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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 226

Today's Topics:
	 Re: [B7L] Re:  Avon Without Guilt
	 Re: [B7L]  "Avon-like" natures
	 Re: [B7L] PNW Alert! - Neverwhere
	 Re: [B7L]  "Avon-like" natures
	 Re: [B7L] Re: responses of an "Avon-like" nature
	 Re: [B7L] A damn good guess
	 [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 Re: [B7L]  "Avon-like" natures
	 [B7L] REMOVE
	 [B7L] Countdown
	 RE: [B7L] The Crucible
	 Re: [B7L] 
	 Re: [B7L] 
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
	 [B7L] ATTN. Sarah Thompson
	 [B7L] The Crucible
	 Re: [B7L] Countdown
	 [B7L] Just What the World Needs . . .

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:19:22 -0700
From: Jay <jmcguiga@succeed.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re:  Avon Without Guilt
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Sarah T. wrote:

>(I gather that newer Avon fans have been getting some of the same sort of
>crap, only in private e-mail.  I'm sorry to hear it.  Maybe it's time to
>induct some new members into AWG.)

I haven't received any nasty emails re: Avon, though I haven't been around
for a while.  I would like to be considered for induction into AWG.  Can I
please!?!  Sounds like a wonderful organization.

Jay
100%Avon
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In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, 
and much more difficult to find...-- Terry Pratchett's "Sourcery"

Visit Sharpe's Seven (a Sean Bean and Blake's 7 site)
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/3612
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:19:40 -0700
From: Jay <jmcguiga@succeed.net>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L]  "Avon-like" natures
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Donna wrote:
>
>Maybe that's a good place to redirect our energies.  Which character on B7
>most accurately reflects everyone's personality?  

Mmmm,  I think I'm a cross between Avon, Cally and Vila.  I hate having the
responsibility of organizing or leading events, but will bitch and moan
about the person doing the organizing.  I also tend to suppress my
emotions, I'm often uncomfortable with letting anyone know how I really
feel.  Cally comes out in me in that I'm a good listener and friends tend
to confide in me (much to my irritation sometimes).  And the Vila is that
I'm a basically nice person and I just want to get on with my life without
anyone bothering me.

Jay
100% Avon


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In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, 
and much more difficult to find...-- Terry Pratchett's "Sourcery"

Visit Sharpe's Seven (a Sean Bean and Blake's 7 site)
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/3612
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:54:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claudia Marie  <cmarie@tiac.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] PNW Alert! - Neverwhere
Message-Id: <199808311854.OAA08760@shell1.tiac.net>

Pardon me if this has already been said, I'm on the digest these days.

"Kim F. Holec" <deidre@america.net> wrote:
: When we saw Neil Gamian at a con a few years back, he brought a rough-cut
: version of the first episode. It was quite good, even without fx and music,
: and proper editing. You folks in Seattle are quite lucky to see this! I
: believe Neil said there were six episodes. There are two novels or
: novelizations; one is the American version from Avon Books, with American
: language usage instead of British [why they felt the need for this, I have
: no clue :) ] ; and a UK edition--I will find out the publishers if you
: like, or you can check out the newsgroup alt.fan.neil-gaiman  and look for
: a pointer to the FAQ.

I managed to see a copy of a copy of Neverwhere from the last time it
aired (also in Seattle, I believe) and quite liked it.  Neil Gaiman
spoke with Tyler, the owner of the bookstore I work at, recently, and
Tyler said Gaiman recommended the American version to him.  The American
version was done for the reason of explaining London-area references that
aren't well-known this side of the pond, but since it was being done,
Gaiman decided to give it a proper editing, which he says he was too
rushed to do for the original edition.

Claudia

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:47:45 EDT
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L]  "Avon-like" natures
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Of all the B7 characters, I think I am most like Cally.  I really worry about
others (sort of a mother-of-the-whole-world complex) and am very empathetic.
However, I can fight for what I believe in fiercely if need be.  What a great
question!  Thanks.

I'd like to join the Avon Without Guilt gang, also!  What are the
requirements??  Undying devotion to Avon?  Well, then I qualify.

Gail Gawlik

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:19:51 +0100
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: responses of an "Avon-like" nature
Message-ID: <85tVUKA3st61EwpW@jajones.demon.co.uk>

In message <199808302020_MC2-57D4-E639@compuserve.com>, Harriet
Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes
>Getting Calle to sit still for a photo at all was a major achievement.
>
He was too tired to run away - a couple of days of conversations in
nothing but his second language had seen to that...

-- 
Julia Jones

"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
        The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:43:15 EDT
From: ShilLance@aol.com
To: j_macqueen@hotmail.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] A damn good guess
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In a message dated 98-08-30 23:53:36 EDT, j_macqueen@hotmail.com writes:

<< I hope Gwynn suggesting that he's not unlike Tarrant means that he isn't 
 far too pretty for his own good >>

Well my wife thinks I'm tall, dark, and handsome.........

Gwynn

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:59:58 PDT
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
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Hello everyone, and Carol McCoy in particular.

>No, just kidding.  I consider your ability to recognize that Tarrant is
>"far too pretty for his own good" to be a good thing.

Dear Carol, you are being far too nice to me. How am I going to cure any 
lurking tendencies toward provoking reactions out of the Tarrant Nostra 
if you react so well? <smile>

Regards
Allergic to toothy grins

It is impossible to enjoy idling thoroughly unless one has plenty of 
work to do.
-- Jerome K. Jerome

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:18:07 EDT
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L]  "Avon-like" natures
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According to the Meyers-Briggs test, I'm an INFP like Cally, although when I'm
at my worst I think I am very Avonish.
            Tiger M 

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:51:33 -0400
From: Mod Chip <modchip@mindspring.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] REMOVE
Message-Id: <199809010050.UAA27054@dewdrop2.mindspring.com>
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REMOVE

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:45:40 -0700
From: "Adam L. Fuller" <adfuller@ix.netcom.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Countdown
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980831214537.006b9eb4@ix.netcom.com>
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Hi everyone,

This has probably been discussed before, but there is one problem in
particular that has been bothering me for years about "Countdown," even
though I consider one of my favorite episodes. First of all, the digital
countdown device was only counting down 1000 seconds, even though they said
it was a few hours long until detonation. Like anything else on Blake's 7,
you have to look past that technical discepancy and use your imagination to
assume that the digital device was counting down from a much higher number.
But I just don't understand how the BBC can make such a foolish mistake!

Also, one thing I realized after watching that episode today for the tenth
or so time, the Albian computer expert at the beginning did in fact help to
dismantle the device when he tried to detonate the bomb and only made it
hiccup for one second. It was actually that one extra second that he
managed to give them that gave Avon the one extra second he needed at the
end to insert the last rod and detonate the bomb. I've never really thought
about that until today.

-Adam L. Fuller

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:22:57 +0100
From: Robinson Paula <Paula.Robinson@RCN.ORG.UK>
To: "'Lysator List'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "'Space City'" <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: RE: [B7L] The Crucible
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Judith - yes I'll be there on 19th, and so will Steve - we've already
got tickets, and like you we went for the �17 ones. Sorry, hope I
haven't messed up chances of a discount by going it alone, I obviously
didn't read the information at the box office very efficiently or I
should have spotted that - I was just passing, so I got them on the
spot. 

I have to admit to having Local Knowledge as I live in Bromley, so if
people (however many, however few) want to meet up somewhere for a drink
first, I'm sure I can find somewhere appropriate.

Paula Robinson

>----------
>From: 	Judith Proctor[SMTP:Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk]
>Sent: 	31 August 1998 18:29
>To: 	Lysator List
>Cc: 	Space City
>Subject: 	[B7L] The Crucible
>
>Having got back from holiday (we took a narrowboat around the Avon ring -
>stopping off in Stratford Upon Avon for an afternoon to trawl the Royal
>Shakespeare Company archives for new photos of Gareth Thomas) I figure it's
>about time that I tried to organise a theatre group.
>
>Who else wants to come and see The Crucible in Bromley?  Quite apart from
>Gareth
>being in it, it's supposed to be a damn good play in its own right.
>
>If we get a group of ten or more people, there's a ten percent discount.
>
>I've made an arbitary choice of date for Saturday 19 September on the grounds
>that Saturdays are the only days I can get to Bromley.
>
>The theatre is the Churchill theatre in Bromley.  The play starts at 7.45 and
>tickets cost 17, 16 or 12 pounds depending on where your seat is.
>
>Seeing as I'm travelling from Dorset to Bromley, I figure I might as well get
>the 17 pound ticket - this is my Christmas present from last Xmas.
>
>If you want to come, let me know what type of ticket you want and if we end
>up
>with ten or more, I'll book us as a group.
>
>If there's enough of us, maybe we could meet up somewhere before the show and
>have a drink together.
>
>Judith
>
>-- 
>http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
>
>Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
>26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
>http://www.smof.com/redemption/
>
>

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 04:08:26 PDT
From: "Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, DCsquared@aol.com
Subject: Re: [B7L] 
Message-ID: <19980901110827.15425.qmail@hotmail.com>
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>Which character on B7 most accurately reflects everyone's >personality?


Blake.  Though both Soolin and Servalan strike certain resonant chords.  

Coincidentally, these are also my favourite B7 characters, with Gan, Zen 
and Vila not far behind.

-- Rob

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 04:39:09 PDT
From: "Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, ay648@yfn.ysu.edu
Subject: Re: [B7L] 
Message-ID: <19980901113910.6268.qmail@hotmail.com>
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I've been very tediously involved in the dreaded RL for the past few 
weeks.  The blasted thing would be abolished if I had anything to do 
with it.  

Nevertheless, as soon as I'm on top of it all, I'll return to some of 
the more engaging topics we were discussing a couple of months ago.  In 
the mean time, here's a bit of gratuitous Tarrant bashing:  (I won't be 
back to look at the list for another ten days, so the TN have got plenty 
of time to retaliate, or to cast the provocation aside in imprudent 
contempt).


=====================================================================


>What a sweet observation about Tarrant.  Sometimes I think it boils
>down to his very niceness irritating people.  

Yes, I'd tend to agree with that.  Nice, drippy, dopey types like our 
Del have never particularly appealed to me.

>And many of us like him exactly as he was written.  

Mmm.  Many of us like peanut butter, banana and anchovy sandwiches as 
well.  It takes all sorts...

>Gwynn, it's great to find a rare, male Tarrant fan. You have 
>good taste!

Yes.  Good taste in drippy, dopey, sentimental simpletons.  With "wild 
dandelion" haircuts.  (Not my choice of words).

That's all for now.  I'd better go and do something more constructive.

Cheerio,
Rob




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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:49:57 -0400
From: ay648@yfn.ysu.edu (Carol A. McCoy)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
Message-ID: <199809011349.JAA18514@yfn.ysu.edu>

Joanne wrote:

>Dear Carol, you are being far too nice to me. How am I going to cure any 
>lurking tendencies toward provoking reactions out of the Tarrant Nostra 
>if you react so well? <smile>

You could just give up and join the Tarrant Nostra.  Become one of
the in crowd. ;-)

>Allergic to toothy grins

There are treatments for that.  <g>

Seriously, there are many fans who have come to appreciate Tarrant
over time.  I think it's a matter of walking in his shoes and
trying to understand why he does things.  He's not a malicious
person.  His flaws are basically those of youth, and they are
far outweighed by his virtures.  If nothing else, consider that
Avon came to depend on him and even to care about him.  And
we know Avon is never wrong. :)

Carol Mc

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:43:04 EDT
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting
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    I agree with Carol.  If you watch the episode "Blake", look at Avon's face
as he realizes that Tarrant is going to have to stay aboard the crashing
Scorpio.  Of all the characters, he strikes me as the most straightforward and
least likely to stab someone in the back.  His crewmates know where they stand
with him, something that is not true of Avon or even Blake.

Tiger M  

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:39:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: hill susan a <adairh@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
To: blakes 7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] ATTN. Sarah Thompson
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I'm sorry to send this to the whole list, but All my mail was deleted by
the cruel system admins.  ( I only had over 1000 messages in the queue.)
Therefore I lost the URL for the B. Holland page that Sarah kindly posted,
and Sarah's address as well.  Could you please send me that URL, Sarah?
I've done web searches, but don't seem to find it.

Thank you

Susan Adair

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:20:15 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] The Crucible
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Steve,

Where do you and Paula think is the best place to meet up?  I don't know Bromley
at all, so somewhere close to the theatre is best to reduce the chances of me
getting lost.

Judith
-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7

Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 07:31:59 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Countdown
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On Tue 01 Sep, Adam L. Fuller wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> This has probably been discussed before, but there is one problem in
> particular that has been bothering me for years about "Countdown," even
> though I consider one of my favorite episodes. First of all, the digital
> countdown device was only counting down 1000 seconds, even though they said
> it was a few hours long until detonation. Like anything else on Blake's 7,
> you have to look past that technical discepancy and use your imagination to
> assume that the digital device was counting down from a much higher number.
> But I just don't understand how the BBC can make such a foolish mistake!

Was the device actually counting in seconds?  Towards the end, they seem like
awfully long seconds.

Judith

-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7

Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 11:58:11 -0700
From: "Jim Bartlett" <jimbart@my-dejanews.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Just What the World Needs . . .
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I've just stumbled across another Blake's 7 Web site. I've checked this month's digests and I can't find any mention of it, so here goes. It's at http://www.blakes7.com (10 out of 10 for registering that domain !), and is run by four ex-Birmingham students named Jason, Martin, Ewen and John. Looks very promising.

Cheers,  Jim Bartlett


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