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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 237
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Re: The Crucible
[B7L] Stephen Greif
Re: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting/raining cats & dogs
[B7L] Raining cats and dogs (and now for the poodle)
[B7L] B7 episode titles
[B7L] Raining cats and dogs (and now for the poodle)
[B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
Re: [B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
Re: [B7L] B7 episode titles
Re: [B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
Re: [B7L] Raining cats and dogs (and now for geese)
[B7L] Weasel words
RE: [B7L] Tarrant Nostra baiting/raining cats & dogs
Re: [B7L] Ahah! So that's what the teeth are for...
Re: [B7L] Ahah! So that's what the teeth are for...
Re: [B7L] Ahah! So that's what the teeth are for...
[B7L] Silly season stuff and Blake stuff
Re: [B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
Re: [B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:33:42 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: space-city@world.std.com
Subject: [B7L] Re: The Crucible
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Paula has checked it out and confirmed that the pub is called the
Partridge. What time do people think we should meet.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:43:28 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Stephen Greif
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I just spotted Stephen Greif looking very dashing in a Kenco coffee advert.
Judith
--
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Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:43:41 +1000
From: "Taina Nieminen" <taina@netspace.net.au>
To: "B7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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>> (Nor am I any too certain about Blake being a dog person.)
>
>Loyalty and devotion are dog traits, so Blake's a bit maverick for a dog
>really. But I think he'd admire the traits in dogs as pets, although he
>himself is probably more of a cat.
>
>Jenni
>
>
Blake is the alpha dog, so he seems maverick for a dog generally, but only
for follower dogs. He's very much the leader dog.
Taina
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:40:04 PDT
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Raining cats and dogs (and now for the poodle)
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Hello everyone.
Oh, I agree that Vila is a doggy sort of person, but I prefer thinking
of him as a beagle, as in the Wortham/Rosenthal story "A Furry Tale".
Have to reread that one now, particularly as I cannot remember what sort
of black cat Avon was changed into for the story (or even if any breed
was mentioned at all), and especially because thinking of beagles at all
was a bit painful at the time I read it.
I like cats and dogs in general (it's geese I hate), and I like Avon
and, since owning a number of the videos, Blake. Is there anyone else
willing to admit to being a cat AND a dog person at the same time?
Regards, particularly to Lord Rob Lucan
Joanne
"It is always entertaining to listen to an indiscretion," said Finbow
blandly.
--C P Snow, "Death Under Sail"
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:17:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: brent@ntr.net
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] B7 episode titles
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I have just completed a novel, which is not fan fic or anything. In fact,
it really has nothing to do with Blake's 7 at all except for the chapter
titles, which is why I thought I would mention it here.
They are as follows:
One: Voice from the Past
Two: Deliverance
Three: The Keeper
Four: Animals
Five: Duel
Six: The Harvest (couldn't get "of Kairos" to fit, though Kairos does
become the name of a new constellation later in the novel)
Seven: Ultraworld
Eight: Shadow
Interlude One: City at the Edge of the World
Nine: Dawn (again, "of the Gods" wouldn't quite fit, though two characters
refer to themselves as gods throughout the novel)
Ten: Power
Eleven: Breakdown
Twelve: Destiny
Thirteen: Sand
Fourteen: The Way Back
Fifteen: Gambit
Sixteen: Trial
Interlude Two: Weapon
Seventeen: Rescue
Eighteen: The Web
Nineteen: Pressure Point
Twenty: Star One
Twenty-one: Hostage
Twenty-two: Countdown
Twenty-three: Rumours of Death
Interlude Three: Orbit
Twenty-four: Gold
Twenty-five: Killer
Twenty-six: Assassin
Twenty-seven: Horizon
Twenty-eight: Terminal
Twenty-nine: Aftermath
And the title of the book is most likely going to be Redemption
(Incidentally, it is 618 pages, @140,000 words). Each chapter title does
directly relate to something happening in its chapter, though some chapters
are harder to pinpoint than others (The Way Back chief among those).
Sometimes I spelled it out with a mention of the actual title in dialogue or
situation while in others, I left it to the reader's imagination.
Other B7 parallels are two characters with the last name of Blake and the
fact that a major character disappears halfway through the book, only to
turn up towards the end, pointing a gun at the other main character. . .
Anyway, I thought I would share these connections with the list since I put
so much effort into making the chapters and titles match. Now back to our
regularly scheduled B7 chatter. . .
Brent
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:50:08 EDT
From: SuzanThoms@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Raining cats and dogs (and now for the poodle)
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<<Joane wrote:
<< I like cats and dogs in general (it's geese I hate), and I like Avon
<<and, since owning a number of the videos, Blake. Is there anyone
<<else willing to admit to being a cat AND a dog person at the same
<<time?
I'm a dog and cat person. Three cats and two dogs share our household.
I'm also an Avon person. Unfortunately, I can't find one to share our
household.
Suzanne
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:20:05 +0100
From: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
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G. Robbins wrote:
> I wish I was in Great Britain so I could get copies of the
> videocassettes...it is so hard to find any here on retail in the US.
> However, I was told once that videotape format in the UK is different than
> the States, so that wouldn't help me anyway. ARGH!
It does seem very strange the we in the UK can buy very cheapo video
recorders that play both PAL & NTSC (the cheapest one so far was 130
pounds =approx 200 dollars). Where as it seems (from correspondence in
the past) that the US VCR manufacturers have not heard of PAL.
Would it not be worth picking up one of our cheapish VCRs on a visit
over here, for use over there?
Just a thought.
Jackie
(who has actually found time to read some messages!!)
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Date: 14 Sep 1998 10:42:45 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
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Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk> writes:
> Would it not be worth picking up one of our cheapish VCRs on a visit
> over here, for use over there?
Probably wouldn't work. VCRs over here generate PAL out (or fake-PAL,
in case of VCRs playing NTSC tapes), TV sets in the US want to hear
NTSC. One could get a PAL TV set at the same time as the VCR, I guess,
but then one gets to have fun with 110V/230V 60Hz/50Hz electricity instead.
--
Calle Dybedahl, UNIX Sysadmin
qdtcall@esavionics.se http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:55:40 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Brent, that's great about the book -
Let us know how you get on with it
Alison
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:19:48 -0500
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
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Jackie wrote:
>Would it not be worth picking up one of our cheapish VCRs on a visit
>over here, for use over there?
As Calle said, both the output signal and the power requirements would
cause problems. (There are voltage converters, but they're usually intended
for appliances drawing less power.)
A USAn wanting to play PAL tapes would be best off saving up and buying the
Aiwa multi-format VCR (around $500), which will play and record in either
NTSC or PAL. It automatically detects the format of a tape being played.
while the recording format and the output signal type are user-selectable.
Nice little machine, well worth the search and the investment if you're
going to be messing with PAL tapes a lot in the US.
- Lisa
_____________________________________________________________
Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@ti.com
Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/
New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:06:14 EDT
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Raining cats and dogs (and now for geese)
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Joanne said:
<< I like cats and dogs in general (it's geese I hate), and I like Avon
and, since owning a number of the videos, Blake. Is there anyone else
willing to admit to being a cat AND a dog person at the same time? >>
Yes, that describes me pretty well. I am a major Avon fan and like both cats
and dogs (although I still prefer cats to a small degree) and hate geese and
Blake. Maybe the hating geese is significant?
Gail
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:42:31 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Weasel words
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Well my favourite animals are the weasel family - the Mustelidae. Forget
cat and dog people - these are weasel people.
Blake is of course, the largest of the mustelidae - the Badger. Here is
what is says about them in my encyclopedia: 'The largest, with strong legs,
coarse hair on the body, and a black and white striped head.' The
resemblance is uncanny.
Servalan by contrast is of course the Mink - vicious little beasts, but
always well turned out.
Travis the Wolverine.
Dayna the beautiful Sable.
Vila is of course the Ferret - the very word gives it away. Plus ferrets
are very working class, and the only one of the group you would actually
want as a pet. Plus they can give you a nasty nip.
The Stoat, which is reputed to have a mesmerising effect on its prey, would
be Cally.
Avon a Weasel.
As for Tarrant - I would call him the Pine Marten. In the words of John
Clare 'the marten cat, long shagged, of courage good'
Alison (just finished a 2-month project an hour ago and therefore demob
happy)
PS I haven't assigned the skunk, otter or polecat - any ideas?
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:14:46 +-200
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: "blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Yes, there is. I'm still boggling at how anyone could class Vila as a *cat*
person.
[Jacqueline Thijsen] Easy: he's unreliable, lazy, prone to falling asleep in the most unlikely places, and totally adorable despite those qualities. My sister has a cat just like him.
(Nor am I any too certain about Blake being a dog person.)
[Jacqueline Thijsen] He can't be a cat person, he's too much of a group person. But he's definitely the top dog.
Which brings me to something that occurred to me last weekend: the people I respect in B7 are all cat persons (except Blake). I like the rest of them, but I can't feel any respect for them. I think Blake is the exception because he has such a strong personality.
Bye,
Jacqueline
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:55:15 +0100
From: "fifitrix" <fifitrix@dial.pipex.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Ahah! So that's what the teeth are for...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Clother <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com>
<snip>
>Let's see. I'm due to get my legs broken by the TN, my arms broken by
>Avon's fans (silly buggers that they are), and now the Blake fraternity
>are after me as well.
be afraid......BE VERY AFRAID!!!!
(legs?....legs?......I'm sure it wasn't his legs we were going to
break.............I thought it was another part of his anatomy that also
come in pairs.........<g>)
fifitrix
xxx
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:17:24 +0100
From: "fifitrix" <fifitrix@dial.pipex.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Ahah! So that's what the teeth are for...
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The godmother wrote:
>Well, we could give the old horse's head in the bed a try. <g>
>
>Carol Mc
>
can I ? Can I ? can I? CAN I? oh purleeeeeasssee godmommy!!!!
<pant> <pant>
<g>
Fifitrix
xxx
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:22:55 PDT
From: "Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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fifitrix wrote:
>The godmother wrote:
Carol Mc? The godmother? Oh, I see. You're one of those. That's a
relief: I thought I might have been in danger for a few moments there...
Moving away from the topic of toothy simpletons, I'd like to express my
appreciation for Blake's defenders. The boss does have his fans out
there, amidst all the Avon and Tarrant hype.
However, regardless of whether Blake's ruthless streak is good or bad,
it is there. And it's impossible to deny that he became more desperate
and more driven during the second season. It's difficult to maintain
that he wasn't a broken man by the time of Gauda Prime.
If someone spends years fighting against near impossible odds, and he
becomes hard-edged, cynical and autocratic, finally dying for what he
believes in, I don't see how that reflects badly on him. In fact, it
does Blake little justice to suggest that he didn't lose some of his
ability to judge people and situations. He paid a heavy price for his
early victories against the Federation. Surely it is a tribute to the
man that he was prepared to pay such a price.
Cheers,
-- Rob
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:24:20 PDT
From: "Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Silly season stuff and Blake stuff
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fifitrix wrote:
>The godmother wrote:
Carol Mc? The godmother? Oh, I see. You're one of those. That's a
relief: I thought I might have been in danger for a few moments there...
Moving away from the topic of toothy simpletons, I'd like to express my
appreciation for Blake's defenders. The boss does have his fans out
there, amidst all the Avon and Tarrant hype.
However, regardless of whether Blake's ruthless streak is good or bad,
it is there. And it's impossible to deny that he became more desperate
and more driven during the second season. It's difficult to maintain
that he wasn't a broken man by the time of Gauda Prime.
If someone spends years fighting against near impossible odds, and he
becomes hard-edged, cynical and autocratic, finally dying for what he
believes in, I don't see how that reflects badly on him. In fact, it
does Blake little justice to suggest that he didn't lose some of his
ability to judge people and situations. He paid a heavy price for his
early victories against the Federation. Surely it is a tribute to the
man that he was prepared to pay such a price.
Cheers,
-- Rob
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:08:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: "G. Robbins" <robbins@graceland.edu>
To: Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk>
cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Jackie wrote:
> G. Robbins wrote:
> > I wish I was in Great Britain so I could get copies of the
> > videocassettes...it is so hard to find any here on retail in the US.
> > However, I was told once that videotape format in the UK is different than
> > the States, so that wouldn't help me anyway. ARGH!
>
> It does seem very strange the we in the UK can buy very cheapo video
> recorders that play both PAL & NTSC (the cheapest one so far was 130
> pounds =approx 200 dollars). Where as it seems (from correspondence in
> the past) that the US VCR manufacturers have not heard of PAL.
>
> Would it not be worth picking up one of our cheapish VCRs on a visit
> over here, for use over there?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Jackie
> (who has actually found time to read some messages!!)
>
>
Excellent idea, now all I have to do is con my way to Great Britain!
(i.e., take out a Stafford Loan to study there, which is actually a real
dream of mine...how I would love to do that.)
--Grace
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:09:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: "G. Robbins" <robbins@graceland.edu>
To: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L re:Videos & Books
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On 14 Sep 1998, Calle Dybedahl wrote:
> Jackie <jackiew@termlow.co.uk> writes:
>
> > Would it not be worth picking up one of our cheapish VCRs on a visit
> > over here, for use over there?
>
> Probably wouldn't work. VCRs over here generate PAL out (or fake-PAL,
> in case of VCRs playing NTSC tapes), TV sets in the US want to hear
> NTSC. One could get a PAL TV set at the same time as the VCR, I guess,
> but then one gets to have fun with 110V/230V 60Hz/50Hz electricity instead.
> --
> Calle Dybedahl, UNIX Sysadmin
> qdtcall@esavionics.se http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/
>
>
Darn it, I was really getting my hopes up!!
--Grace
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