From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #302 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume98/302 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 302 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Gotcha all. [B7L] Carnell - thanks again [B7L] A New Character Re: [B7L] A New Character [B7L] Gareth photos [B7L] Redemption and plays [B7L] Horizon Newsflash 7/12/98 ------------------------------ Date: 06 Dec 1998 20:08:13 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Gotcha all. Message-ID: <us4sr93x7m.fsf@sally.lysator.liu.se> Spam and chain-letter-type things are not welcome on this list. Please don't do that again. /Listadmin -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Hello? Brain? What do we want for breakfast? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 14:10:14 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Carnell - thanks again Message-ID: <19981206221014.22088.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Hello all. Lisa, thank you for more pictures, but I still cannot see what it is that some (female) members of the list have been drooling over <smile>. Maybe you're right - one does need to see an animated version of the pictures in order to have any idea. As for Dangermouse, don't worry about sending snow in the direction of the Antipodean list members - it'll melt before it gets to us <grin>. Either that, or some of us can hit you with our recently acquired copies of "Mission: Impractical". Vandor Prime indeed! <grin> Regards Joanne Once a moderately jolly wizard camped by a dried-up waterhole under the shade of a tree that he was completely unable to identify. And he swore as he hacked and hacked at a can of beer, saying, 'What kind of *idiots* put beer in *tins*?' Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 17:29:47 EST From: LordRab@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] A New Character Message-ID: <18d3c1a4.366b055b@aol.com> Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_912983387_boundary" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_912983387_boundary Content-ID: <0_912983387@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello All, I'm afraid the new character is me and this is my first posting to the group. I have read and watched the progress for a few weeks now, concurrent with my re-viewing of the Blake's 7 series from beginning to end with great interest. My fascination with Sci Fi goes back to childhood and I have digested the good with the bad over the years but never has a series grabbed me in such a way as Blake's 7 has. Nevermind the cheesy monsters or the low budget special effects, or even the occasional lame episode that goes nowhere. At it's heart was a character driven story that arced from episode to episode (not unlike a <shiver> soap opera) in which charcters reactions to plot developments did not always move in predictable ways. This goes against the grain of most genre type fiction where we are given clearly defined "heroes and heroines". Boiled down, most sci fi on TV has always been cops and robbers or cowboys and indians in outer space. Ok, Star Trek will give us the occasional moral dilemma, but they somehow manage to wrap things up all neat and tidy by episodes end and the good guys win (and we feel soooo good about it) and we have another valuable vanilla morality play. Oh yes, and everyone recovers nicely from their wounds. A recent example: On Voyager, the HoloDoctor is assisted by a Cardasian (aka Nazi's in outer space) Surgeon hologram whose barbaric medical experiments provided the data necessary to save the life of a crew member. Of course the politically correct crew are outraged and the data is destroyed in the end after being used succesfully because it's the right thing to do. All I could think of was a line from my favorite Blake's 7 character (surprise!!!! It's Kerr Avon) : "I rarely comment on the Ethics of others" Cheers, Rab "Give me ambiguity or give me something else" --part0_912983387_boundary Content-ID: <0_912983387@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <> Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v53.20) with SMTP; Sun, 06 Dec 1998 13:33:04 -0500 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id NAA21036 for <LordRab@aol.com>; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 13:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost) by imo28.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) with internal id NAA25536; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 13:33:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 13:33:04 -0500 (EST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@aol.com> Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-Id: <199812061833.NAA25536@imo28.mx.aol.com> To: LordRab@aol.com Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The original message was received at Sun, 6 Dec 1998 13:32:25 -0500 (EST) from root@localhost *** ATTENTION *** An e-mail you sent to an Internet destination could not be delivered. 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User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- Received: from LordRab@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 0XYGa05320 for <Blakes7-@lysator.liu.se>; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 13:32:24 -0500 (EST) From: LordRab@aol.com Return-path: <LordRab@aol.com> Message-ID: <89c09247.366acdb8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 13:32:24 EST To: Blakes7-@lysator.liu.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: A New Character Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.5 for Windows Hello All, I'm afraid the new character is me and this is my first posting to the group. I have read and watched the progress for a few weeks now, concurrent with my re-viewing of the Blake's 7 series from beginning to end with great interest. My fascination with Sci Fi goes back to childhood and I have digested the good with the bad over the years but never has a series grabbed me in such a way as Blake's 7 has. Nevermind the cheesy monsters or the low budget special effects, or even the occasional lame episode that goes nowhere. At it's heart was a character driven story that arced from episode to episode (not unlike a <shiver> soap opera) in which charcters reactions to plot developments did not always move in predictable ways. This goes against the grain of most genre type fiction where we are given clearly defined "heroes and heroines". Boiled down, most sci fi on TV has always been cops and robbers or cowboys and indians in outer space. Ok, Star Trek will give us the occasional moral dilemma, but they somehow manage to wrap things up all neat and tidy by episodes end and the good guys win (and we feel soooo good about it) and we have another valuable vanilla morality play. Oh yes, and everyone recovers nicely from their wounds. A recent example: On Voyager, the HoloDoctor is assisted by a Cardasian (aka Nazi's in outer space) Surgeon hologram whose barbaric medical experiments provided the data necessary to save the life of a crew member. Of course the politically correct crew are outraged and the data is destroyed in the end after being used succesfully because it's the right thing to do. All I could think of was a line from my favorite Blake's 7 character (surprise!!!! It's Kerr Avon): "I rarely comment on the Ethics of others" Cheers, Rab "Give me ambiguity or give me something else" --part0_912983387_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 02:35:11 PST From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] A New Character Message-ID: <19981207103511.11254.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Rab said >Ok, Star Trek will give us the occasional moral dilemma, but they somehow >manage to wrap things up all neat and tidy by episodes end and the good guys >win... > Star Trek has an unfair advantage over B7 in this arena, inasmuch as it has "good guys". B7 has, at best, "not-as-bad-as-some guys". ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:11:56 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] Gareth photos Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1207111156-d07Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dangermouse very helpfully helped me trace some photos of Gareth in Pygmalion, Cat on a hot Tin Roof, Jekyll and Hyde and Rebecca that are now in the Scottish Theatre Archive. The best ones appear to be the Pygmalion ones (he was playing Colonel Pickering) I'm just about to send in an order for photos for myself and several friends. Does anyone else want any while I'm at it? Price is �4 for a 7x5 photo, �6 for a 8x10, and �10 for 20x16, plus postage. They're all black and white. If you're interested, mail me and I'll send you a list of the photos. They'd prefer me to send in one large order rather than everyone sending in separate orders as it makes their life simpler. (Besides, I can sort out the overseas money more easily that way) I can't predict postage costs in advance, but I'll do it as reasonably as I can. I can't guarantee that you'll get your photos before Xmas as it depends on how busy the people at the archive are, so it's probably more likely that you'll get them in the New year. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:07:38 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com> Subject: [B7L] Redemption and plays Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1207130738-bc8Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Redemption is 26-28 Feb in Ashford in Kent. Paul Darrow is appearing in Swansea in Guards Guards two days later, on Tuesday 2nd March and Gareth Thomas is in 'The Hosts of Rebecca' the same week in Cardiff starting on the same day. Students of geography will realise that Swansea and Cardiff are both in South Wales and only about 30 miles apart. Would there be interest if we organised a mini-bus/coach on the Monday from Ashford to South Wales? If there's enough interest, we might be able to work out some kind of package involving transport, accomodation in Wales for Tuesday and Wednesday night, theatre tickets etc, but I'm only prepared to do that if there's sufficient interest. Another thing that might be possible (and it is only might, because I've only just thought of it - well actually a lady from Theatre Clwyd suggested it to me about an hour ago) would be to try and arrange a get-together on the Monday night with Paul and/or Gareth. Basically, the more people who are interested, the more effort I'm prepared to expend in trying to put together something worthwhile. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 23:03:09 +0000 From: JMR <jager@clara.net> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Horizon Newsflash 7/12/98 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19981207230309.007b9790@mail.clara.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" HORIZON NEWSFLASH 7 December 98 GARETH THOMAS Gareth will play Tomos Treherne (the Narrator/Minister) in THE HOSTS OF REBECCA an adaptation of a classical Welsh novel by Alexander Cordell. It will play 04/27 February - Theatre Clwyd, Mold (Box Office 01352 755114) and 01/06 March - New Theatre, Cardiff CF1 3LN (Box Office 01222 878889). You can also watch out for him next year in a TV ad for Warburton's Bread, in which he plays the father of an ice skater. The Horizon Club website: <http://www.horizon.org.uk> J.M. Rolls jager@clara.net ---------------- Steedophilia: The John Steed Website <http://home.clara.net/jager/> -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #302 **************************************