From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #290 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/290 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 290 Today's Topics: [B7L] Blake vs Sheridan [B7L] Re: Hostage [B7L] Sevenfold Crown tape, with bloodstains Re: [B7L] Blk Vs Shrdn : PLEASE, NO B5 SPOILERS Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan [B7L] Voyager Re: [B7L] vila's locks RE: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan Re: [B7L] vila's locks Re: [B7L] Re: Hostage Re: [B7L] Blk Vs Shrdn : PLEASE, NO B5 SPOILERS Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan Re: [B7L] Re: Hostage Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:12:46 +0000 From: Frank Roach To: "Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail)" Subject: [B7L] Blake vs Sheridan Message-ID: <3653FD2E.6CBEF0BE@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is my first post on this list. As a fan of both series, I find this comparison of Blake and Sheridan very interesting. It would be interesting to think what Blake would have been able to do if he had the resources available to him that Sheridan has. Certainly Blake never hasd allies as powerful as either the Vorlans or the Minbari! Frando ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:02:19 -0500 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: [B7L] Re: Hostage Message-ID: <199811191702_MC2-60E6-43E3@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pat F wrote: >Penny you are not alone in your liking for 'Hostage'. No, she isn't. Apart from points mentioned, I like the sense of Avon carefully trying to avoid all the pitfalls of Horizon in advance, and falling into worse ones as a consequence, eg: Stop Blake going down to planet by arranging for Federation to be waiting. Foiled when Servalan decides to come herself, which takes too long. Go down to planet early on to rescue Blake before he (and everyone else) gets captured. Foiled when Avon gets captured. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:09:05 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Sevenfold Crown tape, with bloodstains Message-ID: <19981119220906.25232.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Hello all, and Kiersten (who did warn me ) Well, now I have my very own copy of the tape, but I've yet to listen to it all - I decided the bus between Town Hall and Gladesville wasn't the best situation to listen to it . So I'll certainly try this afternoon, on the way home for the weekend - two hours by train between Epping and Newcastle should be long enough for me to gain an idea of whether or not it was worth it! One thing, though: I had a brief listen to the interviews at the end of the tape and heard something that makes me worry about my ears. Jacqueline Pearce's voice. I did hear that it had changed somewhat, and the reason for it; but I'm damn glad I was told it was her, because I thought it was Lynda Bellingham (Vena in Headhunter, for those who've forgotten) just for a moment. Very strange Carol, whose bloodstains are those? Not mine, I hope Between fifitrix having cornered the market in horses' heads and Jenni carrying on like the very late Kara in "Cygnus Alpha", I think I've enough to worry about Good thing, Gail, that you've decided to reconsider the Toothy One, as unfortunate things happen to those the Godmother keeps her beady eyes on! Regards Joanne I was born modest - not all over, but in spots. --Mark Twain ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:24:17 +1000 From: "David Henderson" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Blk Vs Shrdn : PLEASE, NO B5 SPOILERS Message-ID: <004f01be1413$bb05b480$9537db89@lemon.jcu.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Calle intoned; >"Reuben" writes: > >> Only one week now, and then we can REALLY compare series. > >No, you can't. At least not here. If you post spoilers for the final >five episodes, I'll personally hunt you down and kill you. Not unless I find him first... Oz is only a few episodes into season 5. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:37:09 -0000 From: "Sarah Beecham" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: Iain Coleman > To: Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan > Date: 19 November 1998 16:32 > I've never found it to be a good idea to watch Voyager at all. > > Iain > ::delurks briefly:: Voyager? Wasn't that the holographic lungs program? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:15:49 -0600 (EST) From: Tegan Brandi To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Voyager Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > ::delurks briefly:: > > Voyager? Wasn't that the holographic lungs program? *ding* it's also the program with the evil lettuce headed guys, Busty of Borg, and Leo DaVinci beams down to a planet . i know i have a sad life when i realize this is how i spend my saturday nights, and we have no PBS. *smirk* tegan (*) tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu http://goddess.coe.missouri.edu/~tegan "Personally, I don't care if their whole planet turns into a mushroom. I shall stay because I don't like an unsolved mystery." -- Avon, Mission to Destiny (A7) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:19:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Una McCormack To: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] vila's locks Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Roger the Shrubber said: >Allison wrote: >> In fact, I can't think of a lock that stopped him(I'm probably wrong). > >Dorian's security door on Xenon seemed to stump Vila, but then Dorian got >killed, so either Soolin or Vila must have opened it later (or Avon got >around the programming ...) Having realized that we weren't talking about Vila's hair - Vila couldn't open the lock on the London. Una -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Judge Institute of Management Studies Tel: +44 (0)1223 766064 Trumpington Street Fax: +44 (0)1223 339701 Cambridge CB2 1AG http://www.sticklebrock.demon.co.uk/una United Kingdom http://www.jims.cam.ac.uk/research/ion/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:04:47 +1030 From: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" To: "'Reuben'" Cc: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" Subject: RE: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain > -----Original Message----- > From: Reuben [SMTP:reuben@reuben.net] > Sent: Friday, 20 November 1998 1:22 > To: Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan > > > > > There is one other similarity. > JMS (Babylon 5) has usurped Terry Nation (Blakes 7) for the record of most > consecutive episodes written. > > Martin > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:57:16 EST From: AChevron@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan Message-ID: <30033ae9.3655591c@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/19/98 1:19:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, ShilLance@aol.com writes: << LOL!!!! :-) Though it would probaly end with Janeway, 7 of 9 and Voyager wiping the floor with Sheridan, Garibaldi, Blake and Avon. >> Sheridan and Blake might fall, but Garibaldi by himself could take those two! Avon would just invent an ....entertaining way of finishing them. Ooops, those dirty little pictures are bubbling in my head again.......... D. Rose ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 04:16:57 PST From: "Don Trower" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] vila's locks Message-ID: <19981120121710.10369.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain >Vila couldn't open the lock on the London. >Said Una Just because he said he couldn't unpick the lock on the London does not mean that he couldn't if he wanted to. If he thought his life would be as risk as a result of opening a locked door he wouldn't do it. In one of the earlier episodes he and Blake are raiding a Fed out post, Vila says "There isn't a lock I can't crack if I have to" or something like that, there is a security robot approaching at the time. Another point about the robots on guard there, although they react to the intruder's presence with flame units etc. they do not contact the human security forces on the outpost. Are the robots programed to just deal with these problems, like wild animals straying onto the site. Or is there a profesional robotic pride at work here. Don. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:31:42 GMT From: mjsmith@tcd.ie (Murray) To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Hostage Message-Id: <199811201331.NAA06756@dux1.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Harriet, I also find 'Hostage' interesting, in that Blake's rescue plan was incompetent. In order to rescue Inga, he walked up an escarpment, in thin air, in full view of Travis and his followers, who would be rested and waiting for him. Did he not even think of using the teleport? Murray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:01:09 -0600 From: "Reuben" To: "Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail)" Subject: Re: [B7L] Blk Vs Shrdn : PLEASE, NO B5 SPOILERS Message-ID: <000601be1496$9bb0fcb0$660114ac@misnt.tursso.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: David Henderson To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [B7L] Blk Vs Shrdn : PLEASE, NO B5 SPOILERS >Calle intoned; > >>"Reuben" writes: >> >>> Only one week now, and then we can REALLY compare series. >> >>No, you can't. At least not here. If you post spoilers for the final >>five episodes, I'll personally hunt you down and kill you. > > >Not unless I find him first... > >Oz is only a few episodes into season 5. I'm not going to post any spoilers. Gee, at least put a smiley behind those statements, I'm getting scared here. :-) Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:34:00 -0600 From: "Reuben" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan Message-ID: <000b01be149b$3485c160$660114ac@misnt.tursso.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Beecham To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan >> From: Iain Coleman >> To: Blakes 7 Mail (E-mail) >> Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan >> Date: 19 November 1998 16:32 >> I've never found it to be a good idea to watch Voyager at all. >> I don't quite get it. I love Star Trek, but I just can't like Voyager. Every few months I sit down and watch an episode after convincing myself that maybe I'm just being silly and have only seen bad episodes, but I always come away shaking my head. I really think the only reason people think it got good is 7 of 9. (hey Jeri Ryan is single again!) Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:59:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Iain Coleman To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Hostage Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just adding my voice to the closet Hostage-fans. For all its faults, there is a lot of good stuff in this one. Croucher has nice moments, especially his "I understand shame very well" conversation with Blake, and the episode also contains one of my favourite Blake-Avon exchanges: AVON: I still say it is an unacceptable risk. BLAKE: It is not unacceptable because I accept it! You just can't argue with logic like that. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:50:50 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake Vs Sheridan Message-ID: In message <000b01be149b$3485c160$660114ac@misnt.tursso.com>, Reuben writes >I don't quite get it. I love Star Trek, but I just can't like Voyager. >Every few months I sit down and watch an episode after convincing myself >that maybe I'm just being silly and have only seen bad episodes, but I >always come away shaking my head. I really think the only reason people >think it got good is 7 of 9. (hey Jeri Ryan is single again!) There *are* good episodes, really. I've seen at least one... More seriously - yes, I have seen good episodes, but the 90% law is more like 99.9% when applied to Voyager. It simply isn't worth the time you waste sitting through the bad episodes for the amount of pleasure to be gained on finding a good one. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #290 **************************************