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blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 316
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Babylon 5 in the UK
[B7L] RPG
Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
RE: [B7L] Babylon 5 in the UK
Re: [B7L] RPG
Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption (fwd)
Re: [B7L] Re: Uncut
Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
[B7L] The character known as dangermouse
Re: [B7L] Redemption
RE: [B7L] Babylon 5 in the UK
Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
[B7L] Happy holiday
[B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #315
Re: [B7L] Free time again
Re: [B7L] RPG
Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
Re: [B7L] RPG
Re: [B7L] RPG
[B7L] UNCUT
[B7L] Christmas wishes
[B7L] story arcs
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:23:29 -0000
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Harriet Monkhouse" <101637.2064@compuserve.com>,
"Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>,
"Space City" <space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Babylon 5 in the UK
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> From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
> By the way, I suppose most British B5 fans have already heard this, but I
> don't think I've seen it here: the final five episodes of season five are
> supposed to be broadcast on Channel 4 at 11.30 a.m. (yes, late morning)
Which means: Expect heavy cuts.
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 05:44:32 -0800 (PST)
From: "Emma.G." <muzzzy@mail.geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] RPG
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Hello everyone :)
A while back people on this list were discussing a Blakes7 RPG... could
anyone tell me if it was ever done, or if anyone is planning it? I am most
interested :) thankyou in advance, merry christmas :)
muzzzy
-~= muzzzy@geocities.com =~-
'One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them
One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them'
~Lord of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien~
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:50:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: Robert Baskerville <Robert@Baskerville.Net>
To: space-city@world.std.com
Cc: Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk, Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
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"master@sol.co.uk" wrote:
> > From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> > Brian Croucher will be coming to Redemption. He'll be there for all
> > three days
> > (work permitting, of course).
>
> And that's supposed to be a good thing?
Actually, yes.
Not everyone particularly likes every character. But at least some of the
people there will be really pleased to meet any particular person involved.
Don't impose your own likes and dislikes on the rest of us.
Judith - well done for getting Brian. It's always a blow for a guest to
be unable to make it (although we all know that this can happen), and it's
really nice to see an effort made to fill-the-gap. Thanks.
Robert Baskerville
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:59:11 -0000
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: <Robert@Baskerville.Net>, <space-city@world.std.com>
Cc: <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>, <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
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> From: Robert Baskerville <Robert@Baskerville.Net>
> >
> > And that's supposed to be a good thing?
>
> Actually, yes.
>
> Not everyone particularly likes every character. But at least some of the
> people there will be really pleased to meet any particular person
involved.
> Don't impose your own likes and dislikes on the rest of us.
Nothing to do with liking or disliking the character- I've done conventions
(as a guest) with Croucher before, and he's the rudest and most obnoxious
man I've ever met - and that's against some pretty stiff competition.
(example- Steward in Hostility suite: "would you like anything...?"
Croucher: "A blonde with big tits who likes it up her shiter.")
So don't patronise me.
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:33:45 -0000
From: Anne Lane <aplane@tesco.net>
To: "'B7'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Babylon 5 in the UK
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On Wednesday, December 23, 1998 1:23 PM, Dangermouse wrote:
>
>
> ----------
> > From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
> > By the way, I suppose most British B5 fans have already heard this, but I
> > don't think I've seen it here: the final five episodes of season five are
> > supposed to be broadcast on Channel 4 at 11.30 a.m. (yes, late morning)
>
> Which means: Expect heavy cuts.
I understand that the morning broadcsats will be cut because of the time slot,
but because of this fans persuaded C4 to show them in the Sunday eveing slot
uncut as well. Which means great self control in not watching the cut versions
and taking 5 weeks to watch the uncut (as well as avoiding all human contact in
the interim, just in case).
My big problem is that having come to Babylon 5 very late I haven't seen *any*
of season 5, nad the videos are not coming out until March - August. Now I
can't possibly go to redemption and avoid all talk of B5! Can anyone tell me,
given what i've heard about the introspection and different nature of season 5,
whether it might be reasonable to watch the last 5 episodes before the rest of
the season?
Anne
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Date: 23 Dec 1998 15:43:20 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] RPG
Message-ID: <usu2ym7wc7.fsf@sally.lysator.liu.se>
"Emma.G." <muzzzy@mail.geocities.com> writes:
> A while back people on this list were discussing a Blakes7 RPG...
> could anyone tell me if it was ever done, or if anyone is planning
> it? I am most interested :)
I bought a copy of it at Deliverance, and have it at home. Is there
anything in particular you want to know about it?
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
Please pay no attention to the panda in the fridge.
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:43:47 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: space-city@world.std.com, Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
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Robert then Dangermouse wrote:
> > Not everyone particularly likes every character. But at least some of the
> > people there will be really pleased to meet any particular person
> involved.
> > Don't impose your own likes and dislikes on the rest of us.
> Nothing to do with liking or disliking the character- I've done conventions
> (as a guest) with Croucher before, and he's the rudest and most obnoxious
> man I've ever met - and that's against some pretty stiff competition.
Of course everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. And no one is on
his/her best behavior at all times. But I've found Brian to be an
entertaining guest. I've also had dinner with him a couple of times and he
couldn't have been more considerate and polite.
Robert, I appreciate your positive attitude. It's great to have you on the
lists.
Carol Mc
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:48:41 +0000 (GMT)
From: Robert Baskerville <Robert@Baskerville.Net>
To: space-city@world.std.com
Cc: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
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Someone writes:
> Nothing to do with liking or disliking the character- I've done conventions
Maybe my use of the word "character" is confusing here. I'm not talking
just about the characters from the production, but the characters of the
actors themselves. Some people will dislike some of them.
> (as a guest) with Croucher before, and he's the rudest and most obnoxious
> man I've ever met - and that's against some pretty stiff competition.
This is your view.
Others may disagree.
Once again, don't impose your own likes and dislikes on the rest of us.
Robert Baskerville.
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:17:16 -0000
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>, <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>,
<space-city@world.std.com>, <Robert@Baskerville.Net>
Subject: Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption (fwd)
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> From: Robert Baskerville <Robert@Baskerville.Net>
>>> Not everyone particularly likes every character. But at least some of
>>> the people there will be really pleased to meet any particular person
>>> involved.
>>> Don't impose your own likes and dislikes on the rest of us.
>>
>> Nothing to do with liking or disliking the character- I've done
>> conventions (as a guest) with Croucher before, and he's the rudest and
most
>> obnoxious man I've ever met - and that's against some pretty stiff
competition.
>>
>> (example- Steward in Hostility suite: "would you like anything...?"
>> Croucher: "A blonde with big tits who likes it up her shiter.")
>>
>> So don't patronise me.
>
> You are not exactly the most polite person yourself.
Really? Have we met? Did I tell you off for something? Or are you just
pissed off because I'm not saying what you want to hear?
Well, at least I've yet to go up on stage and rant about "those fucking
women," "Those fucking poofs" and "those fucking Pakis" as Croucher did at
Who's 7 in 94.
> Welcome to my Killfile.
Good - I trust that means I won't hear your moaning again.
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:01:42 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Uncut
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On Wed 23 Dec, Harriet Monkhouse wrote:
> Judith asked:
> >Has anyone thought of writing to Fabulous Films and asking
> >them to use the aired version of 'Rescue' when they get to that
> >stage in the releases?
>
> Are you volunteering? Or suggesting a mass campaign (in which case we'd
> better all have the address)? Will Fab Films actually have access to the
> original, or just what the BBC gave them?
I'm four feet deep in convention work at the moment so I'd rather someone else
volunteered. It may only require something as simple as letting them know that
a better version of 'Rescue' exists. Then they can ask he BBC if they so
desire.
Judith
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:32:14 EST
From: AChevron@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: Space-city@world.std.com
Subject: Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
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In a message dated 12/23/98 9:05:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, master@sol.co.uk
writes:
<< Nothing to do with liking or disliking the character- I've done conventions
(as a guest) with Croucher before, and he's the rudest and most obnoxious
man I've ever met - and that's against some pretty stiff competition.
>>
Ahmmmm. Though I'm not much in the Christmas mood this year, I'm finding
these conversations rather jarring. Can we leave it at that some people have
their reasons for being less than thrilled at Croucher's coming appearance,
and others, like myself, have never seen him and would like the opportunity to
judge for ourselves? I don't see anything to be gained by much more discussion
on what is a moot issue. d. Rose
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 18:35:58 +0000 (GMT)
From: Robert Baskerville <Robert@Baskerville.Net>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se, space-city@world.std.com
Subject: [B7L] The character known as dangermouse
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All,
I understand that "dangermouse" has posted part or all of a private email
written by me (to him personally) to these mailing lists. This is a blatent
abuse of netiquette, clearly this character has no manners whatsoever or
a significant technological ineptitude. I apologise to all the list members
for the noise this has created.
I'll not bother responding any more to the dangerm00se here; he's welcome
to hurl abuse directly at me all he likes. <Yawn>
Robert Baskerville
Robert@Baskerville.Net
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:02:10 -0000
From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
To: "Judith Proctor" <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>,
"Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "Space City" <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Redemption
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> From: Dangermouse <master@sol.co.uk>
> > Brian Croucher will be coming to Redemption. He'll be there for all
> three days
> > (work permitting, of course).
>
> And that's supposed to be a good thing?
And, for the sake of those of you who *aren't* Robert Baskerville...
I'd presume of course that Judith will keep him in line- and Jan Chappell
and Kev Davies assure me that he's usually a nice guy.
So I'm still looking forward to it, unless Judith bans me (I have a natural
gift for rubbing everybody up the wrong way, sooner or later.)
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:24:33 -0600 (EST)
From: Tegan Brandi <tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu>
To: "'B7'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Babylon 5 in the UK
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On Wed, 23 Dec 1998, Anne Lane wrote:
> My big problem is that having come to Babylon 5 very late I haven't seen *any*
> of season 5, nad the videos are not coming out until March - August. Now I
> can't possibly go to redemption and avoid all talk of B5! Can anyone tell me,
> given what i've heard about the introspection and different nature of season 5,
> whether it might be reasonable to watch the last 5 episodes before the rest of
> the season?
At the very least, you can watch the last episode (with a box of hankies,
I cried the entire time) since it was made at the end of season 4. There
are somethings that might not make a whole lot of sense unless you'd seen
the earlier parts of the season for the other four, but there's always the
possibility of picking up some of what's going on -- my first episode was
War Without End part 2 :). So basically a portion of what you watch will
definitely spoil the previous episodes, so you might do well to read a
synopsis online before seeing the 4 before Sleeping in Light. The last
five were definitely some of the best stuff in the season.
To bring it back to B7, was there actually an attempt for B7 to have
"arcs" for each season like B5, other than trying to keep the show from
completely contradicting itself? Basically, was the progression in say
season 2 intentional like B5, or accidental?
tegan (*)
tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu
http://goddess.coe.missouri.edu/~tegan
I'd like to go to your house and gather all your razors and pick
all the little prickly hairs so I can weigh them, what do ya say?
Five pounds, six pounds, seven pounds
- Phish, Weigh
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Date: 23 Dec 1998 20:45:31 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: "Lysator List" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>,
"Space City" <Space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
Message-ID: <ushfumhcbo.fsf@sally.lysator.liu.se>
"Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk> writes:
> I have a natural gift for rubbing everybody up the wrong way, sooner
> or later.
And on both mailing lists at once, even.
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
"I came out of that meeting so full of enthusiasm that I spent the
next two hours updating my resume" -- Paul Tomblin
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 00:19:26 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: xenanet <xenanet-l@lists.dircon.co.uk>,
Space City <space-city@world.std.com>,
Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Happy holiday
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I'm off to see the family for a few days, being that time of year, so
happy seasonal holiday to you all and I should be back to a full mailbox
mid next week.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:12:21 -0800
From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com (Penny L Kjelgaard)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #315
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Is something wrong with my mail server? I only got the first two post of
the digest. I get the whole thing as single attachments, which is
frustrating enough. Why, I don't know, I never did before. Anyway, any
thoughts?
Peace,
Penny
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 03:38:12 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again
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>Floyd is the kind of music that needs to be listened to whilst being still,
Don't you mean something else beginning with 'st-'?
But yeah, 'Great Gig', excellent stuff. I don't care what Clare Torry's
breasts look(ed) like, the only comparable vocal track I can think of is
Grace Slick's solo on 'Alexander the Medium'.
And for my next trick, I will actually discuss B7.
Neil
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 03:53:56 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] RPG
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>> A while back people on this list were discussing a Blakes7 RPG...
>> could anyone tell me if it was ever done, or if anyone is planning
>> it? I am most interested :)
>
>I bought a copy of it at Deliverance, and have it at home. Is there
>anything in particular you want to know about it?
I wasn't overly impressed by Ming the Merciless' RPG. I thought it was
unimaginatively derivative, top heavy with book-keeping, and basically
rather sterile. On the other hand, it's a good base to tinker with if you
like making up rules...
I would suggest adapting an existing set of rules to B7. The Star Wars RPG
is a good slick system, ideal for narrative/character based gaming. Or try
2300AD if hard SF is more your line.
Has anyone thought of negotiating a B7 franchise for GURPS?
Neil
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 03:45:19 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: SC: Re: [B7L] Redemption
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>> I have a natural gift for rubbing everybody up the wrong way, sooner
>> or later.
>
>And on both mailing lists at once, even.
>--
Damn, damn, someone stealing my thunder already (oy ve!). But seriously,
Dangermouse's remarks open a new slant on an actor I'd always taken to be a
right-on working class hero. What was the context of these remarks about
women, poofs and Pakis? The big blonde comment is the kind I'd make myself
without remotely meaning it, so I don't attach much importance to that.
Guess I'll have to see him in action at Rdemption.
Neil
"It's shite being Scottish" - Ewan McGregor, 'Trainspotting'
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:43:24 +1000
From: "Taina Nieminen" <taina@netspace.net.au>
To: "B7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] RPG
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I've played in a B7-type universe using GURPS, which worked okay. Hunted by
the Federation is a 120 point disadvantage, which being a group
disadvantage, bypasses the 40 point disad limit, and gives more than decent
characters using a 100 point base.
Champions might also work well with B7, given the difficulty of killing
characters in it - there wouldn't be a great threat of the PCs actually
being killed.
What's 2300AD like? I've never come across it.
Taina
===========================
Is there a mind/body problem?
And if so, which is it better to have?
- Woody Allen
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Date: 24 Dec 1998 09:59:15 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] RPG
Message-ID: <us4sqlhq58.fsf@sally.lysator.liu.se>
"Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net> writes:
> I wasn't overly impressed by Ming the Merciless' RPG. I thought it
> was unimaginatively derivative, top heavy with book-keeping, and
> basically rather sterile.
I have to agree with this, unfortunately. It feels very much like a
second-rate RPG from the early 80s (which is not a good thing).
> Has anyone thought of negotiating a B7 franchise for GURPS?
Given the current state of the RPG market, I doubt that SJG could
afford to do it. Which is a shame, since I think they're the most
likely people to make a good game out of it (GURPS Prisoner is great,
and that series is *much* harder to make a good RPG out of).
No, I think any GURPS B7 would have to be a partisan effort, along the
lines of GURPS Romance.
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
Mediocre minds think alike.
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:17:50 +0000
From: cj <rollingthunder@net.ntl.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] UNCUT
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Thanks for all your replies. However, the consensus appears to be that
only the episodes SPACEFALL and RESCUE were cut. If this is so, then
why do so many of the videos covers not state that the tapes include "
UNEDITED EPISODES - the tape containing VOLCANO for example?
Chris.
--
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A frog jump in -
Plop!"
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 23:23:33 +1100
From: "Afenech" <Fenech@onaustralia.com.au>
To: "spacecity" <space-city@world.std.com>
Cc: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Christmas wishes
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Hello everyone -smile-
I hope Christmas is all you would like it to be and that the New Year
brings nothing but good things.
Pat Fenech
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 09:01:30 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] story arcs
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On Wed 23 Dec, Tegan Brandi wrote:
> To bring it back to B7, was there actually an attempt for B7 to have
> "arcs" for each season like B5, other than trying to keep the show from
> completely contradicting itself? Basically, was the progression in say
> season 2 intentional like B5, or accidental?
Some of the arc, like the search for Star One, was certainly deliberate. Other
seasons varied, but each tended to have its own character. I believe season 3
was originally intended to be a 'looking for Blake' season, though in fact only
two of the stories came out this way and the net result is that season 3 feels
as though it is drifting rather (though some of the individual episodes such as
Children of Auron, Rumours of Death and Sarcophagus form a mini-arc).
The first three or four episodes of season one are also a distinct mini-arc.
I think one important things even though it isn't a story arc per se is that the
characters were allowed to change and develop over time. Thus we get both
Travis and Blake becoming increasingly fanatic in the second season. We get
major changes in Avon's character as he copes with life without first Blake and
then without Cally and Liberator. Vila's attitude to Avon changes after Orbit
(I alway felt that was good acting on Michael Keating's part).
Thus, even in parts of the series where there wasn't a story arc, there is often
a feel of continuity due to the character development. I would certainly try
and persuade people to watch the series in order.
Judith
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