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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 192
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Fw: barley sugar
Re: [B7L] who died on GP *spoiler*
Re: [B7L] Fw: barley sugar
Re: [B7L] who died on GP *spoiler*
Re: [B7L] who died on GP *spoiler*
[B7L] Lost in Space
Re: [B7L] Fw: barley sugar
[B7L] -----Attention Homeowners, Mortgage Lender may owe you-----
[B7L] Secrets to Quick Financial Reversal
[B7L] Redemption zine library
Re: [B7L] who died on GP *spoiler*
[B7L] Eggs and Spam, Fritters and Spam, Beans and...
[B7L] Liberator in B5
[B7L] Spam
Re: [B7L] Lost in Space
[B7L] Lost in space
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:51:35 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Fw: barley sugar
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On Sun 12 Jul, Alison Page wrote:
> Well a few of the folks on the Iain Banks list are discussing B7 - thanks to
> Lost in Space.
>
> Thought you might be able to throw some light on this anecdote - anyone?
>
> > Here's a bit a B7 trivia for you instead. One of the actors (can't remember
> > his name now) used to wear a large, translucent, ring. This was actually a
> > barley sugar (the props department having failed to come up with anything
> > else that looked like what the director of the series wanted). I have it> on
> > good authority that whenever the actor concerned and the director fell out
> > over a scene the guy would eat the "stone" of his ring - necessitating
> > another trip to the sweet shop <G>.
The only person that I know of who had bad relations with one of the directors
was Brian Croucher (Travis 2). As Travis is the only charatcter I recall with a
large stone on his ring, the anecdote holds water at least that far, though I
must admit that I'm dubious overall.
Judith
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:06:10 -0500
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] who died on GP *spoiler*
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Roger the Shrubber wrote:
>The debate about who died on GP only continues because many fans do not
>accept Afterlife as canon. Perahps someone can explain why this is so.
Profic is not normally accepted as canon. It's just fanfic that somebody
managed to get licensed and paid for. "Afterlife" is no more canonical than
all the oodles of Trek profic novels. Which is just as well, considering
the book.
- Lisa
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:17:30 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk, Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Fw: barley sugar
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In a message dated 98-07-13 06:14:10 EDT, Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk writes:
<< The only person that I know of who had bad relations with one of the
directors
was Brian Croucher (Travis 2). As Travis is the only charatcter I recall
with a
large stone on his ring, the anecdote holds water at least that far, though I
must admit that I'm dubious overall.>>
This is pretty credible, since only Travis wore a ring on the show that could
be described as looking like rock candy, and because Croucher can be such a
total nutball (anyone who's seen him at some of the conventions will agree).
Leah
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:43:47 +0100
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Judith Proctor" <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>,
"Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] who died on GP *spoiler*
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> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> As far as I'm concerned, there're all dead. I saw them shot. The series
ended.
> They're dead. Pushing up dasies. Including Avon. Even if they were
stun
> shots, he'd still take enough to kill him.
Vila's the only survivor as far as I'm concerned - he definitely takes a
dive rather than getting hit and falling.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:42:32 +0100
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Roger the Shrubber" <powerplay@cheerful.com>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] who died on GP *spoiler*
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Roger the Shrubber wrote:
> The debate about who died on GP only continues because many fans do not
> accept Afterlife as canon. Perahps someone can explain why this is so.
Because it's amazingly badly-written crap that is a travesty of the series'
ethos?
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:56:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: Una McCormack <umm10@eng.cam.ac.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space
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Wasn't it a good programme? I was very impressed. I've found that when I
watch myself back on TV it's like watching someone *completely* different
(like hearing your voice on tape, only a thousand-fold). It was
interesting to have that level of objectivity put over it - like hearing
about fandom for the first time. Andrew Abbott did a great job.
I think he did a particularly excellent job with the choice of clips. One
thing I remember him saying was that he really had to limit the number of
episodes which he could take clips from on the grounds of expense. I
certainly wasn't expecting him to use as many as four! (Think I counted
that correctly - any takers?)
Yeah, we talked a fair bit about slash! What a fantastic edit that was!
Just enough for those in the know about slash to have a good snicker! ;)
Judith: you did really well; you didn't seem nervous at all. As Pita said,
you really communicated your enthusiasm.
Phone message from my brother over the weekend: 'You're *dead*! USED to
idolize me?!? You still should!' Some people are never happy... ;)
Una
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:15:51 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Fw: barley sugar
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> This is pretty credible, since only Travis wore a ring on the show that
could
> be described as looking like rock candy, and because Croucher can be such
a
> total nutball (anyone who's seen him at some of the conventions will
agree).
>
> Leah
Yes I've since heard more and it was Brian, who used to drink in the same
pub as someone on the IMB list. Another tasty snippet is that in the pub
(The Chandos in Forest Hill apparently) he was known by the regulars as
'the scourge of the universe' I don't know if this is with reference to his
role or his personality.
Alison
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To: IIIIIOOOOO@mail-gw1adm.rcsntx.swbell.net
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To: IIIIIOOOOO@mail-gw4adm.rcsntx.swbell.net
Subject: [B7L] Secrets to Quick Financial Reversal
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:46:55 +0000 (GMT)
From: Una McCormack <umm10@eng.cam.ac.uk>
To: Space City <space-city@world.std.com>
cc: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Redemption zine library
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Hi all,
This is just a general call to ask if people would be willing to lend
their zines to the zine library at Redemption, which I have agreed to help
organize. Here are some general rules we have about the library which will
hopefully set your mind at rest in terms of protecting zines from loss,
damage, theft, etc.
- The zine library will only be open when a steward is available.
- Readers will be asked to leave any bags with the steward at the door.
- No zines may be taken out of the library.
- No food and drink in the library.
- I shall be lending my own collection of very rare 1980s zines so I have
a vested interest in making sure every zine in the library is
*extremely* well-cared for!!
If you would like to loan any zines to the library, send me an e-mail
(address above) and I'll give you the finer detail of how we're going
about it.
Look forward to hearing from you,
Una McCormack
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:40:44 +0100
From: Julia Jones <julia.jones@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] who died on GP *spoiler*
Message-ID: <giTfwPAcakq1Ew6y@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <199807131447.OAA11239@axis.jeack.com.au>, Roger the Shrubber
<powerplay@cheerful.com> writes
>The debate about who died on GP only continues because many fans do not
>accept Afterlife as canon. Perahps someone can explain why this is so.
>
Why on earth *should* we consider it to be part of canon, any more than
any other piece of fanfic is? I can't say 'badly written fanfic', since
I haven't read it myself.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:00:43 PDT
From: "Edith Spencer" <sueno45@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Eggs and Spam, Fritters and Spam, Beans and...
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Hello to all.
I have been quite busy this week, with a new job and all, so I did
not get to put in my two cents worth. But I have read all of your
responses; all of you are quite thoughtful and thorough in your posts.
It is such a pleasure to read them.
However, in going through the mail, imagine my suprise at the
advertisements that were included. Since I use Hotmail (to avoid being
stalked) i am used to the little advertisements that flag on- it is
usually stuff I would buy. But weird moneymaking schemes(!)What next?
Pictures of girls who are "Barely Legal"? Alien phone numbers?
Ok, it was a bit off topic, so here is an ob7 reference question: What
would Avon do to spammers? Would Viula participate in sending Spam?
Would blake send his message through spamming?
Edith :)
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:48:49 +0100
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Liberator in B5
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I was just catching up on my B5 watching, and noticed something rather
interesting in the episode Phoenix Rising.
Watch the scene with the flashback to <spoiler>'s StarFuries blasting a
transport - the transport is a different mix of colours, but clearly the
Liberator's main hull. The green ball is missing, but the pylons for the
neutron blasters are still there (but in this case serving purely as wings-
there are no weapon pods)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:03:00 +0100
From: "Taylor, Steve [MIS]" <S.Taylor@lmu.ac.uk>
To: blakes7 <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Spam
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Three today - it looks like someone has got us on a bulk spamshot!
Sorry Calle - you might have to make it a closed list after all - what a
pain.
SteveT
PS - Lost in Space - it has all been said really - but - great!
I particularly like the comments at the end (can't remember who) -
'Blake's 7 has given me lots of conversationns with really intelligent
people' - 'oh I wish I had thought of that - I was going to say Avon is
really cute':-))
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:11:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Lost in Space
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On Mon 13 Jul, Una McCormack wrote:
> I think he did a particularly excellent job with the choice of clips. One
> thing I remember him saying was that he really had to limit the number of
> episodes which he could take clips from on the grounds of expense. I
> certainly wasn't expecting him to use as many as four! (Think I counted
> that correctly - any takers?)
I guess that may answer a question that I was wondering about. I wondered if
the cast would get any payments from the clips - presumably they do.
>
> Yeah, we talked a fair bit about slash! What a fantastic edit that was!
> Just enough for those in the know about slash to have a good snicker! ;)
Very cleverly done.
>
> Judith: you did really well; you didn't seem nervous at all. As Pita said,
> you really communicated your enthusiasm.
Maybe it takes me to recognise my own signs of nerves. I can hear it in my
voice. But then my voice got a lot lower due to all the problems I had with it.
I guess nerves just raise it to a pitch that sounds normal to the rest of the
world <grin>.
Judith
PS. I got recognised by the postman this morning. Disconcerting.
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Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:45:29 +-200
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: "'Blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Lost in space
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It was fun to see some faces to go with the names at last. Especially =
Una looked very different from what I had imagined. And I became =
increasingly jealous of Judith, every time I saw that absolutely =
beautiful drawing of Cally on her wall. I hope you'll sell copies at =
redemption!
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