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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 90

Today's Topics:
	 [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
	 [B7L] calle's name
	 [B7L] final epitaph
	 Re: [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton and OOPS!
	 Re: [B7L]: Time Line
	 [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton
	 Re: [B7L]: Time Line
	 [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] final epitaph
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] final epitaph
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 [B7L] final epitaph
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
	 [B7L] who sez?
	 Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
	 [B7L] English
	 Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
	 Re: [B7L] who sez?
	 Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
	 Re: [B7L] calle's name
	 [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #89
	 Re: [B7L]: Time Line
	 Re: [B7L]: Time Line
	 Re: [B7L]: Time Line
	 Re: [B7L] who sez?
	 Re: [B7L]: Time Line
	 Re: [B7L] who sez?
	 Re: [B7L] who sez?
	 Re: [B7L] Blake's 7 on DVD?
	 Re: [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton
	 Re: [B7L] Avon
	 Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:47:00 +1000
From: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
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A while ago I had half an idea for a PGP story, and before I start writing
I thought I'd better check if the start of it's already been done...  

Basically at the start it is very clear that Avon is the villain, and walks
off with the soldiers he brought in to bump of Blake and most of the others.

Sound familiar to anyone?


Bill.

- ----------------------------
Bill Billingsley
whb@bha.oz.au

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:36:23 +1100
From: Fran Myers <algemy@ozemail.com.au>
To: B7 <blake7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] calle's name
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> I was called "Mister D...I'm not even going to try to pronounce that"
> a few times while in Texas. This amused me :-)

Okay, Calle, I'll bite - how DO you pronounce it?

My guess is Kal-ee Die-ber-darl, but that's with an Oz accent.

Fran M

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:14:40 +1000
From: "Roger The Shrubber" <darrenro@ozonline.com.au>
To: "B7 Main List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] final epitaph
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After much deliberation, I have decided to post this epitaph, after leaving
it out of my original posting.
 .

Here lies Tarrant
We all hate his guts
I'm really glad that he is dead
And laying in the mud.









___________________________________
from Darren r ..... Comments are welcome !
powerplay@cheerful.com
____________________________________
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their
home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
Corp.,1977

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:30:32 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton and OOPS!
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To the "killing Dr. Plaxton" post I recently replied, "Who?"

Well, you see....I've been rewatching all the episodes lately and just
finished that one when the killing Dr. Plaxton post arrived.   You see the
last words spoken were by Avon and when Dayna asked, "And what about Dr.
Paxton?" Avon said, "Who?" and the episode ended.

Sooooooo..... I just couldn't resist the one word reply.  I should have
added a <g> or a LOL.

Also, I wanted to thank the two who privately wrote to me to explain about
the episode.  It was very appreciated.  Really.  It was.  Aren't people
wonder? It makes me feel warm and fuzzy to think that they tried to help me
and I want to thank you ( you know who you are) here as well as privately.
Thank you.

Tramila

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:35:24 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line
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Julie Horner wrote:
<snip> re: Redemption:
> Although the spooky thing there is that although the storyline seems to
> carry straight on, they all completely change their wardrobe!
there are spookier moments; the time Jenna changed clothes *during
teleport*!!! A feat, indeed.

> Avon is excepted from this comment because I think he _does_ age in the
> series. I don't mean from the point of view of him getting greyer or fatter
> or anything, just that towards the end, the strain and responsibility of
> leadership give him an air of being much older with even more gravitas, if
> that is possible.
Judge Dredd
> Compare his and Vila's actions in 'Gambit' when they ran
> the casino scam with Avon in 4th series, there is no way I can imagine him
> being so frivolous towards the end.
alas, no. Poor, dear Avon. I started watching B7 4th season. When I
began at the beginning, I was amazed at what a baby Avon was. But
certainly, Blake aged over the intervening years, too. Still, I prefer
them both in their later "mad, bad and dangerous to know" stages.
*shivver* ooooooooooh!
> 
> Three years! Wow I did not image that long between Star One and StarDrive.
> Any suggestions where most of the time was spent?
wandering about committing random acts of piracy
chasing derelict ships containing alien eggs
wriggling free of black holes
arranging intimate tete a tetes with Servalan on the sly

>...in fact they probably went several million spatials in the
> wrong direction when Jenna hit that big unlabelled button which made them
> go really fast and pull funny faces.
> 
:D oh, I like this theory! Now I Imagine Blake floundering about trying
to make his way to Cygnus Alpha to free his friends the fellow
prisoners, with Avon baiting him for navigational incompetence all the
way. But perhaps that is because Avon is sabatoging his efforts on the
sly, cuz he distinctly did not want to share the treasure room with a
shipload of crimmos. Perhaps Zen took a nap and let the new renters
figure things out for themselves for awhile. Would have made for an
interesting few months.
Pat P

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:50:02 EST
From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton
Message-ID: <19980324.184342.15151.2.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com>

>Who?


ROTFL!!!!!


Penny
Biology grows on you

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:10:21 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line
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Thank you soooo much Pat!

Now I'm wishing for a fanfic to fill in the gaps of those missing
months.

A>"Blake, I'm sure we've been through this star system before."
B>"You're so smart, you take the helm."
A>"I'm so smart, I'd like to see _Jenna_ do the navigation, since she
_knows_ something about it!"
J>"Finally I get a little credit. Right-o, Jenna takes the Captain's
chair."

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:50:01 EST
From: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Avon
Message-ID: <19980324.184342.15151.1.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com>

PS: Are there any female fans out there who *don't* like Avon?
>
Anyone who admits to this will be hunted down and taken away for
reconditioning therapy by the A.S.S.es


Come and get me.

Penny
Biology grows on you

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:18:16 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: penny_kjelgaard@juno.com
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
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penny_kjelgaard@juno.com wrote:
> 
> PS: Are there any female fans out there who *don't* like Avon?
> >
> Anyone who admits to this will be hunted down and taken away for
> reconditioning therapy by the A.S.S.es
> 
> Come and get me.
> 
> Penny

You're safe, Penny. True bad-A.S.S.es (Avon's Similiar Sychotics) don't
recondition people. They only dismiss you as a fool not worth their time
and get back to their gadgets or pick a quarrel with ORAC.

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:15:42 -0600
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] final epitaph
Message-Id: <199803250336.VAA21060@mail.dallas.net>
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Roger The Shrubber wrote:

>I'm really glad that he is dead
>And laying in the mud.

Laying whom in the mud?

	- Lisa the Grammar Bitch

_____________________________________________________________
Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@mcopn1.dseg.ti.com

Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/
New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:40:20 +1000
From: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980325134020.006a3b40@rabbit>
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At 19:18 24/03/98 -0800, you wrote:
>penny_kjelgaard@juno.com wrote:
>> 
>> PS: Are there any female fans out there who *don't* like Avon?
>> >
>> Anyone who admits to this will be hunted down and taken away for
>> reconditioning therapy by the A.S.S.es
>> 
>> Come and get me.
>> 
>> Penny
>
>You're safe, Penny. True bad-A.S.S.es (Avon's Similiar Sychotics) don't
>recondition people. They only dismiss you as a fool not worth their time
>and get back to their gadgets or pick a quarrel with ORAC.
>

Of course you do realise why Avon was like that:
When you're in front of a computer all day every day, it's rather difficult
not to turn a little psychotic...
..but it's alright.  Most of us can get by quite sanely with a set of
worry-axes...   :-)

The one excuse no boss will reject:
"I'm sorry, I can't come in to work today.  The voices have told me it's
time to polish the guns."


--------------------------------------------------------
The Loch Mess Monster
(occaisionally mistaken as Bill Billingsley)

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:43:36 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980324194336.00b282a4@earthlink.net>
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>> PS: Are there any female fans out there who *don't* like Avon?
>> >
>> Anyone who admits to this will be hunted down and taken away for
>> reconditioning therapy by the A.S.S.es
Penny wrote:
>> Come and get me.
>> 
>> Penny
Avona wrote:
>You're safe, Penny. True bad-A.S.S.es (Avon's Similiar Sychotics) don't
>recondition people. They only dismiss you as a fool not worth their time
>and get back to their gadgets or pick a quarrel with ORAC.

Oh really?  <giggle>

Tramila hooks arms with Vila then raises her eyebrows at the A.S.S.s as she
walks off with her favorite thief, planning the next step in throwing a
monkey wrench into Avon's current gadget all the while knowing that their
cunning will go unnoticed by both Avon and his A.S.S.s. since Avon will be
too distracted by the A.S.S.s to notice.  LOL

Tramila
---------
Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:54:16 +1000
From: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] final epitaph
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980325135416.00693918@rabbit>
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At 21:15 24/03/98 -0600, Lisa Williams wrote:
>Roger The Shrubber wrote:
>
>>I'm really glad that he is dead
>>And laying in the mud.
>
>Laying whom in the mud?

Didn'tcha watch Sand then?   :-)


--------------------------------------------------------
The Loch Mess Monster
(occaisionally mistaken as Bill Billingsley)

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:23:45 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
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Bill, 

Do you post on the Dilbert List of the Day? I could swear I've seen that
exact wording about polishing the guns ...

Helen,
bad-A.S.S. who works with computers, trainees, and nagging people on the
phone (you don't know psychotic until you work for people who insure
military officiers)

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:26:50 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
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Tramila wrote:
> 
> >> PS: Are there any female fans out there who *don't* like Avon?
> >> >
> >> Anyone who admits to this will be hunted down and taken away for
> >> reconditioning therapy by the A.S.S.es
> Penny wrote:
> >> Come and get me.
> >>
> >> Penny
> Avona wrote:
> >You're safe, Penny. True bad-A.S.S.es (Avon's Similiar Sychotics) don't
> >recondition people. They only dismiss you as a fool not worth their time
> >and get back to their gadgets or pick a quarrel with ORAC.
> 
> Oh really?  <giggle>
> 
> Tramila hooks arms with Vila then raises her eyebrows at the A.S.S.s as she
> walks off with her favorite thief, planning the next step in throwing a
> monkey wrench into Avon's current gadget all the while knowing that their
> cunning will go unnoticed by both Avon and his A.S.S.s. since Avon will be
> too distracted by the A.S.S.s to notice.  LOL
> 
> Tramila

Avon does not get distracted by true A.S.S.s. We run our fingers
lovingly over the tools that aren't in use at the moment and gaze at the
electronic diagrams, occaisionally making a comment like, "Don't you
want to use more resistance on that?" or "Can't we incorporate Ensor
cells so you can use ORAC as a remote?"

--Avona

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:10:38 +1000
From: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980325141038.0068e4e8@rabbit>
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At 20:23 24/03/98 -0800, Helen Krummenacker wrote:
>Bill, 
>
>Do you post on the Dilbert List of the Day? I could swear I've seen that
>exact wording about polishing the guns ...
>
>

Actually I haven't heard of Dilbert List of the Day before.  But I heard
the joke somewhere, so maybe it was from someone else who'd read the list.


--------------------------------------------------------
The Loch Mess Monster
(occaisionally mistaken as Bill Billingsley)

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:20:37 +1000
From: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980325142037.006a4bf8@rabbit>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Helen wrote:
> "Can't we incorporate Ensor
>cells so you can use ORAC as a remote?"
>

ISTR it was tariel cells that Orac could access...

(being picky,)
Bill.
--------------------------------------------------------
The Loch Mess Monster
(occaisionally mistaken as Bill Billingsley)

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:50:02 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
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Bill Billingsley wrote:
> 
> Helen wrote:
> > "Can't we incorporate Ensor
> >cells so you can use ORAC as a remote?"
> >
> 
> ISTR it was tariel cells that Orac could access...
> 
Damn! I've got to rewatch these and take notes so the nit-pickers won't
get me.

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:33:18 EST
From: RatterTat <RatterTat@aol.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] final epitaph
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>>I'm really glad that he is dead
>>And laying in the mud.
 
>Lisa the Grammar Bitch wrote:
>Laying whom in the mud?
 
 Probably someone lying supine...face down in the mud.  ;)

Carol K	

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:49:47 EST
From: RatterTat <RatterTat@aol.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
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>> Helen wrote:
>> "Can't we incorporate Ensor cells so you can use ORAC 
>> as a remote?"
 
> Bill (being picky,) said:
> ISTR it was tariel cells that Orac could access...

Well, of course ORAC could access tariel cells, but after the magnificent Avon
administered his genius, ORAC could also access the very sophisticated and
extremely rare Ensor cell.

Carol K
Proud member of the *other* A.S.S. chapter  (Avon's Slavering Slaves)
 
 

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:43:13 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: RatterTat <RatterTat@aol.com>
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-ID: <35189971.223B@jps.net>
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RatterTat wrote:
> 
> >> Helen wrote:
> >> "Can't we incorporate Ensor cells so you can use ORAC
> >> as a remote?"
> 
> > Bill (being picky,) said:
> > ISTR it was tariel cells that Orac could access...
> 
> Well, of course ORAC could access tariel cells, but after the magnificent Avon
> administered his genius, ORAC could also access the very sophisticated and
> extremely rare Ensor cell.
> 
> Carol K
> Proud member of the *other* A.S.S. chapter  (Avon's Slavering Slaves)
Thanks for the save! LOL

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:09:34 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
Message-ID: <3518918E.3188@geocities.com>
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Bill Billingsley wrote: 
> A while ago I had half an idea for a PGP story, and before I start writing
> I thought I'd better check if the start of it's already been done...

Basically, any story idea you could ever envision has already been
done...
The ancient Greeks identified 7 (?) plots and ever since, story has
rehashed these themes over and over again. Yet it's the differences in
character, setting and style that make them new again. So don't worry if
"it's been done." You will do it in a new way.

And if you make Avon *too* bad you may not live to write the sequel.
Pat P

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:04:52 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] who sez?
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Some Avonisms:
1. Happiness is merely the remission of pain.
2.The facts, though interesting, are irrelevant.
3.The world gets a little better every day, and worse in the evening.
4.The careful application of terror is also a form of communication.
5.Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world.
6.Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.
7.Friends may come and go, but enemies tend to accumulate.
8.If you think that there is good in everybody, you haven't met
everybody. 
9.If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to
blame.

and Vilaisms:
1. Indecision is the key to flexibility.
2. Sometimes, too much to drink is not enough.
3. Not one shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is
serious.

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:32:45 +1000 (EST)
From: Gordon & Carol <gcb7@magna.com.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
Message-Id: <199803250532.PAA11089@magna.com.au>
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>Bill Billingsley wrote: 
>> A while ago I had half an idea for a PGP story, and before I start writing
>> I thought I'd better check if the start of it's already been done...

>Basically, any story idea you could ever envision has already been
>done...
>The ancient Greeks identified 7 (?) plots and ever since, story has
>rehashed these themes over and over again. Yet it's the differences in
>character, setting and style that make them new again. So don't worry if
>"it's been done." You will do it in a new way.

>And if you make Avon *too* bad you may not live to write the sequel.
>Pat P


Mind you, you make him a wimp and the same threat applies :-)
Carol.

Semper Fidelis  

Carol "Hondo" Mason            < gcb7@magna.com.au >

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* "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done"?         *
* "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"     *
* "Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film" * 
* "Friends may come and go, but enemies tend to accumlate"        *
* "If you can't convince them, confuse them"                      *
* "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk"     *
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:36:55 +1000 (EST)
From: Gordon & Carol <gcb7@magna.com.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] English
Message-Id: <199803250536.PAA12848@magna.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Whilst the list is quiet, here is a few thought to think on.. Enjoy!!

Carol.

Let's face it -- English is a crazy language!

There's no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor
pine in pineapple.

English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in
France. Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet,
are meat.

We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we
find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square, and a
guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers
don't groce and hammers don't ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth,
why isn't the plural of booth beeth? One goose, two geese. So one
moose, two meese? One index, two indices?

Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend,
that you comb through the annals of history but not a single annal? If
you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them,
what do you call it?

If teachers taught, why didn't preacher praught? If a vegetarian
eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? If you wrote a letter,
perhaps you bote your tongue?

Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to
an asylum for the verbally insane. In what language do people recite
at a play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by ship?

Have noses that run and feet that smell? Park on driveways and drive
on parkways?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise
man and a wise guy are opposites? How can overlook and oversee be
opposites, while quite a lot and quite a few are alike?

How you noticed that we talk about certain things only when they
are absent? Have you ever seen a horseful carriage or a strapful gown?

Met a sung hero or experienced requited love?

Have you ever run into someone who was combobulated, gruntled,
ruly or peccable? And where are all those people who ARE spring
chickens or who would ACTUALLY hurt a fly?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your
house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by
filling out and in which an alarm clock goes off by going on.

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the
creativity of the human race (which, of course, isn't a race at all).

That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the
lights are out, they are invisible. And why, when I wind up my watch,

I start it, but when I wind up this essay, I end it!



Semper Fidelis  

Carol "Hondo" Mason            < gcb7@magna.com.au >

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* "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done"?         *
* "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"     *
* "Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film" * 
* "Friends may come and go, but enemies tend to accumlate"        *
* "If you can't convince them, confuse them"                      *
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:57:03 -0800
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: Gordon & Carol <gcb7@magna.com.au>
CC: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
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> >And if you make Avon *too* bad you may not live to write the sequel.
> >Pat P
> 
> 
> Mind you, you make him a wimp and the same threat applies :-)
> Carol.
And if you _embarrass_ Avon in any way, you'll have all of Avon's fans
after you. ;)
--Avona

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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:40:44 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] who sez?
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>Some Avonisms:
<snip>

>and Vilaisms:
>1. Indecision is the key to flexibility.

Are you sure?  I mean Flexibility could be called rigid if you make a
decision to be rigidly flexible or maybe flexibility is just
that...flexible.  You know....I really don't know if I'm rigidly flexible
or just plain oh everyday fexible.  I like both but I just can't decide
which I like the most.  Hummmm.

>2. Sometimes, too much to drink is not enough.

Especially when Avon tries to toss you out of an air lock.

>3. Not one shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is
serious.

Serious you say?  How can life be serious when we are having all this fun?
Stealing.  Cheating at Space City.  Cheating Blake out of knowing about
that little adventure. Leering at Dayna and later at Soolin.  Serious!
Never....as long as there is Adrenaline and Soma...nothing is serious.  <g>

Tramila

---------
Chapter Member and Pres. of V.I.C.E.
Vila's Intimately Corruptable Element

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:44:08 +1000 (EST)
From: Gordon & Carol <gcb7@magna.com.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
Message-Id: <199803250544.PAA15859@magna.com.au>
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At 09:57 PM 3/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
>> >And if you make Avon *too* bad you may not live to write the sequel.
>> >Pat P
>> 
>> 
>> Mind you, you make him a wimp and the same threat applies :-)
>> Carol.
>And if you _embarrass_ Avon in any way, you'll have all of Avon's fans
>after you. ;)
>--Avona

That could be awfully painful...I can here all the feet running over all the
contintents chasing him from place to place to extract their punishment..
"Quick I saw him over there".....no there he goes, come on ladies, leave no
stone unturned..... I think you should post this under a psued..it sounds safer.
:-)   <VBG>

Carol.





>

Semper Fidelis  

Carol "Hondo" Mason            < gcb7@magna.com.au >

*******************************************************************
* "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done"?         *
* "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"     *
* "Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film" * 
* "Friends may come and go, but enemies tend to accumlate"        *
* "If you can't convince them, confuse them"                      *
* "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk"     *
*******************************************************************

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Date: 25 Mar 1998 08:56:57 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
To: B7 <blake7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] calle's name
Message-ID: <ispvjb9p9y.fsf@godzilla.kiere.ericsson.se>
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Fran Myers <algemy@ozemail.com.au> writes:

> My guess is Kal-ee Die-ber-darl, but that's with an Oz accent.

I'll demonstrate for the aussies at Deliverance and let you ask them
when they return, or something.
-- 
		    Calle Dybedahl, UNIX Sysadmin
       qdtcall@esavionics.se  http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:04:31 -0000
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:52:40 +1100 (EST)
From: werry@netspace.net.au (John Werry)
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line
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Julia wrote:
>>The time in this I always find a bit iffy as follows :-
>>
>>London is a run of the mill old ship. 
>>Liberator is superb.
>>After Blake tells Zen to set course for Cygnus Alpha they get there in a
>>very short time, 
>>remember how amazed they all are at how quickly they have arrived?
>>
>>However, they still get there _after_ the London. This implies that the
>>London had
>>a good start on them - the Liberator must have wallowed about a bit in
>>space
>>before they set their course - in fact they probably went several million
>>spatials in the
>>wrong direction when Jenna hit that big unlabelled button which made them
>>go
>>really fast and pull funny faces.
>
>Ah! Best explanation I've seen yet for that one. They never actually do
>this <insert technobabble that I can't be bothered to look up in the
>script> again, so presumably there was some good reason not to do it
>again, and it took them several months to get back to where they'd been
>using the ordinary "Standard by..." drive.

What gets me is they never pushed this button again - no matter how much
they needed it!!!

Regards: John

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:59:49 -0000
From: Ian Lay <ian@pacific-cc.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, John Werry <werry@netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line
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John wrote:


>>Ah! Best explanation I've seen yet for that one. They never actually do
>>this <insert technobabble that I can't be bothered to look up in the
>>script> again, so presumably there was some good reason not to do it
>>again, and it took them several months to get back to where they'd been
>>using the ordinary "Standard by..." drive.
>
>What gets me is they never pushed this button again - no matter how much
>they needed it!!!
>


If I remember rightly it was Negative Hyperspace.  And Blake said something
about crossing the Anti-matter Interface...

The reason why Liberator took just about the same time to reach Cygnus Alpha
as the London is I think they were travelling at similar speeds.  Blake
tells Zen to get to Cygnus Alpha at Standard Speed when Zen asks for a
speed.  Now as Standard speed is equivalent to time distort 4, it could be
possible that the London is also going Time distort 4.

Now they could have gone faster, but they did want to "follow" the London,
and lets be honest they didn't arrive long after the London arrived.

-------------------------------------------------------------
Ian Lay
///
:-)
\\\
Watford Internet Football Club
ian@pacific-cc.demon.co.uk or
wifc@wfc.net

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:50:49 -0000
From: "Borg, Peter: IEG" <peter.borg@barclayscapital.com>
To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line
Message-ID: <F5717FE0AD18D1118F4200805FFECEB993C7B7@exips0002.itops.ldn.bzwint.com>
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Ian,

Apologies for duplication!

> Ian said:
> 
> If I remember rightly it was Negative Hyperspace.  And Blake said
> something
> about crossing the Anti-matter Interface...
> 
> The reason why Liberator took just about the same time to reach Cygnus
> Alpha
> as the London is I think they were travelling at similar speeds.  Blake
> tells Zen to get to Cygnus Alpha at Standard Speed when Zen asks for a
> speed.  Now as Standard speed is equivalent to time distort 4, it could be
> possible that the London is also going Time distort 4.
> 
> Now they could have gone faster, but they did want to "follow" the London,
> and lets be honest they didn't arrive long after the London arrived.
> 
> I thought Standard was TD6? I could be wrong though.
> 
> Also, supposedly they were about halfway to CA when they got the
> Liberator,
> which means they still had another 4 months to go (ref the comment in TWB
> where someone says it takes 8 months to get there. Yet when they arrived,
> they were all wearing the same clothes as they were when they set course
> for
> CA.........
> 
> Peter.
> 
--MimeMultipartBoundary--

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:52:22 -0800
From: "Jay" <jmcguiga@succeed.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] who sez?
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Pat gave us these wonderful words of wisdom:

> Some Avonisms:
> 1. Happiness is merely the remission of pain.
> 2.The facts, though interesting, are irrelevant.
> 3.The world gets a little better every day, and worse in the evening.
> 4.The careful application of terror is also a form of communication.
> 5.Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world.
> 6.Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.
> 7.Friends may come and go, but enemies tend to accumulate.
> 8.If you think that there is good in everybody, you haven't met
> everybody. 
> 9.If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to
> blame.
> 
10.  Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer.



Jay

100% Avon

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Under that cold exterior beats a heart of pure stone
- Dayna

I have no morals, yet I'm a very moral person
- Voltaire
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:05:18 -0000
From: Ian Lay <ian@pacific-cc.demon.co.uk>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L]: Time Line
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Peter wrote:


>I thought Standard was TD6? I could be wrong though.

The correlation is in the Programme Guide under the Glossary section Speed.
I don't have it at hand, but I'm pretty sure it's TD4 for standard by 1

>
>Also, supposedly they were about halfway to CA when they got the Liberator,
>which means they still had another 4 months to go (ref the comment in TWB
>where someone says it takes 8 months to get there. Yet when they arrived,
>they were all wearing the same clothes as they were when they set course
for
>CA.........

Yeah that always makes me laugh.  They must have been pretty smelly by
then!!

There are obviously a lot of "time" things that the writers never worried
about too much.  they probably didn't expect people nitpick it some much....
ha ha.. they should have known better.

Going back to speed.  Though the programme guide says that STD by 1equals
TD4, I think they never had a set correlation for it.  I believe that it was
Tony Attwood (the guy who wrote the PG) that came up with this best
approximation.  However if this is true, then we have a problem.  We know
(by listening to the programme) that the Liberators top speed is STD by 12
 well I never hear anything higher except when they are being pulled into a
black hole or some other anomoly)

So on Tony Attwoods scale that means that STD by 12 is TD15.  BUT.....in
Hostage we here that the Liberator when it escapes is doing TD20.  Which
would be Stadard by 17...... hhhmmmm. Blooper me thinks.

-------------------------------------------------------------
Ian Lay
///
:-)
\\\
Watford Internet Football Club
ian@pacific-cc.demon.co.uk or
wifc@wfc.net

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:54:11 -0600 (CST)
From: "G. Robbins" <robbins@graceland.edu>
To: Jay <jmcguiga@succeed.net>
cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] who sez?
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980325125104.23110B-100000@inet-ux.graceland.edu>
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On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Jay wrote:

> Pat gave us these wonderful words of wisdom:
> 
> > Some Avonisms:
> > 1. Happiness is merely the remission of pain.
> > 2.The facts, though interesting, are irrelevant.
> > 3.The world gets a little better every day, and worse in the evening.
> > 4.The careful application of terror is also a form of communication.
> > 5.Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world.
> > 6.Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.
> > 7.Friends may come and go, but enemies tend to accumulate.
> > 8.If you think that there is good in everybody, you haven't met
> > everybody. 
> > 9.If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to
> > blame.
> > 
> 10.  Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer.
> 
> 
> 
> Jay
> 
> 100% Avon
> 
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> Under that cold exterior beats a heart of pure stone
> - Dayna
> 
> I have no morals, yet I'm a very moral person
> - Voltaire
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> 
> 

Number ten sounds like something very familiar....from The X-Files,
perhaps?  I think Deep Throat said that, and I remember watching the
episode on video a while back and thought at the time it would be
something that Avon would believe in.

--Grace
"Kerr Avon Is Phat!"

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:03:57 -0800
From: Jay <jmcguiga@succeed.net>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] who sez?
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980325110357.006e911c@succeed.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 12:54 PM 3/25/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Jay wrote:
>
>> Pat gave us these wonderful words of wisdom:
>> 
>> > Some Avonisms:
>> > 1. Happiness is merely the remission of pain.
>> > 2.The facts, though interesting, are irrelevant.
>> > 3.The world gets a little better every day, and worse in the evening.
>> > 4.The careful application of terror is also a form of communication.
>> > 5.Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world.
>> > 6.Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.
>> > 7.Friends may come and go, but enemies tend to accumulate.
>> > 8.If you think that there is good in everybody, you haven't met
>> > everybody. 
>> > 9.If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to
>> > blame.
>> > 
>> 10.  Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer.
>> 
>> 
>> 

>
>Number ten sounds like something very familiar....from The X-Files,
>perhaps?  I think Deep Throat said that, and I remember watching the
>episode on video a while back and thought at the time it would be
>something that Avon would believe in.


I remember reading it in a book somewhere, can't for the life of me
remember what one.  Don't watch the X-Files so I wouldn't know.  

 Jay
 
 100% Avon
 
 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
 Under that cold exterior beats a heart of pure stone
 - Dayna
 I have no morals, yet I'm a very moral person
 - Voltaire
 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:29:32 -0000
From: "Julie Horner" <jihorner@dial.pipex.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake's 7 on DVD?
Message-Id: <199803252027.VAA24338@samantha.lysator.liu.se>
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> From: G.Peck 
> 
> Does anyone know if Fabulous Films have any plans to release Blake's 7
> on DVD? Having already purchased the entire series on BBC video, the
> only way I would repurchase the series is on DVD. By the way is
> 'Spacefall' uncut on the Fabulous Films release?

Dunno - which bit are you looking for? There is certainly more on the 
video than was shown on the UK Gold version e.g. Nova getting killed in the
cavity wall insulation, the unfortunate guard bursting out of the airlock
just before Blake et al went in.

Unfortunately I missed it on the BBC first time round so I am not aware
of any special bits I should be looking out for. Can someone enlighten me?

Julie Horner

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:29:39 -0000
From: "Julie Horner" <jihorner@dial.pipex.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] killing Dr. Plaxton
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From: Tramila 
> Who?

In 'Stardrive' (series 4) she is the scientist who has created a new
super-dooper thingummy which makes spacecraft go like s**t off a shovel.

She is using this marvellous technology to help a bunch of space
punks called Space Rats (I think) make their craft faster than anything.

Avon and the crew get her to fit this gadget to Scorpio. Unfortunately she
is a bit tardy in performing the installation and does not have time to get

out of the way before Avon has to use said thingummy  to escape the
Federation ships - thus killing Dr. Plaxton.

Hard decision but someone had to make it. 

Hope I covered all the relevant points there.

Julie Horner

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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:14:22 +0000
From: Julia Jones <Julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon
Message-ID: <+4vffHAOeVG1EwJz@jajones.demon.co.uk>

In message <19980324.184342.15151.1.Penny_Kjelgaard@juno.com>,
penny_kjelgaard@juno.com writes
>PS: Are there any female fans out there who *don't* like Avon?
>>
>Anyone who admits to this will be hunted down and taken away for
>reconditioning therapy by the A.S.S.es
>
>
>Come and get me.
>
So when's your next con? Just to make things easy for us, you
understand.
-- 
Julia Jones

"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
        The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.

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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:49:46 +1000
From: Bill Billingsley <whb@bha.oz.au>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] PGP Avon as villain
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980326114946.0069ede0@rabbit>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 15:44 25/03/98 +1000, Gordon & Carol wrote:
>At 09:57 PM 3/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>> >And if you make Avon *too* bad you may not live to write the sequel.
>>> >Pat P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mind you, you make him a wimp and the same threat applies :-)
>>> Carol.
>>And if you _embarrass_ Avon in any way, you'll have all of Avon's fans
>>after you. ;)
>>--Avona
>
>That could be awfully painful...I can here all the feet running over all the
>contintents chasing him from place to place to extract their punishment..
>"Quick I saw him over there".....no there he goes, come on ladies, leave no
>stone unturned..... I think you should post this under a psued..it sounds
safer.
>:-)   <VBG>
>

Embarrass him?  Innocent me?  (quietly hiding the pages with Avon, the
moose and the bright pink leotard...)  ;-)
But don't worry.  Tarrant comes of much wose <GDAR from the Tarrant Nostra>

But on a more serious note, what do you do with these pieces of fanfic?
Should I post it here as I write it/ in one big lump at the end/ email it
to someone with a fanfic site/ etc. ?





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The Loch Mess Monster
(occaisionally mistaken as Bill Billingsley)

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