From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #118 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume99/118 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 118 Today's Topics: [B7L] The Last Train [B7L] Australian stereotypes Re: [B7L] Australian stereotypes Re: [B7L] Australian stereotypes/accents Re: [B7L] queries [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Re: [B7L] British stereotypes Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Re: [B7L] British stereotypes Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Re: [B7L] fans and the media ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:52:35 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: [B7L] The Last Train Message-ID: <36FE503D.EEC16B9E@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to the April issue of Cult Times, a new UK series, The Last Train, is due to start on ITV on Thurdays at 9pm from 8 April. The reason I mention it is that it seems to have more than a passing resemblance to Terry Nation's Survivors, except that instead of a plague wiping out most of the population it's an asteroid (presumably cashing in on last year's blockbuster movies). It is set round Sheffield and focuses on a group of survivors who were on a train at the time, hence the title. -- cheers Steve Rogerson "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" Star Wars ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:57:18 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Australian stereotypes Message-ID: <19990328225718.2889.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain Tom wrote: >but I have a fairly passable Strine accent when I >want (that's what they speak down under, BTW). <grin> Not all of us, mate! People keep asking me if I'm English; mainly, I think, those with no contact with the real thing. They'd know the difference otherwise. Regards Joanne Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:14:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Carol & Gordon Burgess <storm@catchnet.com.au> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Australian stereotypes Message-ID: <36FD745800000369@base.catchnet.com.au> (added by base.catchnet.com.au) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:57 PM 3/28/99 PST, you wrote: >Tom wrote: >but I have a fairly passable Strine accent when I >>want (that's what they speak down under, BTW). > ><grin> Not all of us, mate! People keep asking me if I'm English; >mainly, I think, those with no contact with the real thing. They'd know >the difference otherwise. > >Regards >Joanne And I was born in Devonshire my father was from Northumberland my mother was from Yorkshire so I had three different accents to influence me growing up, apart from the liberal dose of Aussie slang I picked up whilst by being educated out here.. So my accent is a hodge podge of all of the above .. and now I am married to a Scot, whose mother has a very broad Glasgwegian accent and the odd word or phrase is now creeping in as well.. :-) Carol 'Hondo' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:45:32 EST From: SupeStud00@aol.com To: storm@catchnet.com.au, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Australian stereotypes/accents Message-ID: <c8a9c75d.36febf1c@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/28/99 6:15:57 PM EST, storm@catchnet.com.au writes: << And I was born in Devonshire my father was from Northumberland my mother was from Yorkshire so I had three different accents to influence me growing up, apart from the liberal dose of Aussie slang I picked up whilst by being educated out here.. So my accent is a hodge podge of all of the above .. and now I am married to a Scot, whose mother has a very broad Glasgwegian accent and the odd word or phrase is now creeping in as well.. :-) >> I have a southern Louisiana accent and every woman I know thinks it is sexy. www.angelfire.com/sd/thestud ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:34:15 -0800 From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com> To: B7 Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] queries Message-ID: <36FEE6A7.9E9E3C1B@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lisa Williams wrote: > >- the hero and villain of 'the Prisoner of Zenda' > Rudolf Rassendyll and Rupert of Hentzau. > >- the actor who plays a couple of parts including Egrorian > > John Savident. I am constantly impressed by the anal retentive level of erudition of this list. Are we a bunch of over educated pver detailed INTJ/Ps or what? <snort> not <bounce> Firmly grounded in reality <chortle> Pat P <does not giggle> P.S. Paul Darrow's real name (a game that ended all too soon *bawl*) (Oh Leah, couldn't you have let us speculate a few days longer?) Is it: Rudolf Rassendyll? ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:31:28 -0700 From: Penny Dreadful <egomoo@mail.geocities.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990328203128.007c1e40@mail.geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Available for your perusal at: http://members.tripod.com/~Penny_Dreadful/fr35.html Inspired by Jacqueline, Vice-High-Priestess of FINALACT (Reincorporated). No nudity, I swear. I should also note that I inadvertently sent Flat Robin 39 dated May 8, 1997. --Penny "Tempus Fugitive" Dreadful ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:48:26 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Message-ID: <19990329034827.6896.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain >Available for your perusal at: >http://members.tripod.com/~Penny_Dreadful/fr35.html >Inspired by Jacqueline, Vice-High-Priestess of FINALACT >(Reincorporated). >No nudity, I swear. Not bad at all. I'm particularly amused by Travis's dancing partner on the page linked to that one <grin> Is that going to be an illustration to another instalment of this epic? Regards Joanne Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:04:13 -0700 From: Penny Dreadful <egomoo@mail.geocities.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990329010413.00796100@mail.geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:48 PM 3/28/99 PST, Joanne MacQueen wrote: >I'm particularly amused by Travis's dancing partner on >the page linked to that one <grin> Is that going to be an illustration >to another instalment of this epic? Um...ah... [After a lengthy struggle a la 'They Live', Penny flicks the little Devil-Penny off her left shoulder and steps on it] ...No. Definitely not. No. Oddly enough (or not) though, that picture did have its genesis in the same godawful romance novel that spawned the Flat Robin's 'Bastard "The Bastard" Fitzrogers'. I wonder if the author is aware of what he/she/it hath wrought. --Penny "The Angel" FitzDreadful ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:36:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Una McCormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk> To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] British stereotypes Message-ID: <Pine.PCW.3.96.990329113434.6623L-100000@umm-pc.jims.cam.ac.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tom and Louise's revelations have left me in shock. I have never heard either of you speak anything other than RP!! Which just goes to prove Iain's point, I suppose. Two more years, and you will be one of us, Iain.., Actually, I wonder how much my accent has changed, really. I was always laughed at at school for enunciating swear words fully. And my vowels are still pretty flat - no 'barth' and 'grarss' round here. Una ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 03:36:51 PST From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Message-ID: <19990329113652.22738.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain Thank you so much Penny, I really really REALLY didn't need to see Travis like that. I shall dream horrible dreams tonight... PS - I *looovved* it... Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:09:55 EST From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Message-ID: <8366b1bf.36ff6d93@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Penny wrote: > Available for your perusal at: > > http://members.tripod.com/~Penny_Dreadful/fr35.html It's stunning! <g> And now we know the true source of our favorite psychopathic space commander's negative feelings. It wasn't Blake that had him so uptight. He was jealous of Servalan's wardrobe. ;) Seriously, there's some great art there, Penny. My favorite is Travis with the red background; it's gorgeous. I hope you're sharing your talents with zine editors. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:48:29 +0100 (BST) From: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk> To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] British stereotypes Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.96.990329144043.27761A-100000@bsauasc> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Una McCormack wrote: > Tom and Louise's revelations have left me in shock. I have never heard > either of you speak anything other than RP!! Which just goes to prove > Iain's point, I suppose. Two more years, and you will be one of us, > Iain.., Naah, that won't happen. The Scots accent has enough good and useful aspects that I have plenty of incentive to retain it. Folk round here who've met me might be surprised to hear this, but my accent does in fact get broader when I go home. In England I do at least try to make an effort to slow down and lengthen my vowels. It is my contention that people from different countries have different speeds in their linguistic processors. You could construct a continuum, with Scots near one end, Americans near the other and English regions at various points in between. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:29:13 -0500 From: "Kimberly D. Ashford" <thesseli@msn.com> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> Subject: Re: [B7L] Illustration for Flat Robin 35 Message-ID: <079741031151d39CPIMSSMTPU03@email.msn.com> My eyes! My eyes! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:23:55 -0700 From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] fans and the media Message-ID: <19990327.003646.12542.2.Rilliara@juno.com> On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:05:28 EST VulcanXYZ@aol.com writes: >Una said: > ><< Yet many TVSF fandoms have a high female component (B7, Star Trek - >I >think). This has to be significant. > > These are all societal explanations, of course. We haven't even >touched on > the individual psychological reasons of why it is we do what we do!! >>> > >I think many women feel cutoff from the world, rather isolated. >Perhaps this >comes from all of those years when most women stayed at home with the >children >and were basically cut off from other adults. Today, although it is >commonplace to find women in the workplace, this feeling of isolation >continues. Although there are more opportunities to interact with >others at >work, often the competition and jealousy and politics of the job get >in the >way of making true contact. Interesting idea, but I'm not sure if I entirely agree. While the few studies I've read say the average stay at home mom feels isolated, they also say this is a recent trend, caused precisely because there are so few other stay at home moms for them to interact with. Everything else I've read points to women having larger social networks than men and to their having had larger and more solid networks in the not to distant past. However, it may be precisely because women tend to be more social that they're more likely to organize get togethers with large groups that share a common interest with them. Ellynne ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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