From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #12 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: <blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se> archive/volume99/12 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 12 Today's Topics: Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #308 Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #301 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:19:53 GMT From: "Dita Stanistraken" <d.stanistraken@dundee.ac.uk> To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #308 Message-Id: <E0zzdXZ-00021m-02@pp.dundee.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:18:19 +0100 (MET) > From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se > Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #308 > To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se > Reply-to: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > ------------------------------ > > Content-Type: text/plain > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 308 > > Today's Topics: > [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Re: [B7L] Travis has three faces > RE: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Re: [B7L] Sula, Servalan, Augustus and cornflakes > [B7L] Re: Travis has three faces > [B7L] Piracy > [B7L] Guards! Guards! at Darlington Civic Theatre > Re: [B7L] Re: Travis has three faces > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 13:45:09 PST > From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com> > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Message-ID: <19981213214509.17462.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > Mad Avon, Toothy Tarrant, Sexy Soolin, Daring Dayna and > Controlled > substance abusing Vila. > > <chortle> > > Pat, what happened to the alliteration? You went so well in the middle > of the set. But it provided a good start to my Monday morning.<grin> > Just like the cereal producers claim! Pity I hate that stuff (goes soggy > on me, and then I can't bring myself to eat it), because I'd be happy to > collect the set. > > [<whisper> although I think there might be some people who'd look for a > collection solely made of Tarrants, or Avons. never mind] > > So how would the rest of the characters be advertised - Caring Cally, > Brave Blake? Suggestions, anyone? > > Regards > Joanne > > Impressed as she was by the World Wide Web, Ann couldn't help wondering > about the World Wide Spider. > --caption, Judy Horacek cartoon. > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:18:50 PST > From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com> > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Message-ID: <19981213231851.5015.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >So how would the rest of the characters be advertised - Caring Cally, > >Brave Blake? Suggestions, anyone? > > > >Regards > >Joanne > > > I want a Scary Servie and Twisted Travis (collect all two). Oh, and a > Jealous Jenna. > > --Penny "Cough Syrup Makes It All Seem Even Funnier" Dreadful > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:01:40 PST > From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com> > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Message-ID: <19981214040140.4043.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > I myself said: > > >I want a Scary Servie and Twisted Travis (collect all two). > > No: Sneaky Serpent Servalan and Tacky Traitor Travis; Gallant Gormless > Gallumphing Gan and Avaricious Avon. > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:25:39 +0100 (BST) > From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> > To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> > Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis has three faces > Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1213172539-06cRr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > On Sun 13 Dec, Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001 wrote: > > 1980 Blake's 7 annual, published by IPC. > > Why is Travis a guy with a goatee and no obvious cybernetic attachments? > > Probably because the artists lived overseas and had hardly any reference > pictures. You'll find the same few character costumes crop up again and again, > even when they were no longer being worn on screen. > > I'd bet that they simply didn't known what he looked like. (They usually get > his rank wrong in the annuals) > > It's interesting to consider the impact Travis had on the series. He did a lot > of the dirty work which allowed Servalan to get things done without having her > hands personally dirty. > > One of the things I have always like about the series is its many shades of > grey. When Travis is first introduced, one of Servalan's aides says that he > would never serve under Travis because of the man's reputation as a butcher. > Even Federation officers have a conscience as was shown in several episodes. > > Yet in spite of his reputation he was still able to continue with Servalan's > backing. 'Trial' shows us the double standards of the military. Travis's > speech in his defence is wonderful. Did the Federation make him what he was? > Was he completely a product of his training? How much of his desire for revenge > against Blake was genuine and how much was it fostered by Servalan for her own > ends? (I can imagine a situation where some low-level mind manipulation was > used on Travis to exacerbate that hatred.) > > Did Travis have a conscience? Yes, I think he did. He regretted Maryatt's > death (in 'Deliverance') even though he did nothing to prevent it. In fact, > that says more about his obsession than anything else. He was willing to > sacrifice the man who had saved his life in order to get at the man who had > disfigured him. That seems beyond obsession - why should he have become so > extreme? Did he have other grudges against rebels? Was it mind manipulation? > or was it simply the nursing of a long grudge that grew deeper and stronger > every time Blake defeated him? > > Judith > -- > http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > > Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:32:35 +-100 > From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl> > To: "blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> > Subject: RE: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Message-ID: <01BE274D.11336AE0@cmg71700449> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Penny Dreadful said: > > >I want a Scary Servie and Twisted Travis (collect all two). > > >No: Sneaky Serpent Servalan and Tacky Traitor Travis; Gallant >Gormless > >Gallumphing Gan and Avaricious Avon. > > Oooh, me too, me too, me too! Please somebody tell me where I can get them! > > Drooling Jacqueline (couldn't think of anything that started with a "J".) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:42:07 PST > From: "Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com> > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co. > Message-ID: <19981214094207.4067.qmail@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Penny "Spock on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays" Dreadful: > > >No: Sneaky Serpent Servalan and Tacky Traitor Travis; Gallant > >Gormless Gallumphing Gan and Avaricious Avon. > > Obnoxious Orifice Orac? > Simpering Servile Slave? > > Bugger it, can't think of one for Zen. Anyone got a dictionary? > > -- Rob > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:46:42 +0000 (GMT) > From: Una McCormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk> > To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> > Subject: Re: [B7L] Sula, Servalan, Augustus and cornflakes > Message-ID: <Pine.PCW.3.96.981214114225.14095B-100000@umm-pc.jims.cam.ac.uk> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Pat said: > > >Or what if Sulu's coup had succeeded? A worse overlord than Servalan? > > And how would Avon have taken it?!? > > > > Rob said: > > >The power struggle between Servalan, the old president and the High > >Council is one of the most absorbing threads in B7. It is much bigger, > >and much more important, than anything Blake and his rabble get up to. > > Ooh, yes, I realy agree. I love stories that focus on this sort of thing. > Really puts Blake's activities into perspective. Focusing on the real > power. All the Sula/Servalan exchanges in 'Rumours' take on really > interesting undertones if you read them in this sort of context. > > > Una > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:43:07 EST > From: Tigerm1019@aol.com > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Re: Travis has three faces > Message-ID: <a3252759.36754e2b@aol.com> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 98-12-14 02:20:32 EST, Judith wrote: > > << It's interesting to consider the impact Travis had on the series. He did a > lot > of the dirty work which allowed Servalan to get things done without having > her > hands personally dirty.>> > > I agree. I think he was instrumental in her rise to the presidency. Part of > what might have handicapped Servalan a little in the third and fourth series > was that she had to do her own dirty work and had more difficulty blaming > things on someone else. This may have been part of what led to the coup in > "Rumours of Death." > > <<One of the things I have always like about the series is its many shades of > grey. When Travis is first introduced, one of Servalan's aides says that he > would never serve under Travis because of the man's reputation as a butcher. > Even Federation officers have a conscience as was shown in several > episodes.>> > > Very true. However, in "Trial" Par said that Travis was a commander who > didn't waste his men's lives. Also, he did show some compassion for Docholli > in "Gambit." I think Travis just kind of lost it when it came to rebels or > suspected rebels. > > <<Yet in spite of his reputation he was still able to continue with > Servalan's > backing. 'Trial' shows us the double standards of the military. Travis's > speech in his defence is wonderful. Did the Federation make him what he was? > Was he completely a product of his training? How much of his desire for > revenge > against Blake was genuine and how much was it fostered by Servalan for her > own > ends? (I can imagine a situation where some low-level mind manipulation was > used on Travis to exacerbate that hatred.) > > Did Travis have a conscience? Yes, I think he did. He regretted Maryatt's > death (in 'Deliverance') even though he did nothing to prevent it. In fact, > that says more about his obsession than anything else. He was willing to > sacrifice the man who had saved his life in order to get at the man who had > disfigured him. That seems beyond obsession - why should he have become so > extreme? Did he have other grudges against rebels? Was it mind > manipulation? > or was it simply the nursing of a long grudge that grew deeper and stronger > every time Blake defeated him?>> > > I think Travis' psychosis was focused on rebels in general and Blake in > particular. I also think it got progressively worse over time and that > Servalan did have something to do with that. Some of his desire for revenge > was undoubtedly genuine, but I also think Servalan had it magnified for her > own ends. Maybe something was done to his mind while he was recovering from > his injuries. Travis is a ruthless man, but not without compassion or > conscience. I also think he started going off the deep end before Servalan > betrayed him in "Trial." It's also very possible that he had other grudges as > well. Some rebel groups may have been very destructive and cost a lot of > troopers' lives. > > Tiger M > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:56:27 EST > From: Tigerm1019@aol.com > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Piracy > Message-ID: <f433d8db.3675514b@aol.com> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > A while back, there was a thread about the kairopan stunt in "Harvest of > Kairos" and several people claimed that it was merely piracy. I agree that it > was piracy, but I think there was more to it than that. By stealing the > kairopan, Tarrant and the Liberator crew would have been hitting the > Federation in a place where it would really hurt: the bank balance. It takes > money to run a government, and from the looks of things, the Federation was > pretty shaky at that point. The loss of several billion credits worth of a > valuable resource would have had to hurt. Also, the scam almost worked. If > Tarrant had not been up against an opponent who knew him very well (his former > commanding officer), it probably would have. > > I was also thinking of the similarity between the Liberator crew and a pirate > crew. In a typical pirate crew, the captain was only in command during > battle. In all other circumstances, the boatswain was in charge, and all the > crew members had a vote on important issues. I did notice that in many > battles, Tarrant was giving the orders. > > Tiger M > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:43:56 +0000 > From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk> > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Guards! Guards! at Darlington Civic Theatre > Message-ID: <iMpsFGAsxVd2Ew9h@jajones.demon.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by samantha.lysator.liu.se id IAA07627 > > Just received the Darlington Civic Theatre programme for the spring > season: > > > Mon 22 - Sat 27 February > Evenings: Mon-Thurs 7:30pm, Fri at 6 pm and 9pm, > Sat at 5pm and 8pm > > Terry Pratchett's Guards! Guards! > Adapted for the stage by Geoffrey Cush > > "Quite literally, an explosion of laughter." Newcastle Evening Chronicle > > Paul Darrow hangs up the black leather of Avon from TV's Blake's Seven > and exchanges it for the breast-plated buffoonery of Captain Vimes. The > convoluted plot centres on a police style watch in the city of Ankh- > Morpork and Darrow delights the audience as he switches from comic drunk > to hard nosed cop. > > Along the way there's an orangutan librarian who only communicates using > charades; a six foot dwarf called Carrot and characters like Death with > a comedy routine for every person incinerated by a marauding dragon! > > Tickets: =A35, =A310, =A312.50, =A314.50 > Fri at 6pm: all seats =A310 > > Discounts: Senior Citizen, JSA holders, Parties 10+ =A32 off > (discounts do not apply to restricted view, Friday at 6pm & 9pm and > Saturday at 8pm). > > Drama discount: See 4 of the 6 plays this season and save 30%. > Top two tickets only. No other discount applies > Opening Night - 20% off top two ticket prices only (no other discount > applies) > > Friends Reception - Monday 22 February > > > There's also a nice photo of Lady Sybil and Errol. > > --=20 > Julia Jones > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:35:07 +0100 (BST) > From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> > To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> > Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Travis has three faces > Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1214203507-199Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > On Mon 14 Dec, Tigerm1019@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 98-12-14 02:20:32 EST, Judith wrote: > > > > << It's interesting to consider the impact Travis had on the series. He did a > > lot > > of the dirty work which allowed Servalan to get things done without having > > her > > hands personally dirty.>> > > > > I agree. I think he was instrumental in her rise to the presidency. Part of > > what might have handicapped Servalan a little in the third and fourth series > > was that she had to do her own dirty work and had more difficulty blaming > > things on someone else. This may have been part of what led to the coup in > > "Rumours of Death." > > I disagree there. I think Servalan became president because she was Supreme > Commander of the space force at the time of the Andromedan invasion. She felt > that powerful central control was needed to fight the alien threat, siezed power > and never looke back. All Travis did to aid that process was to encourage the > aliens to invade! > > Travis may have helped her in many ways, but I think the coup would have been > successful anyway. I agree that she might have found a dedicated henchman > useful in season 3 where she was weakened by pursuing Liberator personally > (which says a lot about the sad state of he space force that she was willing to > risk so much to gain Liberator), but Travis was particularly fanatic where Blake > was concerned. Would that dedication have been as strong when Avon was > commanding Liberator? > > > > > <<One of the things I have always like about the series is its many shades of > > grey. When Travis is first introduced, one of Servalan's aides says that he > > would never serve under Travis because of the man's reputation as a butcher. > > Even Federation officers have a conscience as was shown in several > > episodes.>> > > > > Very true. However, in "Trial" Par said that Travis was a commander who > > didn't waste his men's lives. Also, he did show some compassion for Docholli > > in "Gambit." I think Travis just kind of lost it when it came to rebels or > > suspected rebels. > > That's quite possible. The people who were massacred may have meant no more to > him than Jews did to Hitler, but his own men were people like him. Travis, I > think, came up through the ranks and this may have given him a natural desire to > protect the interests of the troopers. He would have felt that he had something > in common with them and perhaps have had a certain mistrust of high ranking > officers. Witness his early insolence towards Servalan. > > > I think Travis' psychosis was focused on rebels in general and Blake in > > particular. I also think it got progressively worse over time and that > > Servalan did have something to do with that. Some of his desire for revenge > > was undoubtedly genuine, but I also think Servalan had it magnified for her > > own ends. Maybe something was done to his mind while he was recovering from > > his injuries. > > There's an interesting comment in 'Weapon' where Travis refers to his visits to > the 'retraining therapist'. What's that about? Did it involve some kind of > mental manipulation. On days when I'm treating the two Travisis as separate > individuals (which I do occasionally for purposes of writing a story) then I > assume that the 'retraining' was to make the second man believe that he was the > first as this is the first episode in which Brian Croucher appears. The first > Travis became unstable or died in a fight or accident (or Servalan had him > killed). Brain prints are a given technology in Blake's 7, as is memory > adjustment, so it woud not be impossible to create a second Travis. The fact > that Servalan used the first Blake clone to test Travis is also indicative. Why > test unless you have a reason to? And what was the involvement of the > clonemasters? Did they create the second Travis as well as the Blake clones? > > > Travis is a ruthless man, but not without compassion or conscience. I also > > think he started going off the deep end before Servalan betrayed him in > > "Trial." It's also very possible that he had other grudges as well. Some > > rebel groups may have been very destructive and cost a lot of troopers' lives. > > Yes, he was under a lot of pressure before then. He says at one point that he > could have defeated the rebels several times if it was not for Servalan's > insistance that Liberator be taken intact. Some times Blake outwitted him (as > in Seek Locate Destroy), but other times Travis had plain bad luck. The ploy in > Project Avalon should have worked. > > As far as studying character goes, what does 'Duel' tell us about Travis? > > Judith > > -- > http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > > Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > -------------------------------- > End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #308 > ************************************** > Dita, President and Supreme Commander of the Terran Federation. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:18:56 GMT From: "Dita Stanistraken" <d.stanistraken@dundee.ac.uk> To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #301 Message-Id: <E0zzdWZ-00020l-01@pp.dundee.ac.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 19:21:52 +0100 (MET) > From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se > Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #301 > To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se > Reply-to: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > ------------------------------ > > Content-Type: text/plain > > blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 301 > > Today's Topics: > Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 > Re: [B7L] Languages > Re: [B7L] Cally's telepathic powers > [B7L] Messing around in Sussex > [B7L] Gotcha all. > [B7L] Redemption > Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 > [B7L] Horizon Newsflash - 6/12/98 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:10:22 -0000 > From: "Fifitrix" <fifitrix@dial.pipex.com> > To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> > Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 > Message-ID: <01be1fa0$98b0bae0$1b649384@fms01963.unichem.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > >> << > What do you mean "shagging Robert Beltran?" > >> > >> << "Having extramarital sex with">> > >> > >> Is there proof of this? > > > >Do you expect me to have taken pictures? > > > > Yes. > > Fifitrix > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:29:53 EST > From: Tigerm1019@aol.com > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Languages > Message-ID: <f419325f.36680e01@aol.com> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 98-11-29 15:11:35 EST, Judith wrote: > > << Might underground religious movements in Federation times have kept old > languages? Hebrew for example? > > A 'dead' language actually has some uses. They allow communication in a form > that isn't easy to follow. Yes, computers can translate (though with > variable > accuracy at the present time), but your trooper on the ground isn't going to > understand. > > A language is a focus of identity for many people. I can imagine the > Federation > trying to stamp out small localised languages simply because they encourage > independence. They promote different ways of thought. Some ideas can > actually > be better expressed in one language than in another. >> > > I find this very plausible. I could see underground ethnic and religious > movements on the outer worlds trying to preserve their languages both as a way > to keep their identity and as a code their enemies don't understand. For this > purpose, a language has a big advantage over a mathematical or alphabetical > code because it is a complex system not based on logic. Thus, it is much > harder to crack. computers can translate, but they have to have a database > of the original language to work from and even then errors are common. Also, > what if the words in the language are themselves code for other things (like > the Navajo code-talkers in WW II), in effect a code within a code. Even if > the Federation managed to translate the language with no errors, they would > still have to crack the inner code. > > BTW, I have heard that English is one of the hardest languages in the world > for non-native speakers to learn because it incorporates elements of so many > other languages, has a huge vocabulary, and an extremely inconsistent > grammatical structure. My experience with immigrants who arrived in the U.S. > speaking no English tends to support this. I'd be happy to discuss this on > the spin list. > > Tiger M > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:10:05 EST > From: Tigerm1019@aol.com > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Cally's telepathic powers > Message-ID: <e0cfcdcf.3668176d@aol.com> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 98-12-04 08:41:17 EST, D. Rose wrote: > > << The telepathy bit with non-Aurons is one reason I think the Auronar are an > early break-away colony from Earth, rather than truly alien. the fact that > humans such as Vila seem to occasionally "transmit" telepathically seems to > indicate that whatever causes telepathy is present in humankind. Presumably a > genetic link. The Auron could simply be a group of colonists who were > selected > for their telepathic potential, and managed to realize it in isolation. The > cloning process developed on Auron seems to have triggered the full potential > of the genes. >> > > I agree. It also explains why Tarrant and Avon were susceptible to the plague > that Servalan unleashed and why they had the same symptoms the Auronar had. > Even in species as closely related as humans and chimps there are often > differences in disease susceptibility and the effects a particular disease > will have. I tend to think of the Auronar as a subspecies of human, rather > like dogs and wolves. > > Tiger M > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:40:52 +0100 > From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> > To: Space City <space-city@world.std.com>, Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> > Subject: [B7L] Messing around in Sussex > Message-ID: <36681092.7631AEF0@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > OK here's my report of our day at the place with the long name beginning > with H. > > For those not sure what I am talking about, the BBC was planning to show > a Blake's 7 episode as part of its Over the Moon series on its new > digital channel BBC Choice in mid-January and it wanted to interview > some fans about it to go with the show. The filming was done on Monday > and I was there. > > Fifitrix drove Jenni and I down to this place in Sussex, which used to > be the Royal Observatory before it was moved to Greenwich. Despite one > wrong turn (due to naff navigating by me - back seat drivers eh), we > soon knew we were on the right road when we spotted the large white > domed shaped telescope. "Follow that tit," said Jenni, and we did to > find it was backed by a number of smaller green tits, including the one > astronomer Patrick Moore used to map the moon many years ago. Patrick > Moore was there as he was fronting the programme. Fifitrix got him to > sign a poster of Neptune, though we thought the five moons or Uranus > would have been more apt. > > The first thing we found out was that the programme wasn't on the early > Jan schedule, so we were told late January or early Feb. As we were the > first there we got to do our interviews first. Fifitrix was first up on > the walkway around one of the green tits, with Jenni and I giggling > behind the combined cameraman and interviewer Ralph Lee. Because of a > weather change, she was the only one to be filmed in sunshine. I was > next, and he asked me about fan fiction and portrayal of relationships > in such. "How far do they go?" he asked. "As far as possible," I > replied, and refused to be drawn further. > > Jenni had problems with her bit cos the silver Avon top kept rustling > the hidden microphone, but it was finished in the end and we all went > back to the canteen for some lunch. Other fans arrived and were taken > out for their interviews, including Judith Proctor from these lists. > > Three Federation trooper outfits arrived and I ended up wearing one as > we were filmed patrolling the tits and running across the site to arrest > Jenni. Great fun. The rest of the fans were told to keep quiet while > they were filming, but we heard you all laugh when we crashed into each > other. You trying running around a wet field with restricted vision in > boots at least one size too big. Jenni no doubt will post the comment > about my swinging arm. > > Ralph told us the episode they are going to show is The Web, which met > with groans from us all and we suggested he pick something else, > preferably with Travis and Servalan in as it will give a better feel of > the nature of the show, so fingers crossed. > > Finally bad news. I rang my cable provider today and was told no digital > until spring, so I'll miss the show. If anyone is planning on taping it > please let me know so I can borrow it. We will try to get a copy to show > at Redemption as well. > -- > cheers > Steve Rogerson > > Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell" > Star Wars > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:59:19 -0000 > From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk> > To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se> > Subject: [B7L] Gotcha all. > Message-Id: <199812042004.UAA09386@gnasher.sol.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > \ | / > \\ \ | | / // // > \\\ \\ // /// /// > \\\ #########/// /// > ### ### /// > -- ## ## -- > -- ## squish!! ## -- > //## ##\\ > // ### ### \\ > /// ####### \\\ > /// // \\ \\\ > // / | | \ \\ > / | \ > > You have just been hit with a snow ball! > The first one of the winter. > > It's the start of..... > E-mail Snow Ball Fight 98/99!!!! > > One rule to this game.... > > You can't hit someone who has already hit you! > Now....go out there and hit as many people > as you can before they get you!! > > Hahahahhahhaha I got you first! > and you can't get me back! > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:40:39 +0100 (BST) > From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> > To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se> > cc: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com> > Subject: [B7L] Redemption > Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1204194039-354Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > I've just been speaking to Gareth Thomas. He recieved confirmation earlier > today that he'll be appearing in 'The Hosts of Rebecca' which is on at the same > time as Redemption and he will thus be unable to make it to the convention. (He > says he'll try and send a video tape to say Hello) > > We're looking into alternative guests, but it's too soon for us to name any > names yet. > > Judith > > PS. No, we can't ask Paul, he's in Guards Guards and it would be physically > impossible given the distance he already has to travel that weekend. > > -- > http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 > > Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention > 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent > http://www.smof.com/redemption/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:08:36 EST > From: ShilLance@aol.com > To: master@sol.co.uk, blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Voyager and B7 > Message-ID: <679ca619.36687984@aol.com> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 12/3/98 7:25:41 PM EST, master@sol.co.uk writes: > > << > << > What do you mean "shagging Robert Beltran?" > > > > << "Having extramarital sex with">> > > > > Is there proof of this? > > Do you expect me to have taken pictures? >> > > If you state a fact, you should be able to verify it. From where do you get > your information? > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:11:59 +0000 > From: JMR <jager@clara.net> > To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se > Subject: [B7L] Horizon Newsflash - 6/12/98 > Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19981206181159.007a7c80@mail.clara.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > JAN CHAPPELL > Jan will be appearing in the play THE COLOUR OF JUSTICE from 12 to 31 > January 1999 at the Tricycle Theatre, 269 Kilburn High Road, London NW6 > 7JR. Box Office Tel: 0171 328 1000. The play is a dramatised > reconstruction of the major events of the Stephen Lawrence enquiry. > Anyone interested in joining the Horizon outing (date not yet finalised) > to see this should email diane@horizon.org.uk > > The Horizon Club website: > <http://www.horizon.org.uk> > > > > > > J.M. Rolls > jager@clara.net > ---------------- > Steedophilia: The John Steed Website > <http://home.clara.net/jager/> > > -------------------------------- > End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #301 > ************************************** > Dita, President and Supreme Commander of the Terran Federation. -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #12 *************************************