From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #181 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/181 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 181 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Re: [B7L] Which brings us back to the movie...(was Re: B7 and Lexx) [B7L] Travis or Blake? Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Re: [B7L] Travis or Blake? Re: [B7L] Southern Comfort 10.5 Re: [B7L] Travis or Blake? Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Re: [B7L] Travis or Blake? Re: [B7L] Which brings us back to the movie...(was Re: B7 and Lexx) [B7L] Re:Even more casting Re: [B7L] Re:Even more casting Re: [B7L] CGI Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont. [B7L] Re: Ultraworld AU fic [B7L] Re: Even more casting [B7L] Fiennes (was re casting, cont) Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting [B7L] What if. . . ? (A non-canonic thought about the crew) Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont. [B7L] Re: Even more casting [B7L] Re: Even more casting Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting RE: [B7L] re: casting, cont. Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Re: [B7L] What if. . . ? Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont. Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting [B7L] Was that who I thought it was? Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting (pls no spoilers) Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting (pls no spoilers) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:07:37 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: B7 Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <37558F09.9A07DA19@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harriet Monkhouse wrote: > Shouldn't be a problem with all those Amazons swinging through the trees... LOL :-D We are on the same wavelength. > Dayna Danielle Cormack (Ephiny) too calm, too mature, too curly for Dayna. hmmmmm. Ephiny would make a perfect Blake > Soolin Vicky Pratt (Cyane, the Amazon Queen) Cyane could make a fine "steel-queen" Servalan off topic: has anyone heard any spoilers about how the show Xena is going to salvage this season's cliff hanger? There *will* be a next season, yes? >(Cyane, the Amazon Queen who does that combat > undressing in Adventures in the Sin Trade). ummmm... could you save me the trouble of finding that tape and tell me: what is combat undressing? Prurient Pat P ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 01:17:09 +0100 From: "David A McIntee" To: "Penny Dreadful" , "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Which brings us back to the movie...(was Re: B7 and Lexx) Message-Id: <199906030021.BAA23075@gnasher.sol.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Penny Dreadful > To: Blake's 7 list > > B7, The Movie: screenplay by Irvine Walsh, directed by David Cronenberg. > *That* I would pay to see! > I wouldn't - Irvine Welsh can't write worth a -- "This path has been placed before you; the choice to take it is yours alone." http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Mansion/4845 http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Bistro/7312/ ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:21:17 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Travis or Blake? Message-ID: <19990603012117.13038.rocketmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit One good thing about the new PCs at work is the fact that now I can listen to CDs while I'm working. The disc in D drive at the moment is Suzanne Vega's first album. Now that the scene has been set, I'm asking those of you familiar with that album whether you think Travis or Blake would be better as the Soldier in "The Queen and The Soldier". I can't decide. The line "He said I want to live as an honest man" suggests Blake, but without it, Travis seems a much better choice. The trouble is, both of them seem to say "I am not fighting for you anymore", but Travis says it to Servalan, and Blake is saying it to the Federation. Hmm. Regards Indecisive _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 18:35:08 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <3755DBCC.92A7AEED@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat Patera wrote: > Ephiny would make a perfect Blake Perfect. Good one, Pat. Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 18:53:22 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis or Blake? Message-ID: <3755E012.F3A62E30@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aargh, meant this to go to the list, sorry Joanne! J MacQueen wrote: > Now that the scene has been set, I'm asking those of > you familiar with that album whether you think Travis > or Blake would be better as the Soldier in "The Queen > and The Soldier". I can't decide. The line "He said I > want to live as an honest man" suggests Blake, but > without it, Travis seems a much better choice. The > trouble is, both of them seem to say "I am not > fighting for you anymore", but Travis says it to > Servalan, and Blake is saying it to the Federation. > Hmm. Don't know the song, but what you quote sounds like Travis to me, Joanne. I believe he saw himself as an honest man, and much of the rest of Space Command as hypocrites. I'm thinking of Trial as the most obvious example; his diatribe against the judges, and his line that goes something like: "We weren't all hypocrites, were we, Par?" If the rest of the song strongly suggests, Travis, this doesn't seem like an anomaly to me. Just IMHO, Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:44:07 EDT From: Bizarro7@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Southern Comfort 10.5 Message-ID: <8d151685.248745f7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all contributors and purchasers of Southern Comfort 10.5: If you purchased Southern Comfort 10.5 at MediaWest and did *not* give me your mailing address in order to replace the missing the pages, please send an e-mail to me at: ashton7@aol.com providing your mailing address and a note to the effect that you purchased 10.5 at the con. If you are a contributor who is waiting for your trib copy, there will be a short delay while I get the missing pages printed and repair your copies. Please note: you *must* send an e-mail to me at ashton7@aol.com, *not* to Leah at bizarro7@aol.com. Apologies for the printer error and the inconvenience! Annie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:35:28 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis or Blake? Message-ID: <19990603033528.6706.rocketmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --- mistral@ptinet.net wrote: > Aargh, meant this to go to the list, sorry Joanne! You're forgiven > Don't know the song, but what you quote sounds like > Travis to me, Joanne. I believe he saw himself as an > honest man, and much of the rest of Space Command as > hypocrites. I'm thinking of Trial as the most > obvious example; There's a point. I'm listening again as I type this, and it does fit, just so long as you apply it only to the second Travis, not the first. To explain that: Travis 1 is a soldier, and he knows the political games going on. Travis 2 is a soldier, and he knows the political games going on. But the first is willing to play them, especially if he has the upper hand, or there's a way to gain it. The second is a disillusioned man, like the soldier in the song, sick of the games, sick of their players (possibly even of himself). Lines like "And I've wondered who's the woman for whom we all kill", and "But I've seen more battles lost than I have battles won/And I've got this intuition, says it's all for your fun/And now will you tell me why?" tend to reinforce the idea. Travis 1 probably wouldn't ask - he'd know. Travis 2 seems to have lost this, raising the question of what happened to him between series 1 and series 2 ("therapy" sessions? A major head injury? A major defeat that not only killed many of his troops but threatened his own life? One final straw of hypocrisy?). Travis 2 is a different person to Travis 1, in more than the sense that another actor had taken on the eyepatch. It's a little bit difficult to see the character played by Stephen Greif skulking around spaceports for lack of "official" resources (and there I mean he'd've stayed back at headquarters until the time came to inspect the merchandise. He'd've tracked Docholli from afar). Too patrician. Too much of an officer following his rising star. Travis 2 is trying to stop his star from setting so rapidly, after Servalan's disapproval cast him down from the firmament. So to speak. But he's not so hungry that he'll do anything anymore. He seems to have lost whatever it was that drove him, apart from his hate for Blake. In Trial, he is undoubtedly honest, because it appears that he doesn't care about the consequences of questioning the authority of his superiors any longer. After Trial, one might argue, comes disillusionment with his fellow human beings, let alone the politicians he spent so long courting while trying to do his job. I can just see Servalan looking at Travis 2, "with an arrogant eye", if it comes to that, refusing to take a metaphorical crown from her head. Like Travis 1, her star is rising. Regards Joanne (wondering where her lunch hour and the words to express half of what she wanted to say went) And he said, "I want to live as an honest man To get all I deserve and to give all I can And to love a young woman who I don't understand Your highness, your ways are very strange". --Suzanne Vega, The Queen and The Soldier. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 03 Jun 1999 06:04:32 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: B7 Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Pat Patera writes: > hmmmmm. Ephiny would make a perfect Blake That would be interesting, yes. Maybe we can do an all-female cast... > off topic: has anyone heard any spoilers about how the show Xena is > going to salvage this season's cliff hanger? There *will* be a next > season, yes? Plase wait a couple of weeks before discussing this any more, I haven't seen the end of season four yet :-) But, yes, a fifth season have been announced. You can probably find more info at http://www.whoosh.org/ > ummmm... could you save me the trouble of finding that tape and tell me: > what is combat undressing? It's just after Xena has been peeking at Cyane and an unnamed amazon in the sweatlodge and fallen through the roof. X and C stand looking at each other for a moment or two, then C starts ripping Xena's clothes off and putting them on herself very, very quickly. It really has to be seen, I can't describe it properly. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Try again. Try harder. -*- Fail again. Fail better. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:22:37 -0400 From: "Kimberly D. Ashford" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis or Blake? Message-ID: <0f2d14731040369CPIMSSMTPU10@email.msn.com> -----Original Message----- (snip snip) >Now that the scene has been set, I'm asking those of >you familiar with that album whether you think Travis >or Blake would be better as the Soldier in "The Queen >and The Soldier". I can't decide. The line "He said I >want to live as an honest man" suggests Blake, but >without it, Travis seems a much better choice. The >trouble is, both of them seem to say "I am not >fighting for you anymore", but Travis says it to >Servalan, and Blake is saying it to the Federation. >Hmm. > Wow--I thought I was the only one who'd thought of this! I always pictured Travis as the Soldier. I don't think Blake had the emotional connection to Servalan that Travis (or Avon) did. Kim ----- "Dear President Clark: Hate you. Hate Earthdome. Am taking Mars. Signed, Sheridan." Visit the Starbucket website at http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/5508/stories.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:39:19 +0100 From: "Una McCormack" To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Which brings us back to the movie...(was Re: B7 and Lexx) Message-ID: <006401bead8b$f694f850$0c01a8c0@hedge> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dangermouse wrote: > I wouldn't - Irvine Welsh can't write worth a here> Agree with you there, DM. 'Trainspotting' is a *much* better film than book. Una ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 08:01:10 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re:Even more casting Message-ID: <37562834.DDB8E5E6@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistral wrote: > Love the idea of Alyson Hannigan as Cally, though, > particularly the Cally of 'Time Squad'. Though thinking about it again, Willow as Avon makes more sense as they are both computer experts. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson "What is it with you and holes?" Xena to Gabrielle, Paradise Found ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 00:08:59 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re:Even more casting Message-ID: <37562A0A.D15DFFF1@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Rogerson wrote: > Though thinking about it again, Willow as Avon makes more sense as they > are both computer experts. Maybe Willow is Avon's long-lost daughter. Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:34:38 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] CGI Message-ID: <007701bead95$b69b0e60$ca8edec2@pre-installedco> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I've been playing with a few second segment for a long time. Perhaps I'll >post the unfinished effort later. > >Reuben Encouraging noises. was it a difficult job? In what form would you make it available? Alison ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:24:46 PDT From: Rob Clother To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont. Message-ID: <19990603092446.41431.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Una: >Am I the only person in the world who finds Ralph Fiennes deeply >unattractive? The man is cold, passionless, frigid. Or was this the point >you were making, Ann? ;) You haven't seen "Oscar and Lucinda", have you Una? -- Rob (Back on Lysator after a bit of a breather...) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:17:21 +1000 From: Kathryn Andersen To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: [B7L] Re: Ultraworld AU fic Message-ID: <19990603071721.A1012@welkin.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 10:30:11AM -0700, Pat Patera wrote: > > > Kathryn Andersen sez: (glad she's not a man) > Yeah, but do you *really* want to be relegated to teleport duty all the > time? Why not? It's much safer. Abseiling at school, I went down third, not first. Kathryn A. -=-=-=-=-=- Vila: You don't have a lot of time for Blake, do you? Avon: I could never stand heroes. Vila: A quarter of a million volts and you're putting your hand in? (Blake's 7: Killer [B7]) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat \_.--.*/ | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:53:36 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <199906030653_MC2-77FD-492@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Calle replied to me: >> Dayna Danielle Cormack (Ephiny) - no special reason except >> that they're both fairly important and sympathetic characters. > >*ponder* No, she looks too experienced. How about Willa O'Neill > (Lila, Gabrielle's sister)? I did think briefly of Lila, but with Gabby as Servalan that sets up a rather odd dynamic... Anyway, I thought it should be an Amazon. Pat P suggested: >(Jennifer Sky?) Emerys, Amazon warrior (the fiesty redhead in Endgame) She occurred to me too (though won't have done to Calle as he hasn't seen that episode yet), but she seems too minor a guest. I'm more and more certain it's Danielle Cormack - think of Ephiny's first episode, where she's young and aggressive and out to kill Centaurs. Or imagine Dayna was pregnant by a Sarran who was horribly murdered. Yes! Dayna was pregnant by Lauren! Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:53:30 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" Subject: [B7L] Fiennes (was re casting, cont) Message-ID: <199906030653_MC2-77FD-491@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Una wrote: >The other one can act, but he has a funny chin. I hadn't noticed his chin... My take on Joseph was "the sort of good looks that just make him a pain". Sorry, I seem to be very anti-looks this week. But it's a bit like the stereotyped pneumatic blonde - could be a wonderful actor, but would anyone notice? No strong feelings on Ralph. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: 03 Jun 1999 13:05:47 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes: > Yes! Dayna was pregnant by Lauren! "Mellanby & Daughter Armaments and Marital Aids"? -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Try again. Try harder. -*- Fail again. Fail better. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:41:05 -0700 From: "Ann Basart" To: "Blake's7" Subject: [B7L] What if. . . ? (A non-canonic thought about the crew) Message-Id: <199906031340.GAA13150@oberon.dnai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been thinking about B7 characters I would like to have seen as crew-members. (Very non-canonic thoughts.) My chief nominee, if things had turned out a little differently, is Kasabi, from "Pressure Point." Interesting power interplays possible between her and Blake, the two of them and Avon. Any takers? --Ann abasart@dnai.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:30:45 -0700 From: "Ann Basart" To: "Alison Page" Cc: "Blake's7" Subject: Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont. Message-Id: <199906031339.GAA13135@oberon.dnai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Una said - > >Am I the only person in the world who finds Ralph Fiennes deeply unattractive? Evidently not. But I don't agree. > > The man is cold, passionless, frigid. Well, he has certainly played cold _roles_ (I don't know about the _man_.) He evidently played a passionate Hamlet on Broadway, and his T.E. Lawrence (in "A Dangerous Man") had fires underneath. > > Or was this the point you were making, Ann? ;) In a way. I see Avon a bit like Neil Burnside (the part Roy Marsden played on the Sandbaggers"). The warmth is there but buried way down. Both are very intelligent. Both can be nasty and snarling, and even ruthless and cynical. (Burnside is much nastier than Avon.) But there _is_ something attractive, there is a promise of warmth . . . and that's what I thought Ralph Fiennes might bring out. > I was pondering earlier why these cold characters are so attractive. I've been wondering the same thing. (At least in regard to Avon & Burnside.) It's also the wit, the intelligence, the feeling of something held back. If anyone wants to pursue an "Avon-Burnside" thread, I'd be delighted. --Ann abasart@dnai.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:13:11 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <19990515.101652.8670.0.Rilliara@juno.com> Hi, I'm back after a minor leave of absence. All I can say is, everyone's ignoring the perfect Blake's 7 crew. Isn't it obvious? Blake--Skipper Avon--Gilligan Cally--Mary Anne Jenna--Mrs. Howell Vila--Mr. Howell Servalan--Ginger Travis--The Professor On the other hand, after posting this, maybe people will want me to take another leave of absence. Ellynne ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:16:51 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <19990515.101652.8670.1.Rilliara@juno.com> On Thu, 03 Jun 1999 00:08:59 -0700 mistral@ptinet.net writes: > > >Steve Rogerson wrote: > >> Though thinking about it again, Willow as Avon makes more sense as >they >> are both computer experts. > >Maybe Willow is Avon's long-lost daughter. > Evil, Mistral, truly evil. Especially since I can now see a story taking shape in my mind. It would be par for the course in Sunnydale, and it would also explain a lot about the leather loving, vampire Willow. Of course, Avon would probably scare the Sunnydale vampires more than the mayor does. . . . Ellynne >-- >"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 03 Jun 1999 20:18:38 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII "Ellynne G." writes: > On the other hand, after posting this, maybe people will want me to take > another leave of absence. Or do their worst to out-sick you (Blake - Papa Smurf, Avon - the smurf with glasses,...) -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Try again. Try harder. -*- Fail again. Fail better. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:36:05 -0600 From: Penny Dreadful To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990603123605.0088d390@mail.geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:18 PM 6/3/99 +0200, Calle Dybedahl wrote: >"Ellynne G." writes: > >> On the other hand, after posting this, maybe people will want me to take >> another leave of absence. > >Or do their worst to out-sick you (Blake - Papa Smurf, Avon - the >smurf with glasses,...) Snow White Servalan and Blake's Seven Dwarves... -- For A Dreadful Time, Call Penny: http://members.tripod.com/~Penny_Dreadful/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:48:51 +-100 From: Louise Rutter To: "'B7 Lysator'" Subject: RE: [B7L] re: casting, cont. Message-ID: <01BEADFA.7EFEA740@tracy> Ralph Fiennes cont... > > The man is cold, passionless, frigid. >Well, he has certainly played cold _roles_ (I don't know about the _man_.) >He evidently played a passionate Hamlet on Broadway, and his T.E. Lawrence >(in "A Dangerous Man") had fires underneath. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to know when _not_ to act cold. He played Steed without any of the humour that made the original so likeable. I suppose that could be partly the director's fault, though, if you wanted to be generous. Louise ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:24:41 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: B7 Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <3756C869.31EF2352@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Calle Dybedahl wrote: > > hmmmmm. Ephiny would make a perfect Blake > That would be interesting, yes. Maybe we can do an all-female cast... > > > off topic: has anyone heard any spoilers about how the show Xena is > > going to salvage this season's cliff hanger? > Plase wait a couple of weeks before discussing this any more, OK. I deliberately gave nothing away, as every season ends with a dramatic cliff hanger :-) Thx for the web address. > > > what is combat undressing? > ...then C starts ripping Xena's > clothes off and putting them on herself very, very quickly. Oh yes, *now* I remember. Quite a trick, that. hmmm. I wonder if Vila can do that one? ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:55:06 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: B7 Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] What if. . . ? Message-ID: <3756CF8A.74904B40@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ann Basart wrote: > I've been thinking about B7 characters I would like to have seen as > crew-members. (Very non-canonic thoughts.) > My chief nominee, if things had turned out a little differently, is Kasabi, > from "Pressure Point." Interesting power interplays possible between her > and Blake, the two of them and Avon. Any takers? > You want power plays? How about Avalon, having very different ideas from Blake over how to run a Revolution? Stand offs between her tinyness and his largeness would be amusing: a true battle of wills. I'd like to see Tyce Sarkoff join up cuz I can really see her and Avon going at it. (no, not that way: verbal sparring to send the sarcatic-o-meter off the scale. well, ok: that way, too) I'd love to see Tyce and Cally moving as a matched set of lean mean fighting machines. With Kick-ass Kasabi as their strike squad leader, of course. The pleasant young doctor/assistant from research station RT-19 (?) would lighten the atmosphere. And certainly the women of Blakes 7 could use the attentions of a crew man who is not blind to their obvious charms. i.e. "Helloooo. This ship is full of pretty girls!") Blake: "What'd you say? I've got tangled curls?" Avon: "What? The circutry's being torn by squirrels?!?! Vila: "Eh? You've brewed a batch of pink squirrels? Pat P http://www.geocities.com/area51/1707 ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:33:51 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: B7 Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <3756CA8F.7707301@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harriet Monkhouse wrote: > > for Dayna: (Jennifer Sky?) Emerys, Amazon warrior (the fiesty redhead in Endgame) > > She occurred to me too, but she seems too minor a guest. I think that like Eli, the "Journeys to India" healer who keeps popping up, Emerys is going to join Autolycus, Solmonious, Discord, etc. as an occasional regular. She's got Dayna's precipitous spirit. (or perhaps she should be cast as Tarrant, if we take Calles' suggestion for an all female crew? - well, but we need a few men to operate the teleport.) Sadie Hawkins Day organizer, Pat P P.S. This is one area where Blakes 7 could have been improved: letting us meet them again so we know what happened to some of the stronger supporting characters we meet: Tyce Sarkoff, Avalon, Bek, Kasabi's daughter, etc. hmmmm. Trying to think of a few more, but it seems they're all dead. Our crew is mad, bad and verrrrry dangerous to know! ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:52:29 PDT From: Hellen Paskaleva To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] re: casting, cont. Message-ID: <19990603195229.71566.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >Rob asked: >You haven't seen "Oscar and Lucinda", have you Una? Dunno about Una, but *I* did. Several days ago. And I didn't like the guy there, also. Hellen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:46:19 +1000 From: Kathryn Andersen To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <19990604064619.A1052@welkin.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:16:51AM -0600, Ellynne G. wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Jun 1999 00:08:59 -0700 mistral@ptinet.net writes: > > > >Steve Rogerson wrote: > > > >> Though thinking about it again, Willow as Avon makes more sense as > >they > >> are both computer experts. > > > >Maybe Willow is Avon's long-lost daughter. > > > Evil, Mistral, truly evil. Especially since I can now see a story taking > shape in my mind. It would be par for the course in Sunnydale, and it > would also explain a lot about the leather loving, vampire Willow. > > Of course, Avon would probably scare the Sunnydale vampires more than the > mayor does. . . . So does that mean that Avon *is* really a Jew, like Leah suggested a couple of years ago? -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat \_.--.*/ | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:59:59 -0700 (PDT) From: J MacQueen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Was that who I thought it was? Message-ID: <19990603225959.28281.rocketmail@web902.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Were any of the other Australians on this list watching that thing on spying shown on ABC last night? The English translation of the Russian spy's methods sounded like someone with the initials P and D, but I'm not sure. No credits were given for it at the end of the programme, or, at least, not that I saw. I'd like to believe it was, but two jawas walked past me on my way to the bus stop after work. There is no punchline but I did find myself in a state of disbelief for the evening. Can anyone help with identifying that voice? Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:14:19 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <37570C4A.7031F309@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ellynne G. wrote: > >Maybe Willow is Avon's long-lost daughter. > > > Evil, Mistral, truly evil. Especially since I can now see a story taking > shape in my mind. Lovely. Now let it take shape at the keyboard! > It would be par for the course in Sunnydale, and it > would also explain a lot about the leather loving, vampire Willow. Ooh, you read my mind. > Of course, Avon would probably scare the Sunnydale vampires more than the > mayor does. . . . I could get really excited (well, for an INTP anyway) about an all B7/Buffy crossover zine. Anybody else? Grins, Mistral -- "The whole idea is an absurd fantasy."--Avon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:19:52 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting Message-ID: <37570D98.93844ED@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathryn Andersen wrote (re Willow as Avon's daughter): > So does that mean that Avon *is* really a Jew, like Leah suggested a > couple of years ago? Maybe so, but Willow is probably adopted; can't see Avon choosing to answer to Ira Rosenberg. Nor can I picture him with Willow's mom, who is, IIRC, a total space cadet. Grins, Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:32:35 +1000 From: "David Henderson" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting (pls no spoilers) Message-ID: <004401beae19$5c5d8200$653bdb89@lemon.jcu.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >mistral@ptinet.net writes: >>Steve Rogerson wrote: >> >>> Though thinking about it again, Willow as Avon makes more sense as >>they >>> are both computer experts. Willow (as in the character) could not do the irony/sarcasm that helps to define Avon. >>Maybe Willow is Avon's long-lost daughter. yowsaa >Evil, Mistral, truly evil. Especially since I can now see a story taking >shape in my mind. It would be par for the course in Sunnydale, and it >would also explain a lot about the leather loving, vampire Willow. I am hoping the term "vampire Willow" is not an indication of things to come??? (and please don't tell me if it is) Australia is only starting season three .....bugger now I'm going to be worrying about Willow and I'm just getting over the fact she has cut her hair! :) daveH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:25:38 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Even more casting (pls no spoilers) Message-ID: <37571D01.5088C64D@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Henderson wrote: > Willow (as in the character) could not do the irony/sarcasm that helps to > define Avon. But Will does irony all the time; just not with the nasty edge that Avon has. If Willow were his long-lost daughter, we could think of her as a younger, more innocent, female Avon--one who hasn't been knocked around so much. She has gotten gradually edgier since day one, don't you think? (Has anybody Myers-Briggsed the Buffy gang? I could see Willow as INTP.) > I am hoping the term "vampire Willow" is not an indication of things to > come??? > (and please don't tell me if it is) Australia is only starting season three > .....bugger now I'm going to be worrying about Willow and I'm just getting > over > the fact she has cut her hair! :) As one Willow fan to another, Dave, just relax and enjoy the show. Whatever happens (and I'm not saying either way) you are gonna love it. Grins, Mistral -- "And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #181 **************************************