alpha,
>Glynd makes sure a pilot currently in custody
>is thrown onto the London, too.
Have any of the Avonocentrics suggested that, au contraire, it was
Bartolomew who plotted to save her ex from Cygnus Alpha by giving him not
just a skilled pilot but a bolshie rebel guaranteed to try taking over the
ship?
Not that I would attempt to argue such a case myself, of course.
Harriet
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:48:53 GMT
From: Wildstar@tf-ring.com (Willdstar)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] test
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sorry about this gang, i just want to make sure i'm still subbed
(please forgive me)
...it was a love that could never be and a hatred that always was...
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:08:52 +0000
From: Russ Massey <russ@wriding.demon.co.uk>
To: pussnboots@geocities.com
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] The City at the Edge of the World
Message-ID: <fkBT4CAklSv0EwRs@wriding.demon.co.uk>
In message <34BC33C6.E4A@geocities.com>, Pat Patera
<pussnboots@geocities.com> writes
>Jackie wrote:
>
>> Now we have Kerrill as well as Jarvik and Dorian as crew members. Does
>> anyone else have a charactor they would like to join the crew, and why?
>>
>I would looooove to see Tyce Sarkoff join the crew. Talk about someone
>for Avon to verbally spar with! He wouldn't scare her a bit. Plus, she
>has a fine pout to put Avon's scowl to a test.
Yep - best pair of lips in the series, without a doubt.
> Think what a great pair
>Tyce and Cally would make, going down together on terrorist missions.
Cally in her white fur with black spots, Tyce in all black with gleaming hair...
>Oh, I should love to see Blake sticken by those baby blues of hers. And
>those boots! She surely wins the prize for impractical footwear.
I think having a gun in your boot is extremely practical - you wouldn't get
anything sufficiently lethal hidden in *sensible* shoes, now would you!
--
Russ Massey
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