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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 177
Today's Topics:
Re: Re: [B7L] Website
Re: [B7L] Website
Re: [B7L] actors for The Movie
Re: [B7L] actors for The Movie
Re: [B7L] actors for The Movie
Re: [B7L] actors for The Movie
[B7L] Re: actors for The Movie
Re: [B7L] Re: actors for The Movie
[B7L] Acctors for The Movie
Playing Avon (was Re: [B7L] Website)
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 08:53:06 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Re: [B7L] Website
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Sally wrote:
> Joanne wrote to Una:
> <You really are going to have to think up some good things to say about
> Animals, however, if converting people is the aim - I've only seen that
> episode once, and that was on fast forward much of the time.
>
> To which Jenni replied:
>
> <Talk about flogging a dead horse! Leave poor "Animals" to fester and
stink
> in a corner where it belongs, Una!>
>
> Well, having not seen the thing for *years* (and having a total blank
> mentally where it should be, I'm willing to be - er - converted (at least
> till I do see it again <g>) And I'm sure the eloquence Una can bring to it
> would be well worth experiencing, wouldn't it, Una?
<splutter> Umm. Yes! Of course! <furtive glances around looking for an exit>
Actually, I spent half an hour on the phone to a friend the other night
explaining why 'Animals' wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be, and at
the end of my brainwahing session he said 1. There are worse episodes, 2. It
has some good bits and 3. Will you get off the damn phone now, please?
So there is hope.
Una
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:05:15 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Website
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Jenni wrote:
> Joanne wrote to Una:
> > You really are going to
> > have to think up some good things to say about
> > Animals, however, if converting people is the aim -
> > I've only seen that episode once, and that was on fast
> > forward much of the time.
>
> It can't be done - there's nothing that can redeem "Animals" in the minds
> of the fans - the Q study proved that.
Hey - this social science. It proves *nothing*!
Una
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:04:01 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "Calle Dybedahl" <calle@lysator.liu.se>,
"lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] actors for The Movie
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Calle wrote:
> Ed Wasser. And I think he should play Carnell.
Oh, yes!
Una
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:06:07 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] actors for The Movie
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Reuben wrote:
> I would highly reccomend checking out his performance in Con Air. He
plays
> a child molester, but gets reformed in the end. He is very calm and
> innocent looking throughout.
And John Cusack is in 'Con Air' so it's successful all round, apart from
being not very good.
> > >I don't much
> > >> like the idea of Christopher Walken as Avon (too much
> > >> menace and not enough, erm, appeal to the hormones),
> > >> but someone may.
> > >
> Maybe not, but he does have that coldness to him, especially in flicks
like
> The Prophacy.
>
> Whoever played Morden in Babylon 5 would be a nice choice. Has the
required
> humor, darkness, and he's pretty handsome.
Too physically slight.
Una
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:07:23 PDT
From: "Hellen Paskaleva" <hellen_pas@hotmail.com>
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Tegan asked:
> > By the way, who is Steve Buscemi? It's impossible to picture him as
> > Vila, simply because I have no idea who he is.
The mad genius from "ConAir". Also known here as 'Long live Steve Buscemi!'
Not suitable for Vila, maybe someone more, ... how to say, ... humble...?
Hellen
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Date: 29 May 1999 20:11:15 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
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"Hellen Paskaleva" <hellen_pas@hotmail.com> writes:
> Not suitable for Vila, maybe someone more, ... how to say, ... humble...?
Kevin Spacey. See "The Usual Suspects" for why.
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:41:55 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
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Reuben wrote:
> Whoever played Morden in Babylon 5 would be a
>nice choice. Has the required humor, darkness, and
>he's pretty handsome.
No. Quite different sort of humour etc. Vaguely quoting Frodo Baggins &
Aragorn, Morden seems fair and feels foul, Avon looks foul and feels fair.
Not an exact parallel, perhaps - Avon sometimes feels a bit foul. But
Morden's usual opening gambit is "be incredibly obliging", which isn't a
move Avon tries very often.
I still say Vote Robbie Coltrane for Avon!
Harriet
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 17:25:11 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Harriet Monkhouse wrote:
> Reuben wrote:
> > Whoever played Morden in Babylon 5 would be a
> >nice choice. Has the required humor, darkness, and
> >he's pretty handsome.
>
> No. Quite different sort of humour etc. Vaguely quoting Frodo Baggins &
> Aragorn, Morden seems fair and feels foul, Avon looks foul and feels fair.
> Not an exact parallel, perhaps - Avon sometimes feels a bit foul. But
> Morden's usual opening gambit is "be incredibly obliging", which isn't a
> move Avon tries very often.
Nice differentiation, there.
> I still say Vote Robbie Coltrane for Avon!
Please, no. I like Robbie Coltrane a lot, and he could get the
psychology right, but he hasn't got the felinity. He'd look a
bit off in leather, IMHO.
It's just hit me rather hard, the only person who's crossed my
mind who I could see carry it off is Brent Spiner. If you've only
seen him in Trek, it might not look like it; but before and after
Data, he did lots of character roles of all different sorts, and
he's enormously versatile. He's definitely got the sneer, the
pout, the snarl, etc. (think Lore, only toned down a bit). IMHO,
you'll have to go to great lengths to convince me anyone else
could do Avon better (apart from PD, of course.)
FWIW,
Mistral
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"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:22:03 -0700
From: Cheryl A Marks <smoothfox@juno.com>
To: calle@lysator.liu.se
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Subject: [B7L] Acctors for The Movie
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On 29 May 1999 20:11:15 +0200 Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
writes:
>> Not suitable for Vila, maybe someone more, ... how to say, ...
>humble...?
>Kevin Spacey. See "The Usual Suspects" for why.
Excellent Suggestion Calle! Spacey would be incredible!
Cheryl
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Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 13:59:12 +1000
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Playing Avon (was Re: [B7L] Website)
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On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 06:12:00AM -0700, J MacQueen wrote:
> --- Una McCormack wrote:
> > LOL! Oddly enough, I have p. 23 of issue 50 of SFX
> > framed and on my wall to
> > the right of me! Was it worth the wait?
>
> Well, Couch Potato amused me. By the way, who is Steve
> Buscemi? It's impossible to picture him as Vila,
> simply because I have no idea who he is. I don't much
> like the idea of Christopher Walken as Avon (too much
> menace and not enough, erm, appeal to the hormones),
> but someone may.
Christopher Walken? You obviously didn't see him in "The Dead Zone"
(which is what first caught my attention) or "Sarah Plain and Tall".
Christopher Walken is one of those few actors who can do both
"dangerous" and "vulnerable" - and those kind of actors appeal to me.
Who are the others?
* Paul Darrow - of course!
* Rutger Hauer
* Mel Gibson, though Mel leans toward the "crazy" rather than the
"menacing". He does "crazy" real good. (-8
* James Morrison - though the word for him is "intense".
But of course, if anyone other than Paul Darrow played Avon, their own
personality would steer Avon in a different direction than PD's
version. So it wouldn't "really" be Avon. But that doesn't mean that
these other Avons wouldn't appeal for similar reasons.
Kathryn Andersen
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