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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 247
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Re: Wanka (see Viz comic for more details)
RE: [B7L] Re: Wanka (see Viz comic for more details)
Re: [B7L] Re: Wanka (see Viz comic for more details)
Re: [B7L] I think it would be a bad thing to do today... (Pt 2)
[B7L] OT First Frontier
Re: [B7L] No adult subject matter!?!, among other things.
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 23:26:49 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Wanka (see Viz comic for more details)
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NJackD wrote:
>To Neil Sevencyclopaedia: yes I agree with you, crystals would require
>refining. But I'm not sure Fosforon is 3000 light years away; its a
>fictional creation and therefore should best be put at around 10 light
>years away, which is far enough for anything to happen. A light year is
>a vast distance, after all!
Blake commented that Wanderer K47 should have taken 3000 years to reach
Fosforon, placing the planet at any distance within 3000 ly from Earth. It
depends on just how fast (or rather slow) the ship was. But much more than
10 ly, surely, since its original voyage was to 61 Cygni, itself only 11 ly
from Earth. I can't really see the ship being intentionally launched on a
3000 year voyage.
In Star One, Liberator went beyond the edge of the galaxy, and the
Federation had already ventured out that far. If we think of the galaxy as
a pizza, and Earth as a small sprig of parsley about two thirds of the way
out from the centre, then we have two options. Either Star One is beyond
the rim of the pizza, somewhere near the large dollop of ketchup on the
fringe of the dinner mat, or it is hovering somewhere above the pizza (or
lurking under the plate). Travelling from Star One to Earth would thus
entail either heading ketchupwards, a matter of thousands of light years
(big pizza), or leaping up from its surface (or drilling down through the
plate) which would be more in the region of hundreds of light years. The
episode doesn't make it clear which. Perhaps someone (Iain? Are you there,
Iain?) might know how a direct line of flight from M31 ('Andromeda')
intersects the Milky Way.
If Star One is in the ketchup (as I've tended to assume, admittedly without
firm evidence) then the series encompasses an enormous swathe of space,
comprising millions of stars and hundreds (if not thousands) of potentially
habitable planets. If on the other hand Star One hoves above the pizza like
a hungry bluebottle with a penchant for soggy mozarella, then the
Federation's sphere of influence is considerably smaller.
Given that (a) habitable planets were fairly common in the series, (b) such
planets are probably very rare, (c) planets seemed to be preferred to
artificial space habitats, and (d) no mention was ever made of terraforming,
then B7 probably takes place in a sizable chunk of galaxy (perhaps a fifth
of it), tens of thousands of light years across, though ultimately the only
basis on which to accept or reject this premise is probably an aesthetic
one. I prefer a Big Galaxy - much more Epic - but you can have a small one
if you want.
Neil
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 22:42:50 +0200
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Re: Wanka (see Viz comic for more details)
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Neil wrote:
> If we think of the galaxy as
> a pizza, and Earth as a small sprig of parsley about two thirds of the way
> out from the centre, then we have two options. Either Star One is beyond
> the rim of the pizza, somewhere near the large dollop of ketchup on the
> fringe of the dinner mat, or it is hovering somewhere above the pizza (or
> lurking under the plate). Travelling from Star One to Earth would thus
> entail either heading ketchupwards, a matter of thousands of light years
> (big pizza), or leaping up from its surface (or drilling down through the
> plate) which would be more in the region of hundreds of light years.
>
The Pizza school of astronomics, huh? I like it :-). So what does this make
a bite of pizza, ten spacials?
Jacqueline
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:02:13 +1000
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Wanka (see Viz comic for more details)
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On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 11:26:49PM +0100, Neil Faulkner wrote:
> In Star One, Liberator went beyond the edge of the galaxy, and the
> Federation had already ventured out that far. If we think of the galaxy as
> a pizza, and Earth as a small sprig of parsley about two thirds of the way
> out from the centre, then we have two options. Either Star One is beyond
> the rim of the pizza, somewhere near the large dollop of ketchup on the
> fringe of the dinner mat, or it is hovering somewhere above the pizza (or
> lurking under the plate). Travelling from Star One to Earth would thus
> entail either heading ketchupwards, a matter of thousands of light years
> (big pizza), or leaping up from its surface (or drilling down through the
> plate) which would be more in the region of hundreds of light years. The
> episode doesn't make it clear which. Perhaps someone (Iain? Are you there,
> Iain?) might know how a direct line of flight from M31 ('Andromeda')
> intersects the Milky Way.
I would expect that it's so far away that it doesn't make much
difference, really -- except that it was explicitly stated that Star
One was placed there because it was known that Star One was in the
"direct line of flight"... I'm eating my foot here.
> If Star One is in the ketchup (as I've tended to assume, admittedly without
> firm evidence) then the series encompasses an enormous swathe of space,
> comprising millions of stars and hundreds (if not thousands) of potentially
> habitable planets. If on the other hand Star One hoves above the pizza like
> a hungry bluebottle with a penchant for soggy mozarella, then the
> Federation's sphere of influence is considerably smaller.
>
> Given that (a) habitable planets were fairly common in the series, (b) such
> planets are probably very rare, (c) planets seemed to be preferred to
> artificial space habitats, and (d) no mention was ever made of terraforming,
Well, the closest they come is weather control.
> then B7 probably takes place in a sizable chunk of galaxy (perhaps a fifth
> of it), tens of thousands of light years across, though ultimately the only
> basis on which to accept or reject this premise is probably an aesthetic
> one. I prefer a Big Galaxy - much more Epic - but you can have a small one
> if you want.
For an Outside explanation, I don't think the writers really thought
about it.
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:18:57 EST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] I think it would be a bad thing to do today... (Pt 2)
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<smile> Carol, charming as ever, wrote:
>Joanne (more stressed than before her vacation ;-) wrote:
> > Why the hell is Tarrant so calm at the beginning?
>They had a rule that someone had to be calm at all times. It was >his
>turn. :)
So why is it never Vila's turn? If it comes to that, why was it Avon's turn
at all? Darrow made him sound about as close to hysterical as Mr Logic can
get.
> > Is he on something?
>That's a possibility I hadn't considered. I like it.
That fits in very nicely with what appears to be the Tarrant Nostra's
masterplan, partially revealed later on - it would, undoubtedly, be easier
to tie him up that way.
> > I'd presume he'd be more worried, with Vila missing
> > presumed drunk. Then he wants to leave Vila on the planet when
> > trouble does start -
>That was definitely out of character. You mention fourth season,
<grin> Only because the story is meant to be set in the fourth series, as
opposed to some sort of alternative fourth series, where everyone is not
quite what they ought to be. It is tempting to call this the Bazza
Continuum, or some such thing.
>IOW, you couldn't get Tarrant more out of character if you made him
> >homely.
<big grin> And that would be the final straw, wouldn't it, Carol?
> > The Purple Nightingale bit, and Madame Gaskia as an old flame of >
> >Avon's - ugh!
>What? You didn't think they were a match made in heaven? ;-)
;-P (recycling Carol's reaction to being baited about Tarrant, yet again)
> > and been hunting for homing beacons on Tarrant's person at the > >very
>least. (NO! Don't do it! Don't even think about it!)
>Once again, Joanne's tasteful mind takes her where she didn't think >she
>wanted to go. :)
That was meant to stop you from considering it. Although, I'm sure, I had
Buckley's chance (ie that of a snowball in hell) of that <smile>
> > Tarrant's wheedling for Soolin to let him loose - that tone of voice,
>when
> > he suggests that Soolin would have to feed him, might work on Carol
> > (perhaps), but Soolin?
>Now why would I want to *untie* him? ;)
Oh, I don't know. Maybe you'd want to persuade him to do something (left to
your imagination, of course). You and a number of others, but rank hath its
privileges, doesn't it, Godmother? <grin>
> > Final comment:
> > Somwhat better than The Sevenfold Crown, but still not what we >
> >want to hear.
>Agreed.
If a third is in the offing, we will have to start up a chant:
"Whaddawewant? Chris Boucher! Whendawewanim? Now!" Robert Holmes would've
been good, too, but he's not in a position to deliver us from Evil Bazza's
dastardly dialogue and characterisation. Now, I think, I'm being mean. I'll
leave all of those who have heard The Syndeton Experiment to decide if it is
truly merited.
Regards
Joanne
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otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:11:46 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Xena list <xenanet-l@lists.dircon.co.uk>,
Redemption <redemption@smof.demon.co.uk>,
Paula Robinson <Paula.Robinson@RCN.ORG.UK>,
Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] OT First Frontier
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At Wincon over the weekend there were a number of people there connected
with a new British-made sci-fi series that is about to go into
production called First Frontier. They are hoping to start filming later
this year and it should be on the screens late summer, early autumn next
year. It is being made by an independent group called Lightworx and has
funding from the UK and the USA, which may mean the USA gets it first.
In the UK it will probably be shown on ITV.
I missed the talk on the show, but I can tell you the main three actors
are Joe McGann, Claudia Christian and Michael Sheard. Also in it are
Jeremy Bulloch (Boba Fett in Star Wars), Corine Britton, Simon Lewis and
Sue Wetheridge. It is written by Jim Mortimer.
Sorry, not much more info, but it's probably worth keeping an eye out
for.
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson
http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson
Be inconsistent, but not all the time
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:18:21 +1000
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] No adult subject matter!?!, among other things.
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On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 11:38:26PM -0400, Huldah Beasley wrote:
>
> 1.
> No adult subject matter? *sniffles, pouts* Darn. Oh well, I don't mind,
> but you're the one what's got to tell Avon he isn't gonna get any this time
> 'round :)
I believe the Other List, Space City, sorry, Freedom City, is the
place for that. Sorry I don't have subscription details, I'm not a
member.
To explain: there's the lysator list, this list, which is the main
Blake's 7 discussion list. Then there's the Other List, originally
Space City, but now replaced by Freedom City, which is an "anything
goes, and you need to be an adult to join" though I gather that
they're not discussing Adult subject matter *all* the time. Then
there's the Spin-off list (b7spin), whose sole purpose is to be the
place to pursue, without limits, all the off-topic subjects there ever
were. That is, the Spin list's charter is to discuss everything
*except* Blake's 7. That is the family of the Blake's 7 lists.
> 6.
> Conventions. Are there any? And if there are, am I gonna hafta trek my
> butt all the way to England to get to one?
No, there's lots of conventions in the US. MediaWestCon, Ecclecticon
and Visions are the biggest ones (they must be big, even I've heard of
them...)
You'll find links to lots of conventions on Judith's page:
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Speaking of conventions, who's going to Worldcon?
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