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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 180

Today's Topics:
	 [B7L] Re: Even more casting
	 [B7L] Re Buffy as B7 cast list
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
	 Re: [B7L] B7 and Lexx (was graphics genius wanted)
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
	 [B7L] re: casting, cont.
	 [B7L] CGI
	 Re: [B7L] B7 and Lexx 
	 [B7L] Which brings us back to the movie...(was Re: B7 and Lexx)
	 [B7L] Re: Even more casting
	 [B7L] Re: actors for the movie
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
	 Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont.
	 Re: [B7L] CGI
	 RE: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
	 Re: [B7L] graphics genius wanted
	 Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont.
	 Re: [B7L] Even more casting
	 Re: [B7L] oh my god, he killed blake!
	 Re: Ultraworld AU fic (was Re: [B7L] Re: actors for The Movie)
	 Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont.
	 Re: [B7L] B7 and Lexx
	 Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont.
	 Re: [B7L] CGI
	 Re: [B7L] CGI

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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 00:06:59 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
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Tegan said: "I kept trying to throw Xena/Hercules characters in
there."

Well how about Buffy.
Sarah Michelle Gellar as Jenna
Alyson Hannigan (Willow) as Cally
Anthony Stewart Head (Rupert Giles) as Blake
David Boreanz (Angel) as Avon
Seth Green (Oz) as Vila
Juliet Landau (Drusilla) as Servalan
James Marsters (Spike) as Travis
Charisma Carpenter (Cordelia) as Soolin

--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson

"What is it with you and holes?"
Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found

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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 00:24:16 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re Buffy as B7 cast list
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After posting my Buffy as B7 cast suggestions, I turned of my 'puter and
went to bed. No sooner had I turned off the light than I realised I'd
missed out the irritating Nicholas Brendon who plays Xander. Instantly
Tarrant flashed into my mind. So, I'm back at the keyboard to share this
with you all.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson

"What is it with you and holes?"
Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found

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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 01:53:18 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Steve Rogerson wrote:

> Anthony Stewart Head (Rupert Giles) as Blake
> David Boreanz (Angel) as Avon
>

Ergg. I suggest a change here, IMHO. Head would make a lovely
*Avon*, but Boreanaz is not strong enough to play opposite him
either way. Make Boreanaz Travis, Marsters Blake. Or make
Marsters Vila (he does a delicious whiny drunk), and Seth Green
Blake. Love the idea of Alyson Hannigan as Cally, though,
particularly the Cally of 'Time Squad'.

Just IMHO,
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila

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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 03:58:39 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Christine Lacey wrote:

> I think I'd leave Anthony Stewart Head as Giles - it works for me, but I agree
> with you about Boreanz.  I'd go for a straight swap and have Boreanz as Travis
> and James Marsters as Avon.

Yes, I can see that working. Something else that might be
fun is Boreanaz = Blake, Marsters = Avon, Anthony Stewart
Head = Travis (balances Blake and Avon a little better and
gives everybody's favourite librarian a chance to play
menacing, which he does *awfully* well.)

> BTW loved Steve's idea of Nicholas Brendan (Xander) as Tarrant :)

Inspired, that. Also, I can totally see Charisma Carpenter as Soolin.

Grins,
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:34:37 +1000
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
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On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 01:53:18AM -0700, mistral@ptinet.net wrote:
> 
> 
> Steve Rogerson wrote:
> 
> > Anthony Stewart Head (Rupert Giles) as Blake
> > David Boreanz (Angel) as Avon
> >
> 
> Ergg. I suggest a change here, IMHO. Head would make a lovely
> *Avon*,

Ah, yes.  People with long memories would remember me rabbiting on
about Oliver Sampson (of VR.5, played by Anthony Stewart Head) and
Avon, and how similar those characters were.  Those who have only seen
ASH as Giles wouldn't know, but he can certainly play Tall, Dark and
Broody.  Not to mention mysterious and sarcastic.
(So why on earth did I forget to add him to my list of vulnerable +
dangerous?)

> but Boreanaz is not strong enough to play opposite him
> either way.

Interesting observation.

> Make Boreanaz Travis, Marsters Blake. Or make
> Marsters Vila (he does a delicious whiny drunk), and Seth Green
> Blake. Love the idea of Alyson Hannigan as Cally, though,
> particularly the Cally of 'Time Squad'.
 
Yep, Willow as Cally is good.  And Buffy as Jenna - kick some ass!
But I don't think Seth Green fits in anywhere.  He's definitely not a
Vila!  And he isn't intense enough to be a Blake.  In fact, I don't
think there's anyone from the Buffy cast who could be a Blake.

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:05:53 +1000
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 and Lexx (was graphics genius wanted)
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On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 03:33:14PM -0700, J MacQueen wrote:
> --- Alison Page <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > that reminds me - I've just read a
> > scanned copy of some
> > Canadian TV guide which describes Lexx as 'Blakes
> > Seven written in Heroin
> > withdrawal' - which is an amazingly precise
> > description)
> 
> It's an intriguing description, not that I can vouch
> for its accuracy - not without pay TV, anyway.

Well, I *have* seen it, and the description is still intriguing...
because I can't really imagine what Heroin withdrawal would be like...
My *personal* description of Lexx was that it was "like _The Fifth
Element_ only darker, and with an M rating".  11/10 for style,
IMHO.  At least, the original 4-part mini-series was; the actual
follow-up series I don't like as much.  Probably due to (a) less scope
for interesting plot (b) lack of story arc (c) more emphasis on the
"adult" (they've visited brothels at least twice so far!) and (d) a
major character replacement (I don't like the new Xev as much as the
old Zev).

As for its B7-ishness, I guess that would count in the following ways:
- dark humour
- the occassional dark twist
- a crew of misfits with the best ship in space, which they stole
(Kathryn immediately realizes that HHGG fits that too.)
- they're on the run from an evil government (in the mini-series)
(in the series, it's more like Season 3 -- nobody's really chasing
them, and they don't really have a goal)
- one of the characters (Stanley Tweedle) is a lecherous coward (but
  Vila has much more appeal, IMHO, at least being a lecherous coward
  isn't the only thing Vila is)
- one of the characters (Kai) is Tall, Dark, Handsome, Taciturn, Dangerous,
  and always ends up rescuing everybody else after they went off and
  did the foolish things.
- one of the characters is a beautiful woman who theoretically can
  kick ass, but gradually dwindles into just being a babe.

However, with a bit of compare and contrast...
Vila, as I said, is more appealing than Stanley Tweedle.
Kai is just as appealing (IMHO) as Avon, but his motivations are
completely different. Indeed, he spends half his time, lately, saying
"I have no motivation to..."  His other common refrain is that he has
no future.
Zev is feisty, but with no skills except sex appeal.
790's only resemblance to Orac is that he's mechanical, mouthy, and
had to be carried everywhere.

> A bit
> like B7 itself - none of the free-to-air stations want
> a piece of it. If it comes to that, Neverwhere hasn't
> been screened by one of the local networks either.
> <sigh> It seems my taste in television programmes
> isn't quite commercial enough.

Indeed.  We're all too intelligent.

Kathryn Andersen
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Masked Man:  Life is pain!  Anyone who says different is trying to sell you
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 06:20:51 -0700
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Kathryn Andersen wrote:

>  Those who have only seen
> ASH as Giles wouldn't know, but he can certainly play Tall, Dark and
> Broody.  Not to mention mysterious and sarcastic.
> (So why on earth did I forget to add him to my list of vulnerable +
> dangerous?)

I have been wondering that ;)

> But I don't think Seth Green fits in anywhere.  He's definitely not a
> Vila!  And he isn't intense enough to be a Blake.  In fact, I don't
> think there's anyone from the Buffy cast who could be a Blake.

If we were seriously casting a movie, yes, you're absolutely
right. In the interests of using Buffy cast, however, Seth
Green at least does both idealistic and stubborn quite well.

Grins,
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 06:30:45 -0700
From: "Ann Basart" <abasart@dnai.com>
To: "Blake's7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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As long as we're having a dream cast, how about Ralph Feinnes as Avon?

--Ann
abasart@dnai.com

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:16:17 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] CGI
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What about if they could graphically enhance the old B7 film stock and
impose really good graphic effects? It could be done, and no doubt it will
get easier to do.

Would that be heresy on a par with colorizing (sic) 'Casablanca'?

or what?

Alison

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:07:36 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 and Lexx 
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An excellent comparison Kathryn. I think I agree with everything you said
there, except I like the second series rather more than you do.

BTW I take 'Heroin Withdrawal' to mean dark, weird, uncomfortable and
hallucinatory in a kind of yucky affectless way. Like Cronenburg or
Trainspotting.

What I like in both series is the idea of belonging to a group of complete
weirdoes whom nobody else can understand but who are actually vastly
superior to everyone they meet - so very similar to the experience of being
on this list.

Alison

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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:14:38 -0600
From: Penny Dreadful <egomoo@mail.geocities.com>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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At 03:07 PM 6/2/99 +0100, Alison Page wrote:

>BTW I take 'Heroin Withdrawal' to mean dark, weird, uncomfortable and
>hallucinatory in a kind of yucky affectless way. Like Cronenburg or
>Trainspotting.

B7, The Movie: screenplay by Irvine Walsh, directed by David Cronenberg.
*That* I would pay to see! 

(with Ralph Feinnes in the leather trousers, as Ann suggested.)

--Penny "Ooh, I Feel All Tingly" Dreadful

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:14:41 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
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Calle wound up his recasting from Xena/Hercules:
>Don't really know who to pick for Dayna and Soolin, though.

Shouldn't be a problem with all those Amazons swinging through the trees...
 How about:

Dayna   Danielle Cormack (Ephiny) - no special reason except that they're
both fairly important and sympathetic characters.
Soolin  Vicky Pratt (Cyane, the Amazon Queen who does that combat
undressing in Adventures in the Sin Trade).

Harriet

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:14:30 -0400
From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: actors for the movie
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Mistral gave an interesting account of what's she's looking for in
re-casting, concluding:
>I'd prefer to find an actor who can give a convincing rendition
>of the Avon we're all used to, not redefine him into something
>unrecognizable; and then hopefully each viewer would find in
>the large-screen version the same things they found appealing
>in the original portrayal.

I think my attitude is probably born out of the conviction that there's no
point hoping for a faithful recreation, because we'll never get one.  So
I'd rather do something that's a variation on the original and doesn't
pretend to be anything else.  And probably Alison is right, and I'd do
better to go and look for something else "in the spirit of", like this
Lexx.

At the same time, I know a lot of people are hoping for something
worthwhile out of this film, and I don't want them to be disappointed.

Harriet

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Date: 02 Jun 1999 19:27:05 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes:

> Dayna   Danielle Cormack (Ephiny) - no special reason except that they're
> both fairly important and sympathetic characters.

*ponder* No, she looks too experienced. How about Willa O'Neill (Lila,
Gabrielle's sister)?

> Soolin  Vicky Pratt (Cyane, the Amazon Queen who does that combat
> undressing in Adventures in the Sin Trade).

Oh yes, that's a nice one (both the suggestion and the combat
undressing stunt). 
-- 
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 18:26:16 +0100
From: "Kevin Mahoney" <kevinpatrickmahoney@msn.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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I think Willem Dafoe would make a good Avon.  He's got the slinkiness down
to an art, can play either good or bad characters, and the most important
thing is that he can carry off the leather.

Kevin Mahoney

http://www.geocities.com.SoHo/Nook/1082

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:44:14 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont.
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Ann Basart wrote:

> As long as we're having a dream cast, how about Ralph Feinnes as Avon?

Am I the only person in the world who finds Ralph Fiennes deeply
unattractive? The man is cold, passionless, frigid. Or was this the point
you were making, Ann? ;)


Una

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:40:10 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] CGI
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Alison wrote:

> What about if they could graphically enhance the old B7 film stock and
> impose really good graphic effects? It could be done, and no doubt it will
> get easier to do.
>
> Would that be heresy on a par with colorizing (sic) 'Casablanca'?
>
> or what?

Definitely 'what'. I think it'd be a laugh. Although part of the fun if B7
is the animations and the slow-fighting. And the flares. And the
overwhelming sense of it being the 1970s.


Una

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:15:02 +-100
From: Louise Rutter <Louise.Rutter@btinternet.com>
To: "'B7 Lysator'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>,
        "'Kathryn Andersen'"
	 <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Re: Even more casting
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>> Ergg. I suggest a change here, IMHO. Head would make a lovely
>> *Avon*,

>Ah, yes.  People with long memories would remember me rabbiting on
>about Oliver Sampson (of VR.5, played by Anthony Stewart Head) and
>Avon, and how similar those characters were.  Those who have only seen
>ASH as Giles wouldn't know, but he can certainly play Tall, Dark and
>Broody.  Not to mention mysterious and sarcastic.
>(So why on earth did I forget to add him to my list of vulnerable +
>dangerous?)

Can't help but add a "me too" here. I will never forgive the cancellation 
of VR5 just as it found what worked best within the format and got really 
_interesting_. Every now and then I have to bitch about that to somebody. 
And Giles as a character isn't a patch on Oliver. Oh, and I did like the 
earring, though normally I don't on men!

Louise

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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:34:23 PDT
From: "Hellen Paskaleva" <hellen_pas@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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>Supersuds said -
>
> >Can anyone tell me what "Lexx" is?  I'm in the states and do don't hear
>about
> >much new British Sci-Fi.
>
>Alison answered:
...
>quick B7 conversion guide
>
>Lexx = The Liberator and Zen
>Stanley Tweedle = Vila (without any doubt)
>Kai = Avon (at a pinch, and with long hair)
>790 = Orac on viagra
>Zev / Xev = multipurpose babe I'm afraid

...And Thodin = Blake.

BTW, Zev before the plastic surgery was mush more likable. Seems, that they 
removed her sense of humour together with the surplus fats.

Hellen


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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:48:20 PDT
From: "Hellen Paskaleva" <hellen_pas@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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>Ann Basart wrote:
> > As long as we're having a dream cast, how about Ralph Feinnes as Avon?
>
>Then Una said:
>Am I the only person in the world who finds Ralph Fiennes deeply
>unattractive? The man is cold, passionless, frigid...

Which one of the brothers was he - that one from the "English patient" or 
the one from "Shakespeare in love". I don't like them both, though. You are 
absolutely right, Una.

Hellen


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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:55:02 -0700
From: Pat Patera <patpatera@netzero.net>
To: B7 Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Even more casting
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Calle Dybedahl wrote:
> Blake           Michael Hurst (Iolaus)
> Avon            Kevin Smith (Ares)
> Vila            Robert Trebor (Salmoneus)
> Jenna           Alexandra Tydings (Aphrodite)
> Cally           Cory Everson (Atalanta)
> Gan             Kevin Sorbo (Hercules)
> Servalan        Rene� O'Connor (Gabrielle)
> Travis 1        Lucy Lawless (Xena)
> Travis 2        Hudson Leick (Callisto)
> Tarrant	  Bruce Campbell (Autolycus)

Oh, I love it! 
> Don't really know who to pick for Dayna and Soolin, though

Try:
Dayna		  (Jennifer Sky?) Emerys, Amazon warrior (the fiesty redhead in
Endgame)
Soolin		  (actress for?) Ephiny, Amazon warrior (the curly-haired blonde
queen)

But for Soolin, Aphrodite has her "snotty attitude" so if Gabrielle
played Jenna, and evil Callisto played Servalan, then  ... No, wait! The
evil Amazon queen-become-god plays Servalan. The good Amazon queen plays
Soolin. No, wait! Ares plays Travis 1 and Casear plays Travis 2. Xena
plays Dayna while Gabby plays Soolin, No, wait! (Now I'm confused) This
show has so many wonderful characters...

re:
> Travis 1: Xena, Travis 2: Callisto. 
This is a hilarious exaggeration of how much smaller second season
Travis is, yet we are expected to believe it's the same man. It could
only have been funnier had Travis 2 been a blond. (or a blonde woman???) 

Pat P
P.S. I *love* this line up, as Xena ranks only second to B7 in my book.


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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:48:05 -0700
From: Pat Patera <patpatera@netzero.net>
To: B7 Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] oh my god, he killed blake!
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Alison Page wrote: 
> If anyone wants to see my graphic version of a B7/southpark cross-over
> (warning, poor in both taste and execution) then email me and I'll send it
> to you. I converted it to a GIF so it's about 30K.

Can't we peek at it on your web page?
If not, I'll take a private gander.
 
> If anyone wants to pop it on a site then let me know too.
This sounds like a yard ornament for Penny Dreadful's Mad Poodle Farm
:-D Pat



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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:30:11 -0700
From: Pat Patera <patpatera@netzero.net>
To: B7 Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Ultraworld AU fic (was Re: [B7L] Re: actors for The Movie)
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Mistral wrote:
> > And while I'm on the subject of the relationship between the
> > body and the personality, is it too much to hope that someone's
> > written a good gen AU in which Cally and Avon's consciousnesses
> > were reversed at Ultraworld? Does anyone know if such a story
> > exists, and where I might find it?

I'm glad Kathryn could dredge up the titles, but I quite like these
stories, for they are usually funny. The part I recall from years back
is Cally's crabby reaction over finding the terrible condition of her
new body, with stiffness, aches and pains (that bad back, ya kno) and
crossly lecturing Avon on taking care of his body.

As we know, *only* Cally could get away with crossly lecturing Avon! :-)

Far funnier, tho, would be a story wherin Avon and Vila get their brains
swapped. Has anyone recast Ultraworld into this possibility?
 
> Kathryn Andersen sez: (glad she's not a man)
Yeah, but do you *really* want to be relegated to teleport duty all the
time?

emerging from long-time lurk mode, Pat P


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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:24:35 +0100
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont.
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Una said -

>Am I the only person in the world who finds Ralph Fiennes deeply
>unattractive? The man is cold, passionless, frigid. Or was this the point
>you were making, Ann? ;)


I was pondering earlier why these cold characters are so attractive. It's
certainly not a feature women generally praise in real-life men. 'Oooh my
new boyfriend is so lacking in normal human warmth', 'You lucky thing!'

I think it's that Avon -say- isn't only rather distant, he's also crucially
*on your side* and shows it by regularly rescuing you from death. Or one
imagines he would anyway.

Alison

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:49:32 +0100
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 and Lexx
Message-ID: <5HSeFEAs6WV3Ewrt@jajones.demon.co.uk>

In message <010901bead02$9e3d2620$ca8edec2@pre-installedco>, Alison Page
<alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> writes
>What I like in both series is the idea of belonging to a group of complete
>weirdoes whom nobody else can understand but who are actually vastly
>superior to everyone they meet - so very similar to the experience of being
>on this list.

<snicker>
It's very dangerous to say quotable things like that when I'm working on
the next volume of _Tales from Space City_.
-- 
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
        The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:23:22 +0100
From: "Una McCormack" <una@q-research.connectfree.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont.
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Hellen asked:

> Which one of the brothers was he - that one from the "English patient" or
> the one from "Shakespeare in love". I don't like them both, though. You
are
> absolutely right, Una.

He's 'The English Patient' Fiennes. The other one can act, but he has a
funny chin.


Una

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:41:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] CGI
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On Wed 02 Jun, Alison Page wrote:
> What about if they could graphically enhance the old B7 film stock and
> impose really good graphic effects? It could be done, and no doubt it will
> get easier to do.

That's one of my dreams.  I'd love it!  The same ships, but real space battles.

I'd also like to see the computer graphics improved.  eg.  when they are
studying the layout of bases or looking at data on screens.

I wouldn't touch the sets, wobbles or no wobbles, nor Scorpio's take-off
sequence, but the rest I would *love* to see.

Judith

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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 18:51:10 -0500
From: "Reuben Herfindahl" <reuben@reuben.net>
To: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
CC: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] CGI
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I've been playing with a few second segment for a long time.  Perhaps I'll
post the unfinished effort later.

Reuben
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>From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
>To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
>Subject: Re: [B7L] CGI
>Date: Wed, Jun 2, 1999, 12:41 PM
>

>On Wed 02 Jun, Alison Page wrote:
>> What about if they could graphically enhance the old B7 film stock and
>> impose really good graphic effects? It could be done, and no doubt it will
>> get easier to do.
>
>That's one of my dreams.  I'd love it!  The same ships, but real space battles.
>
>I'd also like to see the computer graphics improved.  eg.  when they are
>studying the layout of bases or looking at data on screens.
>
>I wouldn't touch the sets, wobbles or no wobbles, nor Scorpio's take-off
>sequence, but the rest I would *love* to see.
>
>Judith
>
>-- 
>http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 -  Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs,
>pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth
>Thomas, etc.  (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight)

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