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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 267
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Travis (was Seven Vices)
[B7L] HORIZON Newsflash - Update
Re: [B7L] Travis (was Seven Vices)
Re: [B7L] Travis (was Seven Vices)
Re: [B7L] stupidity
Re: [B7L] top 100
[B7L] Croucher's Back
Re: [B7L] top 100
Re: [B7L] Space Command and the Presidency
Re: [B7L] Space Command and the Presidency
Re: [B7L] Space Command and the Presidency
Re: [B7L] re Project Avalon
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:43:23 EDT
From: Mac4781@aol.com
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Subject: [B7L] Travis (was Seven Vices)
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Sorry, I've lost info on who did the first quote. The follow-up is from
Deborah.
> << As plan after plan not only fails, but backfires, we can see his hatred
> of Blake growing. >>
>
> This makes sense to me. It would explain why Travis deteriorates the way
> he does into selling out the Human race. He reaches a stage where no price
is
> too much to accomplish his goal. An interesting parallel to Blake's own
growing
> obsession with Star One.
I've always thought that being brought up on politically motivated charges by
his own people (TRIAL) also contributed to his willingness to sell out
humanity. It left him a disgraced outlaw. What does he have left? His
career is in shambles. And the military was more than his career, it was his
life. He has to interpret Servalan's promise of "free as a dead man" as an
execution sentence. He has nothing left but a lot of anger and a lot of
enemies.
Carol Mc
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:03:47 +0100
From: JMR <jager@clara.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] HORIZON Newsflash - Update
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Tuesday 20th October
More News From "Horizon":
BRIAN CROUCHER -
Blake's 7 news seems to be a little like buses - all turning up at
once. News just in from Brian Croucher is that he's hosting "An Evening
With Brian Croucher" as part of the Wandsworth Festival at the Grace
Theatre, 503 Battersea Park Road, London (Box Office 0171 228 2620) on
SUNDAY 8th NOVEMBER 98.
It starts at 7.30 (for about an hour and a half) and takes the form of
excerpts from Brian's 30 years as an actor and director (including some
clips from the B7 episode +Trial+) followed by a short interview by a
fellow actor and ending with questions from the audience. For B7 fans
the evening doesn't end there, as Brian has invited attendees to join
him in the Grace's bar afterwards for a drink and a chat.
The Horizon website carries bus/train/tube routes to the Grace.
More detailed B7 news and information available at:
<http:\\www.horizon.org.uk>
J.M. Rolls
jager@clara.net
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:13:25 EDT
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis (was Seven Vices)
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In a message dated 98-10-20 08:47:23 EDT, Carol wrote:
<< I've always thought that being brought up on politically motivated charges
by
his own people (TRIAL) also contributed to his willingness to sell out
humanity. It left him a disgraced outlaw. What does he have left? His
career is in shambles. >>
I agree that the trial was a factor in his decision to sell out humanity, but
I think his career was going down the toilet before then. I remember a scene
in "Seek-Locate-Destroy" where Rai sticks his neck out to tell Servalan that
many officers will not serve with or obey Travis. Perhaps part of why he
preferred mutoid crews was a fear of mutiny (not that he would ever admit it).
I also think the fact that he'd been chasing that $@%&! Blake for years and
still hadn't gotten him had something to do with it. He was determined to
kill him, no matter what. Abit like burning down the house to kill one fly,
but so be it.
Tiger M
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:25:54 EDT
From: AChevron@aol.com
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis (was Seven Vices)
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In a message dated 10/20/98 7:47:23 AM Central Daylight Time, Mac4781@aol.com
writes:
<< 've always thought that being brought up on politically motivated charges
by
his own people (TRIAL) also contributed to his willingness to sell out
humanity. It left him a disgraced outlaw. What does he have left? His
career is in shambles. And the military was more than his career, it was his
life. He has to interpret Servalan's promise of "free as a dead man" as an
execution sentence. >>
I agree that this added to that. It wasn't immediately after the trial that
he was ready to sell out though; he was still focussed on Blake, and had for
at least a time the slim hope that finally successfully killing the
Federation's biggest nuisance might somehow earn him redemption. Servalan
played on that hope for a time; I think Gambit was the episode that
demonstrated that the hope was indeed a futile one, and her actions inflamed
him to include all of humanity to his list of persons to be destroyed at all
costs. Deborah Rose
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:46:48 +0100
From: "Heather Smith" <Heather.Smith@btinternet.com>
To: "Roger the Shrubber" <powerplay@cheerful.com>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] stupidity
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Roger wrote:
>Avon was being unnecessarily rude here. Why wouldn't Orac answer if you
>called his name?
Because he was supposed to have gone into hiding?
Heather.
'There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish'
-The fourth Doctor
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:50:50 -0600
From: "K. Michael Wilcox" <kmwilcox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] top 100
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Star Wars' tops sci-fi ratings
> NEW YORK (Reuters) - George Lucas' "Star Wars" tops Entertainment
> Weekly's list of the 100 best works of science fiction....
[snip]
> ***Does anyone know if a certain low-budget 1970's BBC show earned a mention
> ? Title escapes me....
No, B7 was not listed. "Doctor Who" was clear down at 62 (and "Babylon 5 was
at 94!). Frankly, though, the fact that the list included "Space Invaders"
(yes, the video game) at 68, only six places behind Who, and some singer called
Sun Ra (admittedly at the bottom, but still), while things like B7 and "The
Prisoner" were nowhere to be seen should demonstrate the value of this list.
K. M. Wilcox
This is my first post.
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:47:43 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: "space-city@world.std.com" <space-city@world.std.com>,
Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, Diane Gies <diane@horizon.org.uk>
Subject: [B7L] Croucher's Back
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Thought I'd let you know, Brian Croucher is doing his one man show at
the Grace Theatre in Battersea, south London on 8 November. It's called
Croucher's Back. This is the blurb:
"Long-term Battersea resident Brian Croucher returns a year on from his
move to deepest Kent, and his departure as Ted Hills from Eastenders.
Fresh from his recent performance as Prospero at the Gate, he delves
into his video vaults and gives us the behind the scenes story, spilling
the beans, and generally letting cats out of bags in a career spanning
30 years."
It starts at 7.30pm. Tickets are five pounds (four pound concessions).
The box office number is 0181 871 8711
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:29:20 EDT
From: AChevron@aol.com
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In a message dated 10/20/98 11:50:52 AM Central Daylight Time,
kmwilcox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
<< K. M. Wilcox
This is my first post. >>
We hope not your last; a well said piece. D. Rose
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:23:01 -0700
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Space Command and the Presidency
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Rob Clother wrote:
> While we're on the topic, just how much information is there about the
> Federation command structure? Before the War, the Federation seemed to
> be divided into Space Command and the Presidency.
However, when Servalan seized the Presidency prior to the invasion at
Star One, she consolidated the two offices, in effect forming a military
junta as is seen to often in South America, where the military general
deposes the president and rules by armed force.
If memory serves, a fascinatingly detailed analysis of the whole big
bureaucracy (based on canon references) was posted to this last last
spring (?) Don't know how you'd track it in the archives, tho. It
included that marvelous litany of titles that Tarrant spouts to Servalan
(forget which ep) in addressing her august position. No question that
Tarrant was Federation trained! Those showy space cadets have to be
polished at upper echelon parties.
Pat P
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:15:09 PDT
From: "Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Space Command and the Presidency
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Pat:
>If memory serves, a fascinatingly detailed analysis of the whole big
>bureaucracy (based on canon references) was posted to this last last
>spring (?) Don't know how you'd track it in the archives, tho.
Calle, this looks like your field! Is there an archive file I can dig
through?
-- Rob
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Date: 21 Oct 1998 12:03:46 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Space Command and the Presidency
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"Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com> writes:
> Is there an archive file I can dig through?
Oh yes, there is. ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/blake7/digests/ holds
everything from 11 September 1995 up until nearly now (it usually lags
about a day behind getting copied to the FTP disk).
ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/blake7/archive/ holds nearly everything
before September 1995, with a gap in August and September '95 (I have
the files lying around, I just haven't got around to putting them in
their right place). All in all, there's about 23 megabytes of archive
files, almost all of them compressed.
--
Calle Dybedahl, qdtcall@esavionics.se, http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/
Mediocre minds think alike.
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:37:21 EDT
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] re Project Avalon
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Pat wrote:
<< With Halloween coming up, I propose another list game:
What costume would each crew member choose from Liberator's "clothes
room" to wear out trick 'n treating at Freedom City?
Blake: Robin Hood
Jenna: Fairy Princess
Avon: Count Dracula
Cally: alien "grey"
Vila: Roman Senator in toga with laurel leaves (and golden wine goblet)
(and slave girls)
Dayna: Atilla the Hun with long spear and sharp sword
Tarrant: The bold pirate in crimson, Captain Blood
Soolin: Heidi in pigtails - no! no! I mean the evil druid Queen Morgan
la Fey
Travis: Adolf Hitler
Servalan: '20s Flapper (all that silky, sexy fringe) (and secret
passwords to the SpeakEasy) >>
This is great! Here are some other possibilities:
Blake: George Washington - they both wanted to start a new order
Jenna: Barbie doll - they both have great clothes and hair
Avon: Mr. Spock - they both hate emotions
Cally: Dr. Laura Schlessinger - they both like to give advice and Cally might
enjoy being really scary
Villa: Houdini - they are both great with locks
Dayna: Wonder Woman - they are great fighters
Tarrant: Capt. Drake, another great fighter
Soolin: Emma Peel - both are tough, smart, and good fighters
Travis: a bloodhound - they both like to track things
Servalan: Katherine the Great - both loved power and dressed great
Gan: Little John - they were both big and loyal
Thanks, Pat, for this fun idea.
Gail G.
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