From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #61 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/61 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: [B7L] Apology Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W [B7L] page 29-really milking it [B7L] dorks Re: [B7L] oracle of avon Re: [B7L] Re: Vila & Myers-Briggs [B7L] Re: [B7] Vila and the Myers Test Re: [B7L] Apology Re: [B7L] Re: safety Re: [B7L] Re: safety Re: [B7L] Re Countdown: Why Blake stayed on Albian Re: [B7L] Apology Re: [B7L] Re: Safety Re: [B7L] Re: Blake's bodycount Re: [B7L] Re: Safety Re: [B7L] Con weapon rules (was re: Deliverence) [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W [B7L] Re: Temperment Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test Re: [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test Re: [B7L] Vila vs Avon in the lust stakes Re: [B7L] Re: Temperment Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test [B7L] filk [B7L] My test results Re: [B7L] Re: Safety Re: [B7L] Pictures Re: [B7L] Safety [B7L] If you give me your attention, Re: [B7L] Re: body count ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:43:12 -0800 From: Jacquelyn Taylor To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Apology Message-ID: <34F24FE0.3E4E@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tramila wrote: > I've been told that the list is full of INTJ's and INTP's but that there is > not a huge Vila following. Could it be that the Vila fans are in the E's > category like me? (I'm an ESFJ.) > > Is this is the reason that when I ducked and ran in the other post, the 'I' > in Jacquelyn Taylor grabbed on and wanted to play anyway. (Three days > since that post and I am still quivering in fear. I'm just got up for > these deep 'I' discussions. Lurkdom rules in this case.) Tramila, I'm very sorry to have posted what I did with the venom that I did. By no means did I mean to frighten you back into lurking! I'm normally a very nice person. Harmless, even. And Pat Patera knows me and can assure you this is so. Pat? Hello? > Oh and BTW. I am here to stand up for Vila. > because she is truly scared.> Oh now c'mere. Lemme hug you. Y'wuss :-). > Tramila > Chapter Member and Pres of VICE > Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element Jackie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:48:00 -0800 From: Tramila To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980223194800.00d28cc0@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Any thoughts on Avon's preferred type? Sure. Her name is Servalan. > If this were TheOtherList, I know what the response would be :D LOL. Does it start with a "V"? Tramila Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E. Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:50:04 -0800 From: Tramila To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980223195004.006bdca8@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>oh and don't forget ROTFLMAO and YKYBWTMB7W >>he he >'Scuse me if I seem dense here, but could someone let me know what >YKYBWTMB7W means? Not at all Jay, It means.... You Know You've Been Watching Too Much Blake's 7 When...... Tramila ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:39:07 +1100 From: "Roger The Shrubber" To: "B7 Main List" Subject: [B7L] page 29-really milking it Message-Id: <199802240403.PAA16457@budapest.ozonline.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Penny wrote Judith! We are MOCKED! Actually, I like the picture on page 29, as well, but really,Darren, what do *YOU* think happens to the "deep dark enigmatic" mind of a "charismatic revolutionary" when he goes "POP?" I think he makes faces like the picture on page 29. **** Blake, with Vila's assistance, manages to steal a really nifty gadget for Avon to play with. That night - celebrations. The adrenalin & Soma & red wine are flowing freely. With so many people pleased to see him, Blake gets confused, thinks he must be at a convention, slips out of character, and proceeds to get completely tanked. Then gets Avon to send Servie & Travis an email with a scan of page 29 attached. With a MID tune playing "if i said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me". ___________________________________ from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome ! powerplay@cheerful.com ____________________________________ "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp.,1977 ______________________________________ "The Administration is out to get me" _______________________________________ "In the end, winning is the only safety" _________________________________________ "There are times when even confirmed cynics must trust to luck" ________________________________________ Was God an astronaut ? _________________________________________ http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634 Anxiety & Panic _________________________________________ http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634/powerplay.html Blake's 7 FAQ & free screen savers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:50:37 +1100 From: "Roger The Shrubber" To: "B7 Main List" Subject: [B7L] dorks Message-Id: <199802240403.PAA16463@budapest.ozonline.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat & Lorna wrote >Poor Gan isn't even in the same league when it comes to >clever repartee. Of course Avon would either dismiss him or humour him. >The occassional rude remark does slip out; but who among us can help but >be snide on occassion to a dork? I never knew the ability to engage in clever repartee raised one from the ranks of the dorks. Silly me. A character flaw, perhaps. ******* My official scrabble dictionary tells me that DORK means stupid, foolish. While I think that stupid & foolish aren't necessarily synonyms, (you can lack intelligence without doing foolish things), Gan being slow-witted, under-educated , not very good at anything except perhaps defensive unarmed combat , and yes gentle & reliable, well , yes that makes him a dork, well & truly. Unless of course, pre-limiter, he was an axe-murderer or something, which would remove dork status & just make him a sad case. ___________________________________ from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome ! powerplay@cheerful.com ____________________________________ "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp.,1977 ______________________________________ "The Administration is out to get me" _______________________________________ "In the end, winning is the only safety" _________________________________________ "There are times when even confirmed cynics must trust to luck" ________________________________________ Was God an astronaut ? _________________________________________ http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634 Anxiety & Panic _________________________________________ http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2634/powerplay.html Blake's 7 FAQ & free screen savers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:13:38 +1100 From: "Roger The Shrubber" To: "B7 Main List" Subject: Re: [B7L] oracle of avon Message-Id: <199802240404.PAA16486@budapest.ozonline.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julie wrote >>>Brian Croucher is covered under Jan Chappell Now there's a coupling I bet no-one has tried in fan-fic! ****** Travis and Cally ? Well, I guess if she went for our resident man in leather, maybe it's a fetish thing and she could be persuaded to have a fling with old one-eye too .... I doubt the opposing political ideologies would make for a harmonious long term relationship though. ___________________________________ from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome ! powerplay@cheerful.com ____________________________________ "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp.,1977 ______________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:45:47 -0800 From: Helen Krummenacker To: Tramila CC: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Vila & Myers-Briggs Message-ID: <34F2345B.957@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > oh and don't forget ROTFLMAO and YKYBWTMB7W I know up to "Rolling On the Floor Laughing" on the first acronym, and nothing about the second... please explain? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:05:29 -0800 From: Tramila To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: [B7L] Re: [B7] Vila and the Myers Test Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980223200529.00d29170@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Avona wroteL >Vila and Tramila-- can't trust either of them. On pretends to be drunk >to avoid the dirty work, the other pretends to be scared so we all feel >sorry for her. ;^) We're just sleepy people who listen on occassion. > Oh, well, don't go back to lurking. Your posts are so >much funnier than the rest of us INTJ's nit-picking. But I hope that I am not annoying too many people here. >Say, I think you can trust me anround an airlock-- I did score almost as >high for idealist as for rational... course, I think _Avon's_ a closet >idealist, so maybe you shouldn't trust me. :^D Only as much as Vila trusts Avon. LOL. HUGS. Tramila Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E. Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:13:01 -0800 From: Tramila To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Apology Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980223201301.00d3c688@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jackie wrote: >Tramila, I'm very sorry to have posted what I did with the venom that I >did. By no means did I mean to frighten you back into lurking! No apology necessary Jackie. Pat warned me about the B7 group and how they love to debate but I just opened myself up anyway. Can you say that Tramila is not very bright at times. >I'm normally a very nice person. Harmless, even. And Pat Patera knows me and >can assure you this is so. Pat? Hello? I know you are a very nice person Jackie. Pat reminded me who are you. Please not stress about it. You did good. I am now over my shyness with this group and have joined in. I guess I can't say that I'm a lurker anymore. (And BTW, we know each other but I am in full hiding mode and being very closed mouthed about it. I just need to be again from my previous life for the moment so I hope that you and the B7 group can forgive me.) >> Oh and BTW. I am here to stand up for Vila. >> > because she is truly scared.> > >Oh now c'mere. Lemme hug you. Y'wuss :-). Tramila grabs her Vila bear and holds on tight. HUGS Jackie. Friends? Please. I'm sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:16:09 -0000 From: "Tom Forsyth" To: "B7 Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: safety Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brent said (about Orbit): > By the way, if they both die, it isn't pointless. It shows solidarity > and nobility--things the Federation didn't have. Things that Avon > seemingly lost somewhere along the way. Well, it only shows these qualities to each other. You see the problem... Tom Forsyth. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:37:17 -0800 From: Helen Krummenacker To: Judith Proctor CC: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: safety Message-ID: <34F24E7E.4D4C@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Having read most of this thread and joined in fair bit of it (usually on the > opposite side to Helen), I'd say that she's fervent, but not blind. > > As far as I'm aware, she recognises Avon's flaws along with the rest of us. We > don't expect him to be a saint, because he wasn't. He was cynical, pragmatic > and occasionally capable of extreme self-sacrifice. Which of those came to the > fore on any particular occasion depended on many factors. > > If you were one of the few people he was willing to die for (like Anna) then you > were safe anywhere with him (safe in the sense that he would not intentionally > take you into danger and would risk all to get you out of it). If you weren't, > then the risk increased in many different ways. Thank you, and well said. I think those of us who say we'd feel safer with Avon than Blake, have the possibly delusional notion that he will consider us dear to him. "Avona" comes from a fantasy world version of the characters, where Avon and Avona are twins (actually Kerr and Kerrella Avon) who have a magical bond and are as trusting towards each other as they are paranoid about the rest of the world. So I guess that indicates how I like to think we'd get along. :) Realisic? Probably not. On the other hand... "To be totally known, it's like... innocence." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:15:53 -0000 From: "Tom Forsyth" To: "B7 Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re Countdown: Why Blake stayed on Albian Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sondra asked (well, sort of): > As for 4000 miles being a "small distance", I don't buy that. If > the radiation could travel that quickly, we wouldn't have been told that > it would take hours to overspread the planet. (It's not as if it can > teleport, after all. It presumably must rely on air currents to > transport it.) Could it have interfered with teleport pickup of Blake > and Vila? I can't imagine how, but I'll concede the possibility as > falling under the "not negligible" part of the risk. Well, if it's a radiation device of some sort (i.e. a nuke), then one of the things it will do is first emit a massive gamma-ray burst, which can easily disrupt, well, basically everything sensitive to electromagnetic raditation, and that covers a lot of stuff. This is the "EM pulse" that the USSR was rather hoping would knock out our hi-tech planes, and leave their strings-and-glue planes still flying. This is why the USSR was still making military electronics using valves well into the 80s - they can survive EMP pulses, unlike transistors (which fry themselves in the induced currents). Secondly, these gamma rays (and various other facets of exploding nukes, like the neutron and beta radiation) ionise vast quantities of the atmosphere, making things like radio communications completely useless - the whole atmosphere becomes opaque to that sort of signal, and indeed emits tons of static in those bands. So if you're using these sort of EM bands for your teleport, don't expect it to work or pick up anything coherent. Tom Forsyth. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:46:46 -0800 From: Helen Krummenacker To: Tramila CC: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Apology Message-ID: <34F2502A.1826@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > No apology necessary Jackie. Pat warned me about the B7 group and how they > love to debate but I just opened myself up anyway. Can you say that > Tramila is not very bright at times. ::I give an "Avon looking at Tarrant in City at the Edge glare:: Saying in a soft dangerous voice, "No she can't." ;^) Avona ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:47:00 -0800 From: Helen Krummenacker To: Tom.Forsyth@btinternet.com CC: B7 Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Safety Message-ID: <34F24C10.4EB8@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > So, we have some atmosphere, but Avon still tries for orbit. Maybe he > doesn't know how to fly aircraft, just spacecraft (point'n'thrust - dead > simple). He's probably very worried that he hasn't got a clue what sort of > angle he needs to re-enter at for this craft (every craft is different). A > few degrees too much and he'll stall and/or burn up, and few too little and > he'll hit a little too hard and/or burn up. Good point. He nearly got turned into pot-roast in Aftermath. Doesn't want to try it again. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:19:21 -0000 From: "Tom Forsyth" To: "B7 Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Blake's bodycount Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harriet asked, about the wide balls in cricket: > I take it that this is solely in regards to the records book, because > surely if it affected the outcome of the game, a ruling would have long > ago been made. Leaving me to assume that wide balls do not count > against the batsman. Do they count against the bowler? Is he/she > penalized if the wide ball count gets high? A wide counts as a single run on the batting side, but it's an "extra" and not attributed to any particular batsman. So it's not a good idea to bowl wides, because the batsmen can usually spot them fairly easily and get a free run. Getting more than a run a ball is very hard and risky work, so it's a very good idea to leave wides. There's no problem with playing and missing in cricket, by the way. > I'd definitely have to agree with those of you who argued that counting > wides could lead to bowlers into temptation, if a record such as > described above was at stake. I would like to think that the noble > character of sportsmen would prevent that, but then I think of ear > biting, coach choking, and spitting in faces. Well in cricket I think the umpire would probably cotton on pretty fast and have a quiet word with the bowlers. That should be all that is required. I don't know if any clauses of the Law could be applied - I don't know it at all well, but there's probably some catch-all about unsportsmanlike conduct. [and later...] > I then decided we'd never stop talking at cross purposes on this topic, > and started a much more interesting private conversation about cricket. Quite right too. Tom Forsyth. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:20:22 -0000 From: "Tom Forsyth" To: "B7 Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Safety Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Helen K said: > Good one, Jennifer. I will NOT try to defend Avon for not figuring out > there HAD to be a reason the shuttle was so damn heavy. Way before > stripping all the non-essentials that couldn't have weighed THAT much. Well, not necessarily - it might just have been very short on fuel. Avon did manage to move it on his own, so it can't have weighed more than half a ton, and a shuttle with half a ton more machinery on it wouldn't feel any different than a shuttle with rubbish engines. And a shuttle with rubbish engines can still reach orbit, it just burns more fuel for longer - remember that escape velocity is (1) not actually needed for orbit, but complete escape, and (2) decreases as you get further from the planet. You can escape the Earth if you keep up a steady speed of 1 mph upwards, it'll just take huge amounts of fuel. So, they were basically short of fuel, hence the line: EGRORIAN: The shuttle will run out of fuel in twenty minutes from now. > Or, how about landing the flippin' shuttle when they first realized > there was a problem. That would've taken less fuel than maintaining > orbit while doing the jettisons. Well, maybe. Landing a craft softly with no atmosphere takes just as much fuel as getting it off the ground in the first place. However, if there is an atmosphere and you have a nice winged and heat-shielded shuttle, you can do it with very little fuel (just enough to get you to a decent landing site). The Space Shuttle comes in all the way from orbit virtually unpowered. But it does all depend on how dense the atmosphere is of course, and we get no hints about that unfortunately - just its basic composition. Anyway, so if we allow Mr. Boucher the luxury of having very little atmosphere (did we see any signs of weathering on the planet, or any decent clouds or anything else?), then the shuttle is basically going ballistic. So, they only realise their trouble when they are at mach 8*, then they've done most of the work getting to mach 15, so it's a lot easier to actually reach orbit than to turn around and try and land. Only problem is that Egrorian says they'll land at 390knots (about 400mph or 550kph). If there were no atmosphere, the shuttle would not be going slower than the mach 8 they managed. Considerably faster, in fact (e.g. mach 16), so there must be some decent atmosphere. Of course Egrorian's talking complete twaddle when he says that everything apart from Avon and Vila will survive the crash. There's not much that will survive a mach 0.5 hit, even if they land obliquely on soft things, as many an airliner has shown. At mach 0.5, water, marsh and concrete blocks all feel much the same. So, we have some atmosphere, but Avon still tries for orbit. Maybe he doesn't know how to fly aircraft, just spacecraft (point'n'thrust - dead simple). He's probably very worried that he hasn't got a clue what sort of angle he needs to re-enter at for this craft (every craft is different). A few degrees too much and he'll stall and/or burn up, and few too little and he'll hit a little too hard and/or burn up. > IT"S THE SCRIPTWRITERS' FAULT-- yeah, > that's the ticket. > Guess I have to blame the scriptwriters for Blake using the "set up" > line, too. Ok, so Boucher plugged a lot of holes, but left a few the nutter orbital mechanic could re-enter a HOTOL through. Who cares? In my book, Boucher spends most of the episode holding up a big sign saying "THIS IS A CLICHE. But it's got a good payoff, I promise". And it does. So that's alright then. Compared to PGPs where Blake survives, and slash where Avon and Blake get it on, this is rock-hard SF. Anyway, I'm sure you could all tell I have a great deal to do tonight. Busy busy busy, that's me. I've got a real life to get on with, you know - can't stand around gossiping all day. Tom Forsyth. * Note of course that mach numbers have no relevance at all with no atmosphere, since they are simply a measure of how much faster than sound you are travelling. But we'll assume that they've adopted a convenient measure such as 700mph == mach 1, instead of talking all the time about local mach numbers. We can assume this because Orac says that escape velocity is mach 15. We assume he's talking about surface escape velocity, but is that on a warm day or a cold day? The difference can easily be quite large, so he's actually unlikely to be talking about local machs. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:53:20 -0800 From: Julia Jones To: B7-list Subject: Re: [B7L] Con weapon rules (was re: Deliverence) Message-ID: <888296330.205413.0@jajones.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: Reuben Herfindahl > Totally off topic here, but does anyone know where one could get ahold of a > good replica of the gun that the Thals used in Planet of the Daleks or that > appeared on that other Nation show, what was it's name ;-) > Ah, Rueben, a word in your shell-like - it wasn't Nation's show. He had nothing to do with its creation, although his creation of the Daleks when asked to write a script for the second story had a good deal to do with the show's success. That's the second time this week I've seen Dr Who referred to as a Terry Nation show. Where have people been getting this notion from? Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:15:38 +1300 From: Nicola Collie To: B7-list Subject: [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>oh and don't forget ROTFLMAO and YKYBWTMB7W >>>he he > >>'Scuse me if I seem dense here, but could someone let me know what >>YKYBWTMB7W means? > >Not at all Jay, It means.... > >You Know You've Been Watching Too Much Blake's 7 When...... > >Tramila > So, how much is too much? And how does one know? :) YKYBWTMB7W ... your mum rings to ask how you are, and you reply "Down and safe". ... your supervisor asks for a progress report and you say "That information is not currently available". ... your toothpicks are made of colourless perspex. ... you wonder which one of Servalan's costumes would make the best wedding gown. Ooo, eck, time to go home. Before I start getting silly ttfn, Nicola --- Nicola Collie Dunedin, New Zealand nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz "It just occurred to me that, as the description of a highly sophisticated technological achievement, "Avon's gadget works" seems to lack a certain style." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:50:25 -0800 From: Helen Krummenacker To: B7-list Subject: [B7L] Re: Temperment Message-ID: <34F25FA0.435A@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I had Allan (my husband), also a B7 fan take the test. He is a healer, INFP. These descriptions are pretty "on" for us, although I'm not strongly in my type. Some of the things were still dead accurate, like that I don't take charge until others have proven their incompetence. (oh, it sounds so mean to put it that way, but for an INTJ, to see others muck about with a perfectly straightforward project!). Allan's favorite character is VILA! An idealist and Vila? Well, healers are tolerant. Tamarila, another VICE member is here. :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:52:55 -0800 From: Helen Krummenacker To: Nicola Collie CC: B7-list Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test Message-ID: <34F2602B.60C3@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Well, I could do the haircut, I s'pose... > I recently got shorn from armpit length to earlobe length, so even a total > shave Holds No Fears for me now. Not something I could have said > pre-snipsnip. > (can anyone tell that a certain slash authorix (authix?) starting with P is > unduly influencing my writing style? :)) > And I love her wardrobe (well, most of it) but it would look damn silly on > someone of my proportions. I HAVE the haircut (in chestnut brown),the hourglass figure, and the closet full of full-length gowns... Is this a case of "You know you've been wawtching too much Blake's 7?" or just good fashion sense? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:10:19 +1300 From: Nicola Collie To: B7-list Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Any thoughts on Avon's preferred type? > >Sure. Her name is Servalan. Well, I could do the haircut, I s'pose... I recently got shorn from armpit length to earlobe length, so even a total shave Holds No Fears for me now. Not something I could have said pre-snipsnip. (can anyone tell that a certain slash authorix (authix?) starting with P is unduly influencing my writing style? :)) And I love her wardrobe (well, most of it) but it would look damn silly on someone of my proportions. >> If this were TheOtherList, I know what the response would be :D > >LOL. Does it start with a "V"? Can do - although lately it's been more B or G. ttfn, Nicola --- Nicola Collie Dunedin, New Zealand nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz "It just occurred to me that, as the description of a highly sophisticated technological achievement, "Avon's gadget works" seems to lack a certain style." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:37:31 -0800 From: Tramila To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] YKYBWTMB7W Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980223213731.00d3e004@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >So, how much is too much? And how does one know? :) >YKYBWTMB7W >... your mum rings to ask how you are, and you reply "Down and safe". >... your supervisor asks for a progress report and you say "That >information is not currently available". >... your toothpicks are made of colourless perspex. >... you wonder which one of Servalan's costumes would make the best wedding >gown. Oh MY! I think I created a monster. YKYBWTMB7W..... You have a Vila Bear, an Avon bear, a Servalan bear, and thanks to Pat, a Blake bear. Pssssst. The Blake bear is a white hearth rug. Pat says it's dead. which makes it a perfect Blake bear. Tramila, running fast from the B.I.T.C.H.'s. Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E. Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:32:04 -0800 From: Tramila To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980223213204.00d278c4@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >(can anyone tell that a certain slash authorix (authix?) starting with P is >unduly influencing my writing style? :)) P? HUMMMM... How who could that be? >>> If this were TheOtherList, I know what the response would be :D >> >>LOL. Does it start with a "V"? > > >Can do - although lately it's been more B or G. G!!!!! Tramila faints dead away. B is not very tasteful either although I confess to reading it on a rare occassion. Tramila Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E. Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:46:29 -0800 From: Tramila To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila vs Avon in the lust stakes Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980223214629.00d25014@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Avon's sex appeal is not just the leather and snarl... > >But boy do I looooove the leather and snarl (retires to lie down for >a moment). Tramila and Pat break out into a bad rendition of... Studs and Black Leather. Where does one begin? Is it all done with mirrors? Is it glued to the skin? Studs and Leather. Studs and Leather. Shrink to fit Lea....ther. Tramila, letting the Avon side of herself out. Tramila, thinking about Vila in leather duds. Tramila running for the cold shower. Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E. Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:49:19 -0800 From: Tramila To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Temperment Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980223214919.00d3e004@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Allan's favorite character is VILA! An idealist and Vila? Well, healers >are tolerant. Tramila, another VICE member is here. :) YES!!! Welcome Allan to V.I.C.E. Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E. Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element ------------------------------ Date: 24 Feb 1998 07:22:39 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl To: B7-list Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila and the Myers Test Message-ID: Helen Krummenacker writes: > I HAVE the haircut (in chestnut brown),the hourglass figure, and the > closet full of full-length gowns... Is this a case of "You know you've > been wawtching too much Blake's 7?" or just good fashion sense? That depends, I guess. Do you frequently kill those who don't obey you? -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se This posting is protected by a Whizzo Brand Fnord Filter (TM). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:38:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] filk Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII What happens to old fans when they die? I decided this question deserved serious consideration... (Oddly enough, I was using 'gay' in the sense of 'happy' in this particular song, but don't let that stop you taking it the other way if you want to) Inside of a Dream, by Judith Proctor, to the tune of Fiddler's Green. As I walked a convention at dead of the night, To see if a drink could be found before light, I heard an old filk fan a-singing this song, "Won't you take me away girls, my time is not long -" CHORUS Wrap me up in my fancy dress costume, At conventions no more I'll be seen, Just tell my old fan friends, I've gone where it all ends, And I'll see you someday inside of a dream. Now fans share a dream and I've oft' heard them tell, It's a place you can go if you don't to hell, Where Blake is alive and Kerr Avon is gay, And the cares of the real world are far far away - The Feds are defeated and justice restored, And Zen is still there with the crew all on board, There's peace and there's love and there's laughter, by heck, For they still have those arguments on the flight deck - I don't want a harp nor a halo, not me, Just give me the people I saw on TV, And I'll play my old squeeze box as we sail along, With myself and the crew all a-singing this song - PS. You think I'm kidding about the squeeze box...? Methods for locating Judith at a convention - 1. Try dealer's table (in dealers room) 2. Look for Gareth Thomas (in bar) 3. Listen for the concertina (in whatever remote corner of the convention the organisers have decided to stick filkers in this year). PPS. Anyone else bringing any instruments this year? I had a flute for company last time and I think somebody produced a recorder. Enthusiasm counts for more than expertise. Anyone willing to sing the words scores bonus points, especially if my voice goes again. And if you don't know the words, I have some very low-price tapes for sale . -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:51:33 +1000 From: Tim Richards & Narrelle Harris To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] My test results Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980224195133.007b1100@wire.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hmmm... I've come up as an ENFP, which looking at the profile seems to fit in most respects. Certainly seems to explain why I talk so much... :-) Vila was certainly an E type - I've always felt we'd probably get on pretty well, being such sociable creatures. My husband has always said that Vila represents the viewer in the B7 universe: in that, we'd all want to be like Avon (Smart, cynical, in control) but most of us would be just like Vila (scared, dependent,wondering what the hell we're doing here and what's going on). :-) Narrelle ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tim Richards and Narrelle Harris parallax@wire.net.au http://www.wire.net.au/~parallax "Look, he's winding up the watch of his wit; by and by it will strike." - Shakespeare ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:45:34 -0000 From: Alison Page To: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Safety Message-ID: <888313945.2023844.0@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom's post on Orbit was extremely timely as I was just going to ask if anyone could answer all the questions which he promptly answered. You know how it is, you are supposed to be going off to sleep, when suddenly you have the urge to ask Orac about re-entry corridors and the density of methane atmosphere. What was that acronym..YKYHBWTMB7W.. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:36:02 -0500 (EST) From: NWOutsider To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Pictures Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Alison Page wrote: > http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/theorie/paul/blakes7.html This is Paul James's site, with pictures, sound files, and episode reviews. It went up about a month ago (it's been on my links page since the last time I updated so that's an estimate). I don't know what search engines, if any, he's registered with. Sue sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~sclerc/Blakes7.html B.I.T.C.H. "It's not just what I do. It's who I am." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:57:34 -0500 (EST) From: NWOutsider To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Safety Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Tramila wrote: > Tramila peels the false label that Sue placed over the grape label in order to > confusual Pat. Tramila shakes her head. Yelp. She's a B.I.T.C.H. all > right. Fits right into the Blake gang. Sue summons the nice young men in their shining white coats to take Tramila back to Tramila's padded cell at the Home for the Bewildered. > Oh and BTW. I think Pat was referring not only to Space One and Blake but Space One? > Tramila removes Sue's glasses, cleans them thoroughly and puts them back on > her nose. "There. Is that better Sue?" Sue looks at the glasses Tramila has handed her and realizes the source of the problem: Tramila has been viewing the series through two often-refilled shot glasses. > Hugs Sue. (Hope you take this in the fun that it was meant to be taken.) Sue ranks hugs with teddy bears, elves, and crying in fan fic, but compassionately refrains from turning Tramila into a pile of ash. She knows she will probably regret her uncharacteristic niceness later. Sue sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~sclerc/Blakes7.html B.I.T.C.H. "It's not just what I do. It's who I am." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:24:35 +1030 From: "Lindley" To: Subject: [B7L] If you give me your attention, Message-ID: <01bd4123$5bd21f80$3b4c18cb@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you give me your attention, I will tell you what I am: I'm a genuine philanthropist - all other kinds are sham. Each little fault of temper and each social defect In my erring fellow-creatures I endeavour to correct. To all their little weaknesses I open people's eyes; And little plans to snub the self-sufficient I devise; I love my fellow-creatures - I do all the good I can- Yet everybody says I'm such a disagreeable woman! And I can't think why! Having borrowed Gilbert's words to present myself as truly terrifying to those of you who do not yet know me, I'll remark that I prefer to describe myself by his words in my sig . Lindley Louise Earnshaw is back, my dears, after a long bout of physical and mental dehabilitation that made even mucking about on the Net beyond my energies. My health more or less back on its depressingly unenjoyable par, (OK, the girl deserves a whinge) I'm back and raring to talk B7. I hope the proper worship of Soolin has been conducted in my absence... [fran] <> Fran, I am so glad to find you still with the group, and still taking the piss with your usual flair. <> Blasphemy! Too right. He's a slimy, slippery snake (wow, alliteration worthy of a five year old!) and I love him for it. If he wasn't so much of an amusing bastard, he'd just be a nerd with a leather fetish. [Julia Jones] <> Perhaps I'm just a cynic - or an optimist! - but I like to think that Avon's primary concern at this moment was whether the Federation was going to be wading in *his* blood.... <> But, darling, they were all such unattractive, braindead drips! *I* wouldn't have seduced them. I mean, there's a certain appeal in an unthreatening gf, but, really, there are limits. "Assassin" is up there with "Orbit" for my fave episode, because it is so screamingly funny to watch our Macho Men swanning around trying to impress that little miss. Which would you pick - the dashing idiot pilot or the cold intellectual poser? Or the cool, brainy blonde in the background? [Re brave young pilots: "I don't care how many times they go up-diddly-up-up or down-diddly-down-down, they're still gits."] I'd hardly call Avon's treatment of - darn, it's gone, that cute-as-hell Amazon in "Power' - evidence of his morals, or of his honourable actions towards vulnerable wimmin. Yeah, I know, we've had the "Power" debate often enough, but I find the idea of Avon as a model of chivalrous virtue a bit difficult to reconcile with his actual treatment of romantic objects. Bye-bye to you all, with my love, Lindley L.E. Walter-Smith "Just so. The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity, and pluck." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:04:41 -0500 (EST) From: NWOutsider To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: body count Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Carol A. McCoy wrote: > Well, at least you aren't toasting his demise with Boone's Farm. Hell, no. Such an event calls for something in a box. 8-) > I take consolation in the fact that Avon obviously thought more highly > of Tarrant than you do. It must be hard to watch Avon trust Tarrant > over Blake in "Blake" if Rojer Rebel is your favorite character. > I'd probably be in denial if it had gone the other way. Nope, I just see it as more evidence that Avon is indeed at the end of his tether and has lost any ounce of rationality he once laid claim to. 8-) I suppose if I was a Tarrant fan it would really grate that Avon would do literally anything, risk anything, to get to Blake again and again, but can't be bothered to check whether Tarrant survived the crash. Sue sclerc@bgnet.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/~sclerc/Blakes7.html B.I.T.C.H. "It's not just what I do. It's who I am." -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #61 *************************************