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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 23

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> Date:          Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:33:00 +0100 (MET)
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> blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 321
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 	 Re: [B7L] Travis, etc.
> 	 Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> 	 Re: [B7L] T.'s Offer to S. in 'The Keeper'
> 	 Re: [B7L] Post-War Politics
> 	 Re: [B7L] Post-War Politics
> 	 [B7L] Re: Casting
> 	 Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> 	 Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> 	 Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> 	 Re: [B7L] Re: Casting
> 	 FW: [B7L] Travis has three faces
> 	 RE: [B7L] RPG
> 	 Re: [B7L] RPG
> 	 Re: [B7L] RPG
> 	 [B7L] zine prices
> 	 [B7L] Space Fall
> 	 [B7L] OT: ah been cut off from worl
> 	 Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:55:49 -0000
> From: "Jenni -Alison" <Jenni-Alison@dial.pipex.com>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis, etc.
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> Neil wrote:
> 
> > Iasked who, not why.  The why is obvious. 
> 
> If Servalan seized power during the crisis of Star One, which was somewhat
> unanticipated, she may have leapt before she was ready. Her influence might
> well have extended far enough to knock out the influential members of the
> high council, but could she really have had enough people in place to kill
> off all bureaucrats  - councilors in waiting ready to fill the old members
> shoes when time allowed? With the unexpectedly high losses of troops and
> ships in the conflict with the Andromedans her hold on power could well
> have been tenuous at best. I suggest that she may have had the slenderest
> of holds on power, and the frequency with which she was forced to leave the
> centre of power, combined possibly with the abortive coup lead by Sula,
> destabilised her sufficiently that the remaining support group centred
> around the ex-councillors combined could elevate and appoint new
> Councillors, call on political or familial loyalties within the military
> (may commanders could well be family members for high placed political
> Alphas) and declare Servalan a traitor while she was off on a mission with
> some of her most loyal officers. After all, Travis was so much better than
> what she had left, and he didn't turn out that effective, did he?
> 
> Jenni
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:17:28 -0000
> From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
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> >Because of the spiders, it was only safe to harvest kairopan for the seven
> >days after the vernal equinox.  The plan was to steal the kairopan when it
> was
> >in transport.  The impression the episode gives is that the heist would
> have
> >succeeded if Tarrant hadn't been up against someone who knew  him so
> >well--Jarvik.  Tarrant easily outwits a standard Federation trap early in
> the
> >episode.  Tarrant's military background gave him an edge in that case.  His
> >military background--most specifically the time he served under
> Jarvik--worked
> >against him later.
> 
> 
> The trouble with 'Harvest' is it's too concerned with ranting from a soapbox
> and not nearly concerned enough with making sense.  The central thrust of
> Ben Steed's luddite tirade is that we poor human beings are degraded,
> deluded and dehumanised by the relentless march of technological progress.
> Hence we get Jarvik, who as a 'real man' is ultimately nothing more than an
> untypically rugged Mary Sue.  He proves he's a bona fide Ubermensch by
> lobotomising a couple of troopers, fooling Tarrant and capturing the
> Liberator with a ruse the Brady Bunch could see through, and giving Servalan
> the good hard shagging she's been needing for years.  Rambo's almost a pinko
> drip by comparison.
> 
> And it all hangs on a plot that doesn't bear examination.  All that
> technology that Jarviks rails against would make short work of any marauding
> spiders.  Or since the kairopan (just what was it valuable for anyway?)
> simply lies around on the surface, it could be collected by robots.
> 
> I don't really know much about Ben Steed, but he comes across as a closet
> fantasy-monger who thinks SF falls under the same umbrella.  And why does he
> always have to peddle his misogyny in every episode he writes?  He's worse
> than Robert Holmes and his homophobia.
> 
> Neil (aka Rik)
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:49:03 -0000
> From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] T.'s Offer to S. in 'The Keeper'
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> >Can I be Vyvyan, then?
> 
> Oi, no!  Bagsy me for Vyvyan.  Actually I'm more of a Rik, and I'm only
> *calling* myself Neil to *confuse* you and it actually worked rather well
> didn't it, which is really pretty 'anarchic' when you think about it.
> >
> >>Disagree completely. Servalan believed in the Federation.
> >
> >She tried to rip them off in 'Deliverance'/'Orac' and 'Weapon', screwed
> >them over to save her own skin in 'Pressure Point', *and* overthrew them
> >at her earliest viable opportunity in 'Star One'. She may well have
> >believed in *Servalan's Federation* (cf. Dave Barry, beating Terry
> >Pratchett to the punch, I think -  and I paraphrase: 'Power to the
> >People: i.e. Power to Me and a Few of My Friends Who Know What's Good
> >For The People') but inasmuch as loyalty to the Federation means
> >respecting/obeying its precedents...No. Servalan is an Eva Peron who did
> >not have the misfortune to die at 33.
> >Or was that Jesus?
> >
> Servalan believed in the Federation, just as Hitler believed in Germany.
> When you know what's good for everyone else, you're driven by something far
> higher and nobler than mere personal ambition.  Just look at Blake.  For
> Servalan, power was a means to an end.  And an end which justified any means
> at that.
> 
> 
> >>Who the frag is frag, and if you revere Him so, why don't you capitalise
> >His name?
> 
> Frag is shorthand for 'fragmentation'.  As in grenade.  It can also be
> regarded as a euphemism.
> >
> >>>Travis didn't want all that power, too complicated, messy. He wanted
> >>>*access* to all that power. He wanted Servalan to take control and
> >just
> >>>give him whatever he asked for (Ships to chase Blake. Guns to shoot
> >>>Blake. Knives to stab Blake).
> >>
> >>Nope, he wanted to take out Star One, let the Andromedans in, and wave
> >>bye-bye to the human race.  Since he went to Star One believing he was
> >the
> >>only one knowing where it was, he had no reason to expect Blake to be
> >there.
> >>Ergo eliminating Blake had become a lesser priority.
> >
> >Aaah, I really would like to disagree with Neil here, but that's always
> >been my reading...
> 
> Then you're right, aren't you...
> >
> >>Travis needed to believe that Servalan, along with
> >>the rest of the Federation, was corrupt beyond redemption.  His offer
> >of
> >>Star One on Goth was his way of testing Servalan.  The result ran
> >counter to
> >>his expectations but he went ahead anyway.
> >
> >Yes, no doubt in my mind, it *was* by way of testing Servalan, but I
> >don't imagine his reasoning was that *rational*.
> 
> Whoever said it had to be?  He was one poor mixed-up bunny by that stage,
> albeit the kind that bites people's heads off.
> 
> Neil
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:07:01 -0000
> From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Post-War Politics
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> Jenni Allison wrote:
> 
> >If Servalan seized power during the crisis of Star One, which was somewhat
> >unanticipated, she may have leapt before she was ready.
> 
> She knew Blake was looking for Star One, she'd be a right fool to believe
> that Travis might not have found it.  So she had some forewarning that a
> crisis involving Star One was in the offing.  By saying 'she may have leapt
> before she was ready', which suggests she had been planning a coup for some
> time.  There's no real evidence for that, as I recall.  In fact, her removal
> of the President and High Council seems to be motivated by her belief that
> *they* are the ones tinkering with Star One, so she was forced to stage a
> coup in order to save the Federation from this enemy within.
> 
> On the other hand, that might just have been her excuse, though personally I
> don't think so.
> 
> >Her influence might
> >well have extended far enough to knock out the influential members of the
> >high council, but could she really have had enough people in place to kill
> >off all bureaucrats  - councilors in waiting ready to fill the old members
> >shoes when time allowed?
> 
> Would she need to?  Most of those scrambling up the ladder of power don't
> really care who's at top, they just want to make it to the next rung up.  In
> fact, many would welcome a change of management - a whole brand new pair of
> shoes to lick.
> 
> >With the unexpectedly high losses of troops and
> >ships in the conflict with the Andromedans her hold on power could well
> >have been tenuous at best.
> 
> This was first mooted, I think, in 'Harvest' ("There isn't a Federation any
> more" - Tarrant), and things didn't seem to have got much better by
> 'Moloch'.
> 
> >...the remaining support group centred
> >around the ex-councillors combined could elevate and appoint new
> >Councillors, call on political or familial loyalties within the military
> ><snip>  and declare Servalan a traitor
> 
> Quite possible.  Although the magic words are never mentioned, I think the
> Federation was thrown into a state of civil war following the Andromedan
> invasion.  Evidence is slender, though:
>     - Chesku talked of "Earth and the Inner Planets being reunited", so
> presumably they had been divided for a while.  Perhaps this was one of
> Servalan's few successes?  Control of Earth would give her a considerable
> edge, if only psychological.
>     - CA1 referred to a galactic rather than intergalactic war, possibly
> indicating galaxy-wide infighting.  More likely a slip up by Roger Parkes,
> though.
>     - Justin cited the rest of the research team on Bucol 2 being wiped out
> by an enemy gunship.  If the enemy were alien, you'd think he might have
> mentioned that.  But then again, perhaps not.
> 
> One thing I do suspect strongly is that Servalan was not deposed by a
> military faction.  The High Council was restored after she was deposed
> (which implies she dissolved the Council at some point after 'Rumours'), not
> replaced by a military government.  Also, there is no mention of Space
> Command throughout the 4th Season, suggesting that the new civilian
> government was determined not to give the military the same kind of
> quasi-autonomy it had enjoyed in the pre-War days.  Which endorses what
> Jenni suggests above, that familial and ideological loyalties ultimately
> took precedence over professional ones.
> 
> Thank you, Jenni.
> 
> Neil
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:07:01 EST
> From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Post-War Politics
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> In a message dated 98-12-29 21:15:40 EST, Neil wrote:
> 
> << One thing I do suspect strongly is that Servalan was not deposed by a
>  military faction.  The High Council was restored after she was deposed
>  (which implies she dissolved the Council at some point after 'Rumours'), not
>  replaced by a military government.  Also, there is no mention of Space
>  Command throughout the 4th Season, suggesting that the new civilian
>  government was determined not to give the military the same kind of
>  quasi-autonomy it had enjoyed in the pre-War days.  Which endorses what
>  Jenni suggests above, that familial and ideological loyalties ultimately
>  took precedence over professional ones.
>   >>
> 
> This raises a question.  In the fourth season, was it the Federation that was
> after the Scorpio crew or was it primarily Servalan/Sleer?  She seemed to be
> behind the attempts to capture or kill them, and in episodes such as
> "Assassin," I got the impression that it was a personal vendetta, perhaps
> because they could identify her as Servalan.  She either wanted them dead or
> under her control where they could don her no harm.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:14:51 -0500
> From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] Re: Casting
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> Joanne replied:
> >Harriet said: 
> >>If Basil is Krantor, can Manuel be Toise?
> 
> >Can't see it myself (the ABC is repeating Fawlty 
> >Towers on Saturday  nights at the moment). How 
> >about Sybil? Well, it's just a suggestion.  Sybil and 
> >Basil seem to be operating on roughly the same 
> >planet, as do Krantor and Toise. Manuel might 
> >be better off as the croupier.
> 
> If anything, I'd have Sybil as the Croupier.  Polly is Chenie, and I think
> the Major might be Docholli.  The casting for Cevedic doesn't immediately
> strike me.
> 
> Harriet
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:18:36 EST
> From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
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> In a message dated 98-12-29 21:15:27 EST, Neil wrote:
> 
> << And it all hangs on a plot that doesn't bear examination.  All that
>  technology that Jarviks rails against would make short work of any marauding
>  spiders.  Or since the kairopan (just what was it valuable for anyway?)
>  simply lies around on the surface, it could be collected by robots.
>   >>
> 
> Perhaps the kairopan would be damaged by robots, or robots were too expensive.
> I remember an anecdote one of my history professors told.  He was in Turkey.
> He saw a refridgerator unloaded off a ship ans several men picked it up and
> started carrying it down the road.  He asked what was going on and was told
> that the fridge was being delivered to a town something like a hundred miles
> away.  It was cheaper to hire several men to carry that fridge on foot than it
> was to get a truck.  The Federation didn't seem to be particularly concerned
> about people's lives.
> 
> As for the spiders, maybe they were as tough as cockroaches or something.  For
> all our technology, there's not too much we can do about them.  And perhaps
> the kairopan was essential to a manufacturing process or was refined into
> something else.  Silver ore doesn't look like much either.
> 
> Tiger M
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:31:17 PST
> From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> Message-ID: <19981230033118.5224.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> >The trouble with 'Harvest' is it's too concerned with ranting from a 
> >soapbox and not nearly concerned enough with making sense.  [snip] 
> >And it all hangs on a plot that doesn't bear examination.  All that 
> >technology that Jarviks rails against would make short work of any 
> >marauding spiders.  Or since the kairopan (just what was it valuable 
> >for anyway?) simply lies around on the surface, it could be collected 
> >by robots.
> 
> <wide-eyed> Thank you, Neil. Would it be better if I avoided that 
> episode if it ever came my way? Or does it have to be seen to be 
> believed? <grin> 
> 
> Mind you, the same writer was responsible for "Power", wasn't he, and I 
> haven't seen that either. Which episode is worse? (You are at liberty to 
> point to other episodes as being truly bad, if you wish.)
> 
> Regards
> Joanne
> 
> When you're seaching your soul, when you're searching for pleasure
> How often pain is all you'll find
> But when you're coasting along & nobody's trying too hard
> You can turn around and like where you are
> --The Sundays, When I'm Thinking About You
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:08:21 -0600
> From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> Message-Id: <199812300404.WAA06563@mail.dallas.net>
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> 
> Joanne MacQueen wrote:
> 
> >Would it be better if I avoided that  episode if it ever came my way? Or 
> >does it have to be seen to be believed? <grin> 
> 
> Oh, you *have* to see "Harvest". It's one of the funniest episodes of the
> whole series.
> 
> 	- Lisa
> _____________________________________________________________
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> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:22:07 -0600
> From: "Lorna B." <msdelta@magnolia.net>
> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Casting
> Message-Id: <199812300416.WAA21197@pemberton.magnolia.net>
> 
> Harriet said:
> 
> >If anything, I'd have Sybil as the Croupier.  Polly is Chenie, and I think
> >the Major might be Docholli.  The casting for Cevedic doesn't immediately
> >strike me.
> 
> How about Terry the Cook?  Or better still--O'Reilly the contractor.
> Competence was hardly his middle name either...
> 
> Lorna B.
> "Cookies and porn?  You're the best mom ever!"
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:59:13 +1030
> From: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>
> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: FW: [B7L] Travis has three faces
> Message-ID: <AE6AF4DBBDA8D111B1D200AA00DD6129015E92BF@EXSTUDENT4.Magill.UniSA.Edu.Au>
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Judith Proctor [SMTP:Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk]
> > Sent:	Monday, 14 December 1998 3:56
> > To:	Lysator List
> > Subject:	Re: [B7L] Travis has three faces
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >> 1980 Blake's 7 annual, published by IPC.
> > >> Why is Travis a guy with a goatee and no obvious cybernetic attachments?
> > 
> > >Probably because the artists lived overseas and had hardly any reference
> > >pictures.  You'll find the same few character costumes crop up again and
> > again,
> > >even when they were no longer being worn on screen.
> > >I'd bet that they simply didn't known what he looked like.  (They usually
> > get
> > >his rank wrong in the annuals)
> > >Judith
> > 
> > 
> > So, is this the answer? Poor source material? Does anyone know who the artist
> > was?
> > 
> > Homophobic or not, Robert Holmes was still The Man! A Holmes script is
> > readily identifiable through equal parts Drama and Sadism.
> > 
> > What about the film clip of "Learning to Fly"? The one with the guy reaping a
> > field and then jumping off a cliff with a couple of feathers? Couldn't escape
> > it in 1988!
> > 
> > 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:24:41 +1030
> From: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>
> To: "'Dangermouse'" <master@sol.co.uk>, lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: RE: [B7L] RPG
> Message-ID: <AE6AF4DBBDA8D111B1D200AA00DD6129015E92C0@EXSTUDENT4.Magill.UniSA.Edu.Au>
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> 
> > ----------
> > > From: calle@lysator.liu.se
> > > Unless it's a very, *very* strange campaign, Orac absolutely should
> > > not be a player character.
> > 
> 	Dangermouse 
> > Hm.
> > 
> > Again, I could see him work in Paranoia...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 	I like Paranoia. My players are undecided.
> 	Martin
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:02:36 -0000
> From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
> To: <ARBoddy@aol.com>
> Cc: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] RPG
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> ----------
> > From: ARBoddy@aol.com
> > > Again, I could see him work in Paranoia...
> >  
> > As a PC?  He'd be rather hampered, wouldn't he?  No functional
> > mobility, and given the nature of the computers with which he'd have
> > to interact, the player would be making insanity rolls every few
> > minutes. [Insert smiley here]
> 
> Still, it'd be a challenge.
> 
> >    As an NPC, though, it'd be fun, since we all know what the
> > Computer's reaction would be.
> 
> Absolutely, which is mainly what I meant.
>  
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:01:43 -0000
> From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
> To: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>,
>         "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] RPG
> Message-Id: <199812301315.NAA08187@gnasher.sol.co.uk>
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> ----------
> > From: Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001 <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>
> > 	I like Paranoia. My players are undecided.
> 
> Yeah, it's generally better for the GM - who at least gets to see how funny
> the plot can be...
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:10:41 +0100 (BST)
> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> To: Space City <Space-city@world.std.com>
> cc: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] zine prices
> Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1230191041-965Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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> As of 10 January the prices of all Linda Knight's zines will be going up by a
> minimum of 20 cents  because of increased US postal rates.  (Zines that she
> agents from me will be unaffected as UK postal rates have not changed)
> 
> If you get an order in before 10 Jan (or before 9 Jan if ordering via me in the
> UK) then you'll get the zines at the current price.
> 
> Judith
> -- 
> http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
> 
> Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
> 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
> http://www.smof.com/redemption/
> 
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> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:14:17 -0000
> From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] Space Fall
> Message-Id: <199812302018.UAA09861@gnasher.sol.co.uk>
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> Oh, I was just flicking through the BBFC's website and it says the
> rerelease this year was uncut- wish I'd bought one now...
> 
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> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:20:56 +1100 (EST)
> From: kat@welkin.apana.org.au (Kathryn Andersen)
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se (Blake's 7 list)
> Subject: [B7L] OT: ah been cut off from worl
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> 
> This is terribly off-topic, but if anyone's been trying to email me
> for the past few days, it may not have gotten through, since a site
> upstream from welkin got its disk filled up and went comatose for a
> few days.
> 
> ObB7: This of course reminds me of my usual perennial wondering; what
> is a Tarriel Cell really?  And how widespread were voice-recognition
> computers in the Federation?  I got the impression that they were rare
> because the standard interface we see the plebs and Servalan's people
> using was a keyboard.  I assumed that this was because computers able
> to understand voice commands were really expensive.
> 
> However, another thought has just occurred to me -- maybe at least in
> the military, voice-recognition computers weren't used for security
> reasons.  Yes, voice-recognition as a way of preventing unauthorised
> persons *using* the computer would seem to be a *positive* security
> aspect - but get one audio bug in a command centre, and there goes all
> your security.  The other thing is that it might be clearer if spoken
> commands only went to people; it might confuse the computer if a lot
> of people were talking at once.  After all, Slave was considered to be
> *unusually* sophisticated, so maybe other voice-recognition computers
> were limited to being rich people's playthings, or academic perks.
> 
> Kathryn Andersen
> A.S.K.S.
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> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:59:09 -0000
> From: "Paul Whalley" <PAWhalley@serpiente.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: "Blakes7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joanne MacQueen <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Date: 30 December 1998 03:46
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
> 
> 
> 
> ><wide-eyed> Thank you, Neil. Would it be better if I avoided that
> >episode if it ever came my way? Or does it have to be seen to be
Dita, President and Supreme Commander of the Terran Federation.

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