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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 211

Today's Topics:
	 Temperatures in Space
	 [B7L] Welsh translation
	 [B7L] Silent Witness
	 Re: [B7L] Silent Witness
	 Re: [B7L] Silent Witness
	 [B7L] 41st Sector review
	 Re: [B7L] Welsh translation
	 [B7L] Redemption
	 [B7L] Confused, and possibly naive

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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 10:15:11 +1000
From: "Taina Nieminen" <taina@netspace.net.au>
To: "B7 List" <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Temperatures in Space
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I mentioned the recent posts about temperatures in space to my brother,
who's an astrophysicist by training. He adds the following information:

A true vacuum has no temperature, but space is not a true vacuum. It has a
small amount of matter, and field radiation. So, if you're a long way from a
star, you can assume that the temperature is actually 3 kelvin (the average
temperature of the universe). This is, as was said, bloody cold.

A human body teleported into space has a temperature of about 300 kelvin, so
it will begin to lose heat to the surroundings. Three ways in which heat
could be lost is through conduction, radiation and evaporation. Conduction
is the reason people's body temperature drops extremely rapidly if they fall
into very cold water, for example. But because space has very little matter,
there is no loss of heat this way.

The human body radiates heat very slowly, so it will take a long time to die
from hypothermia through this mechanism.

An unprotected human body in space will lose heat fairly quickly through
evaporation (sweating), but a space suit will stop evaporation taking place,
explaining why space suits do not need powerful heaters to stop the occupant
dying from the cold.

I watched Space Fall the other night, and was pleased to note that Raiker
did not explode when the Liberator pulled away from the transfer tube, but
floated out into space.

Taina

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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 09:29:29 +0100
From: Russ Massey <russ@wriding.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Welsh translation
Message-ID: <NzunNBAp3Vz1EwHu@wriding.demon.co.uk>

Not particularly on topic or anything, but does anyone know the Welsh for "I
love you"? I suppose I could claim it's needed for a Morgan/B7 crossover
story, but there's actually a real world application foremost in my mind :)
-- 
Russ Massey

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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 21:41:50 +1000
From: Tim Richards & Narrelle Harris <parallax@wire.net.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Silent Witness
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I saw the ad for Silent Witness (yes, the ABC does a 'Double Bill' ad for
Dalziel and Pascoe and SW, and it gets a bit confusing).

I think it was a guest appearance.  She played a DI controlling a deep
cover cop working against drug pushers - and she let things go too far.
Her voice has deepened a little, her hair is longer but scraped back in a
bun and her acting has improved considerably.  I loved her character, Jo,
dressing down two battered informants who'd failed her and saying: "You are
bleeding on my carpet" in a very Servalan-esque tone!  

Wish I'd seen the first half of the story...
Narrelle Harris

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 but some of us are looking at the stars."  - Oscar Wilde
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 22:35:09 +1000
From: vera@c031.aone.net.au
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Silent Witness
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Narrelle wrote:

>bun and her acting has improved considerably.  I loved her character, Jo,
>dressing down two battered informants who'd failed her and saying: "You are
>bleeding on my carpet" in a very Servalan-esque tone!  

That line gave me a thrill! She looks too young to be herself. I mean, I
didn't realise she was so very young when she played Dayna. 

Can just imagine her playing an embittered old rebel leader, worn down by
20 years of struggle and still keen to seperate Servalan and her head. 

Malissa

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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:21:55 +0100
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Silent Witness
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In message <3.0.1.32.19980809214150.007b1100@wire.net.au>, Tim Richards
& Narrelle Harris <parallax@wire.net.au> writes
>I think it was a guest appearance.  

It was.
-- 
Julia Jones

"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
        The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.

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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 17:43:22 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Space City <space-city@world.std.com>, Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] 41st Sector review
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A new non-fiction zine called 41st Sector has been introduced in the UK
covering Blake's 7 and Dr Who. It is the one advertised in the
classifieds at the back of SFX 42 (September). It costs two pounds
including postage payable to Gavin M Rymill, 41 Eaton Road, West Kirby,
Wirral L48 3HE, UK. I don't know about overseas rates but his email
address is rymill@zetnet.co.uk

Review
41st Sector, issue one, edited by Gavin M Rymill

General, though on the thin side (22 A4 pages not including cover) it
has some good illustrations and interesting articles. Some of the
illustrations are Gavin's own computer generated images and are worth a
look. Also at only two pound it is good value for money.

In The Beginning - Gavin M Rymill
Gavin explains how he got into Blake's 7 (Star One was the first episode
he saw and it includes a review of the episode). He also explains why
having watched them all he considers the third and fourth season to be
the best.

Technology Fact & Fiction - Gavin M Rymill
Interesting piece on how far away we are from achieving the technology
shown within Blake's 7. He believes that teleporting will never happen
but says "by the time ships like the Liberator are flying through space,
I guarantee you will be able to clip computers like Orac to your lapel."

Dr Who: The Blunder Years - anonymous (but probably Gavin again)
A look at where Dr Who went wrong. He believes the problems started with
Davison's Doctor but were the fault of John Nathan-Turner.

Redemption 99 - anonymous (but by me)
An article about what we are planning at Redemption next year

Doodling over the Federation: Blake's 7 Fan Fiction - John Hulme
Discussion about fan fiction including references to slash. Lacks depth
sadly.

Untelevised Travels - Gavin M Rymill
Speculation over discontinuities between Troughton and Pertwee, focusing
on possibility that the gap between the last televised Troughton and the
first Pertwee may have been a lot longer and that Ton Baker and the
second Romana period may have lasted for about 100 years.

Hurray for the Bug-Eyed Monster - John Hulme
Do we want our Dr Who monsters to be subtle or in your face? Hulme
argues for in your face.

In Memory Alone  - anonymous (but it reads like Gavin's stuff)
A look at what the author considers were Blake's 7's finest moments -
Orbit and Terminal,
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson

Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars

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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 18:13:10 +0100 (BST)
From: wshield@netcomuk.co.uk
To: russ@wriding.demon.co.uk
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Welsh translation
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Hmmm, my Welsh isn't what it was, but 'I love you' roughly translates as 'Rydw I'n dy garu du'. 
Add a 'Cariad' (dear/love) to the end for optimum effect :-)

Hope this helps

Phil J

On 08/09/98 09:29:29 you wrote:
>
>Not particularly on topic or anything, but does anyone know the Welsh for "I
>love you"? I suppose I could claim it's needed for a Morgan/B7 crossover
>story, but there's actually a real world application foremost in my mind :)
>-- 
>Russ Massey
>
>
>



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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 19:14:48 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Redemption
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I'm still off list at the moment - teaching my beloved son about covalent and
ionic bonding today - but I thought I'd better post a brief note as the
Redemption membership rate rises at the end of this month.

Owing to illness, Sarah has had to give up her position of membership secretary
for the convention.  The job has been taken over by Ruth Saunders.  When sending
in your registration, please send the forms to Ruth Saunders, 10 Loxley
Hall, 48 Kingswood Rd, Leytonstone, London, E11 1SG.

Forms sent to the old address will be forwarded, but you'll get a much faster
response if you remember to send them to Ruth.

Membership is 35 pounds until 1 September and 40 pounds after that date. 
Anyone wishing to pay in foreign (US or Australia) currency should contact me
for details of how to pay.

Judith

-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7

Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 23:39:05 PDT
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Confused, and possibly naive
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Hello all.

Just a question, aimed more at the writers, I suppose, but anyone who 
wants to answer, go ahead.

I'm under the impression that "purple prose" involves lots of 
adjectives, high-falutin' phraseology, and lots of other over-the-top 
stuff that experienced writers aren't supposed to touch with a bargepole 
of any size. So you can imagine my surprise when I visited "Orac" 's 
site, found a page marked "Purple Prose" and found that most of the 
stuff seemed to be slash. 

This would be alright if I had any interest in that form of fan fiction, 
but I don't. Just a personal preference not to read it if I can avoid 
it. If there was a warning, I must have missed it. I quite understand 
that a writers' site specialising in fan fiction must deal with the 
topic, because there are many who, unlike me, love reading and\or 
writing slash stories, as is their right. The thing is, I wouldn't have 
gone anywhere near that part of the sight if I'd known about the 
content.

So, after all that, the question is: what is the definition of "purple 
prose"; and if it does involve writing of a slash-related nature, when 
did that happen? Well, yes, it is more like two questions than one. 

I remain as the subject line says,
Regards
Joanne

Precedent: A trick which has been tried before, successfully.
--Miles Kington, "A Simple Glossary of Legal Terms", The Punch Book of 
Crime. 

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