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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 164
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why??
[B7L] Lost in Space
[B7L] Re criminals
[B7L] Lost in Space postponed
[B7L] The Bastards!
Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why??
[B7L] Lost in Space
[B7L] B7 Videos in USA addendum
Re: [B7L] Lost in Space
Re: [B7L] Lost in Space postponed
Re: [B7L] Lost in Space
Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks
Re: [B7L] Criminals
Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks
Re: [B7L] Travis.
[B7L] FS: B7/DW etc Dreamwatch back-issues
Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks
[B7L] Dreamwatch back issues
[B7L] Lost in Space postponed
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:15:10 +0100 (BST)
From: Rob Clother <rob@amsta.leeds.ac.uk>
To: B7 mailing list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why??
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> In my wilder dreams, somebody decides to re-edit Blake's 7 and changes nothing
> except the special efects. Not a single character moment is lost or changed,
> but the space battles suddenly look amazing.
Of course, after all the nasty things you can say about the special
effects, the Liberator is still cooler (and scarier) than anything you'll
find in Star Trek -- even the new ones.
Anyway, it's time to stop being annoying for a bit. I shouldn't really be
subscribed to this list from my work account, so I'm going to vanish again
for a couple of months. In the mean time, if anything interesting goes
down, like a Pages booze-up or an Up-North do, I'd be really, really
grateful if some nice person could drop me a note...
Cheerio, and thanks for putting up with me,
-- Rob
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:52:02 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space
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It's tonight isn't it? I can't wait.
The DJ I'm listening to just recommended people to watch it. Alas he didn't
mention B7.
Alison
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:44:10 +0100 GMT
From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re criminals
Message-Id: <698194893MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
The whole business about Blake's trial raises other questions,
not least the length the Federation was prepared to go to -
altering children's minds so they believe they were abused. But
it does beg the question of why didn't they also alter Blake's
mind so he believed he did abuse them. Secondly, I find it very
hard to belive that a lawyer familiar with the judicial system
was so naieve as to its corruption. As to other mentions, I agree
that it was strange Blake didn't come across more opposition
because of the charge. It was obviously still something thought
very poorly of judging by Raiker's taunt on the London. I agree
with Judith that it would have become tedious if it had turned
into a version of Branded in space, but ignoring it completely
after the London didn't gel.
cheers
Steve Rogerson
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
"The workers united will never be ignited"
Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:27:06 +0100 GMT
From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, space-city@world.std.com
Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space postponed
Message-Id: <698195367MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
The Lost in Space programme featuring Blake's 7 fans that was
due to go out tonight on BBC 2 was postponed at the last
minute because some stupid tennis match went on longer than
expected. I've rung BBC 2 to complain and they say they don't
know when it will be shown again but to ring on Monday to
find out. Can I ask all the other UK fans to ring and complain
about it being postponed, the reason being is that they are likely
to postpone it indefinitely unless they get a lot of flack.
cheers
Steve Rogerson
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
"The workers united will never be ignited"
Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 98 18:30:01 UT
From: "Anne Lane" <Anne_and_Mike_Lane@classic.msn.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] The Bastards!
Message-Id: <UPMAIL01.199806121829520816@classic.msn.com>
I have just phoned the BBC on 0181 743 8000 to complain about the postponement
of the Blake's 7 Lost in Space episode in favour of yet more sport. They said
it would be shown next week. When asked why it couldn't just be shown a little
late they said 'live sport always takes precedence'. I said I thought there
was enough sport on television at the moment, and as far as I knew this
program was the only Blake's 7 related program produced by the BBC in the
twentieth anniversary year.
Incidentally, I notice that in July UK Gold are starting to show Blake's 7 on
both Saturday and Sunday mornings.
Anne Lane
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:36:47 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why??
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On Fri 12 Jun, Rob Clother wrote:
>
>
> > In my wilder dreams, somebody decides to re-edit Blake's 7 and changes nothing
> > except the special efects. Not a single character moment is lost or changed,
> > but the space battles suddenly look amazing.
>
>
> Of course, after all the nasty things you can say about the special
> effects, the Liberator is still cooler (and scarier) than anything you'll
> find in Star Trek -- even the new ones.
Absolutely. Liberator is beautiful! I want a model, but the only kit I ever
saw made up into something too small. I want Liberator about a foot across so I
can hang her in the high part of the stairwell.
>
> Anyway, it's time to stop being annoying for a bit. I shouldn't really be
> subscribed to this list from my work account, so I'm going to vanish again
> for a couple of months. In the mean time, if anything interesting goes
> down, like a Pages booze-up or an Up-North do, I'd be really, really
> grateful if some nice person could drop me a note...
>
> Cheerio, and thanks for putting up with me,
We'll miss you. You've saved me an awful lot of typing recently by managing to
say the things I'd normallly say, but saying them first and better.
Don't stay away too long. I'd actually managed to get started on the second
chapter of my long-suffering vampire novel.
Judith
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:31:38 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space
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I hate tennis!!!!
Judith
PS. I imagine it's anyone's guess as to when it will be shown now. Programmes
lost after sport overruns get tucked into all sorts of horrible corners.
Assuming they don't vanish into limbo alltogether.
PPS. If anyone finds out when it's actually being shown, please tell me.
<sniffle>
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:26:22 -0400
From: "cmhg" <cmhg@email.msn.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] B7 Videos in USA addendum
Message-ID: <008201bd9637$fcd495c0$a54efad0@default>
Sorry, I did not realize that the 3 digit code was required to enter the
page where the Blakes 7 videos are available. Here is how you get to it:
www.columbiahouse.com/vl
Enter the 3 digit code from the magazine code or mailing. This code is PXQ.
Go to number 6. You will find the video there. Select the video to see an
"interesting" synopsis of the series, and to order online if you choose to.
Sorry for any confusion.
hg
cmhg@msn.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:26:58 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Lost in Space
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Cancelled for Tim Henman.
*sigh*
Does anyone know when it will be on?
Alison
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:36:25 +0200
From: "Nelly Meijerink" <nmeyrink@bart.nl>
To: <STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>,
<space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Lost in Space postponed
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steve wrote
> The Lost in Space programme featuring Blake's 7 fans that was
> due to go out tonight on BBC 2 was postponed at the last
> minute because some stupid tennis match went on longer than
> expected. I've rung BBC 2 to complain and they say they don't
> know when it will be shown again but to ring on Monday to
> find out. Can I ask all the other UK fans to ring and complain
> about it being postponed, the reason being is that they are likely
> to postpone it indefinitely unless they get a lot of flack.
I like watching tennis but I HATE it when it is interfering with my main
interest. Please, what is the phone number (of the BBC) so I can let
them know ' they should not ever do this (again)!!!'
Nelly
(polishing her guns)
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'Am I in a fit state to encounter
my fellow-beings?' she asked.
VW, VO 243
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:59:20 +0000
From: Katharine Woods <kjw@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Lost in Space
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I rush home, get into the living room, triumphantly just in time, and
switch the TV on at 7:14pm to find there's a tennis match going on and
on and on and on. And it's not even Wimbledon.
And how come we get two popup messages telling us that Quantum Leaps
(not the Scott whatsit program) is postponed till next week and nothing,
that's diddly over squat, about Lost In Space?
Mutter, mutter, grumble.
I'll probably get to Reading tomorrow and find that the Hexagon have
cancelled Guards Guards in lieu of a badminton match.
> PPS. If anyone finds out when it's actually being shown, please tell me.
> <sniffle>
Me too, please.
Steve, could you let us have the phone number to ring and complain. I
tried to find it on the Beeb's web site but that crashed my browser.
Thank heaven that the ending to Invasion Earth wasn't as feeble as I
thought it might be.
Disgruntled of Rugby,
Katharine (Woods)
kjw@whitecrow.demon.co.uk
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:03:11 -0700
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks
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Rob Clother wrote:
> > ... and Tarrant as a tall glass of milk.
> Big drink of water might be a bit more appropriate.
>
Are you calling Tarrant a drip?
Pat P
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:12:19 -0700
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Criminals
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Reuben Herfindahl wrote:
> Maybe it's just because I'm too new to this,
> but I've never seen any pre Way Back Blake fan fic. I think it would be
> fascinating.
>
Yes, you have not read enough fanfic. All the characters have had their
pre-Liberator lives detailed - from childhood thru their nefarious
troublesome teen years, not to mention their various amorous affairs
with one another who they met in any number of unlikely coincidences.
When it comes to fanfic, no stone has been left unturned.
On the thread of recalling tales that dealt with Blake's crime of child
molestation: one story treated the subject seriously and did an
excellent job of showing how hard Blake fought against his inclinations
(which he knew were not good) in this direction. The story had some
rebel's child - frightened by a thunderstorm - come climb into the
safety of Big Blake's bed. Oh poor, sorely tempted Blake! (However, he
overreacted in the other direction and scared the young boy half to
death, throwing him out on the floor chasing him from the room). It was
by M. Fae Glasgow, in Oblaque V, I think.
Pat P
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:22:23 -0700
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks
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Alison Page wrote:
> I'd see Avon as extremely strong coffee
mmmmmmmmmmmmm bitter
> Dayna as Pepsi,
for those who think young
> and Tarrant as a tall glass of milk.
yes, disgustingly wholesome
> Gan as cocoa,
no, prune juice - more disgustingly wholesome still
> Cally as fizzy water
do you remember Fizzies? Drop a tablet into a glass of water, drink it
down, and become telepathically possessed
> Blake certainly remains a pint of Guinness
nothing else will do
> Jenna is whatever bored housewives drink in the afternoon
that would be wine coolers these days
> Soolin is pure cold vodka
brrrrrrrr I love this. perfect!
> and Vila.. well..
> Something under-rated and delicious.
lemonade: pastel, sweet on the surface but with a subtle tang of sour
sarcasm
Pat P
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:30:00 -0700
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis.
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Bill Billingsley wrote:
> Even with the change of actors, Travis's character certainly 'clams down'
> between his introduction as a psychotic commander who wipes out civillian
> populations, to the more docile, in-the-background Travis of Weapon,
> Pressure Point, etc.
Ah, but he had been reconditioned - and unlike impervious Vila, in
Travis' case it did take. He only refers to this once, and is unable to
express his feelings since the change: even his ability to express what
he had once been had been taken from him; supressed or lost.
However, I've never seen a fanfic story dealing with his new condition,
which I would expect to be a seething natural aggression and rage at
being turned into a puppy dog. No wonder he went bonkers. Imagine if he
could see down to his real self, yet be unable to express it; worse, to
have to watch himself be Servie's simpering lapdog.
And, of course, the conditioning included removal of his backbone
(that's why he's so much shorter in season 2)
Pat P
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:17:28 +0100
From: Andrew Spong <andrewspong@revolver.ndirect.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] FS: B7/DW etc Dreamwatch back-issues
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I've got a number of issues back-issues of Dreamwatch for sale from the
days before it turned into a glossy celebration of Hollywood onanists.
Those that I haven't already binned have at least one DW/B7/British SF
article in. I'm offering them at a rounded-up cover price (indicated) plus
UK P&P as follows:
1 magazine: 40p
additional magazine: 20p each
No. 9 (May 1995) - inc. speculation on TVM; Downtime; The Chase; B7 [�2]
No. 10 (June 1995) - inc. 4 page Season Seven review; also Department S, RD
[�2]
No. 11 (July 1995) - inc. 3 page interview with Sophie Aldred [�2]
No. 12 (Aug. 1995) - inc. 5 page Space 1999 item; also Edge of Darkness [�2]
No. 13 (Sep, 1995) - inc. 4 page Roger Delgado article; also ITC & nice B7
c/f [�2]
No. 14 (Oct. 1995) - inc. 3 page Sapphire & Steel; also Sally Knyvette int.
[�2.50]
No. 15 (Nov. 1995) - inc. Pyramids of Mars (4 pp.); Courtney; Hinchcliffe
[�2.50]
No. 16 (Dec. 1995) - inc. Prisoner retrospective (3 pp.); Barry Morse int.
[�2.50]
No. 17 (Jan. 1996) - inc. McCoy int. (3 pp.); Daleks' Master Plan (2 pp.)
[�2.50]
No. 18 (Feb. 1996) - inc. Paul McGann news piece (2 pp.); HHG (2 pp.) [�2.50]
No. 21 (May 1996) - inc. Gareth Thomas int. (3 pp.);McGann/TVM (5 pp)[�2.50]
No. 22 (June 1996) - inc. Philip Segal int. (3 pp.); Ed Bishop int. (2 pp.)
[�2.50]
No. 23 (July 1996) - inc. Jon Petwee obit. (2 pp.); Adam Adamant (2 pp.)
[�2.50]
No. 26 (Oct. 1996) - inc. Rob Grant (2 pp.); Day of the Triffids (3 pp.)
[�2.50]
No. 27 (Nov. 1996) - inc. 11 pp. Troughton tribute (inc.int. Hines/Padbury)
[�2.50]
No. 29 (Jan. 1997) - inc. D. Naylor, P. Davison, S. Sutton, Lucy Fleming
[�2.50]
No. 33 (May 1997) - inc. 3 page interview with Louise Jameson [�3]
No. 35 (July 1997) - inc. 5 p. interview with Michael Craze and Anneke
Wills [�3]
No. 36 (Aug. 1997) - inc. 3 page piece on Star Cops; also New Avengers [�3]
No. 37 (Sep. 1997) - inc. 4 page review of McCoy years by Kate Orman [�3]
No. 40 (Dec. 1997) - inc. 4 page Tom Baker item. [�3]
No. 41 (Jan. 1998) - inc. 7 page B7 20th anniversary retrospective. [�3]
No. 42 (Feb.1998) - inc. 7 page interview with Peter Davison. [�3]
No. 43 (Mar. 1998) - inc. 4 page item on Red Dwarf [�3]
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:32:17 +0930
From: "Ophelia" <ophelia@picknowl.com.au>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks
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I've been staying out of this, being
mostly abstentious myself - designer
herbalised soft drinks are my sin rather
than booze, so I honestly don't know
how most of these things taste. So I'll
stick to fizzy drinks...
Avon, being a computer nerd type,
would poison himself on that Jolt
rubbish. All that crankiness is simply
sugar and caffeine overload... Either
that or the Muhasi "Brain" blend to feed
those precious little grey cells.
>> Dayna as Pepsi,
>for those who think young
At least she has the good sense to
avoid Coke - that sticky sweetness is
better suited to Piri at her most
sugary. Tho' I've heard it's a generational
thing... Anyway, our amzonian vixen
definitely was a generation X grrl ahead
of her time - a real Girl Power go-getter.
Anyway, for Cally I'd suggest
Ambrosia (purified rainwater
with a dash of honey and healing
herbs.)
Tarrant - diet Coke.
Gan - creaming soda. Bright
red and super-sweet.
Blake - real brewed ginger beer,
full-bodied and sweet but with
complex depths.
Jenna - actually, Jenna reminds me of
one of the few boozes I do sip at
night-clubs, XLRate (not sure if I spelled
that right) - guarana and caffeine enhanced
alcoholic cola. Pure dark energy (for a long
night of dancing).
Pat suggested for Vila:
>lemonade: pastel, sweet on the surface but with a subtle tang of sour
>sarcasm
Hmm. Do you furriners drink Two Dogs?
(brewed alcoholic lemonade.) Just the right
long, cool, sweet, bitter, intoxicating draught
for when stocks of adrenaline-and-soma run
low.
Last but definitely not least, Soolin -
either extra-dry ginger ale or mineral
water, sparkling, clear, delicious and bitter.
- XXX Lindley
Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au
"The girl has beauty, virtue, wit,
Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck."
LONDON CALLING - a list to discuss Britcoms and knockwurst.
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2511/knockwurst.html
>Pat P
>
>
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:57:31 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Dreamwatch back issues
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Andrew,
I tried to send this off-list, but it bounced.
On Sat 13 Jun, Andrew Spong wrote:
> No. 21 (May 1996) - inc. Gareth Thomas int. (3 pp.);McGann/TVM (5 pp)[=A3=
2.50]
> No. 36 (Aug. 1997) - inc. 3 page piece on Star Cops; also New Avengers [=
=A33]
> No. 40 (Dec. 1997) - inc. 4 page Tom Baker item. [=A33] No. 41 (Jan. 1998=
) -
> inc.7 page B7 20th anniversary retrospective. [=A33]=20
Put me down for those ones.
I make that 80p. Where do I send the money or would you rather have 4 20p
stamps?
Judith
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:32:09 +0100 GMT
From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk
To: space-city@world.std.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space postponed
Message-Id: <698201366MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
Nelly said: "I like watching tennis but I HATE it when it is
interfering with my main interest. Please, what is the phone
number (of the BBC) so I can let them know ' they should not
ever do this (again)!!!'"
0171 240 3456 is the only number in my phone book and it is
the world service number. I rang that number and it is one big
internal phone system between all the bits, so they put me
throughto the TV complaints desk.
cheers
Steve Rogerson
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
RThe workers united will never be ignitedS
Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett
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