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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 263

Today's Topics:
	 [B7L] Re: Spacials
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Spacials
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Spacials
	 Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
	 Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
	 [B7L] Oldbury Power Station
	 Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials 
	 [B7L] ADMIN: Just a test, ignore

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:08:28 +0100
From: "James Mansson ARGO" <jmansson@argo-software.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Spacials
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How about n spacials =3D n squared meters?

E.g. 1,000 spacials =3D 1,000,000 meters (1,000 km).
2,000,000 spacials =3D 4,000,000,000,000 meters (4,000,000,000 km).

Are these values meaningful?

Well, Pluto is about 5,913,520,000 km from the Sun, so the detection =
range should be adequate!

I'm not sure about the orbital distance (1,000 km). Is this plausible?

James


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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>How about n spacials =3D n squared=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>E.g. 1,000 spacials =3D 1,000,000 =
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Date: 06 Sep 1999 11:07:56 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
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"James Mansson ARGO" <jmansson@argo-software.co.uk> writes:

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Ah, there's something I forgot to mention in the FAQ!
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:26:06 +0100 (BST)
From: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Spacials
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On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, James Mansson ARGO wrote:

> How about n spacials = n squared meters?
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> I'm not sure about the orbital distance (1,000 km). Is this plausible?

Yes. This would be a fairly low, fast orbit. Geostationary orbit is about
36000 km, or 6000 spacials.

Iain

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:27:50 +0100
From: "Deborah Day" <d.day@ukgateway.net>
To: "blakes7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
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>> >This is fine as far as it goes, but supposing you were in orbit around a
>> >planet and something was coming towards you from deep space.  Which sort
do
>> >you use - the one that refers to your ship or the incoming one?  They
would
>> >have to have different names - perhaps something like orbit spacials and
>> >speed spacials.  I guess they weren't really thought through at the time
>> and
>> >the different writers just put in something that sounded good.  Also, it
>> >would be difficult to define the size of the solar system - they don't
have
>> >a neat line round the outside
>
>Well, technically speaking, I think the edge is where the solar wind ceases
to
>operate, but I can't recall what stops it.
>

I don't think it has a defined edge as such, but just gradually peters out.

>
>I've got a brand new idea.  Spacials operate on a logarithmic scale.
>
>How would that do?  You could then have small numbers for things close by
and
>bigger numbers for things far off without having to use massive numbers.
>
>ie.  A spacial could be the power to ten of the number of kilometers.  Ten
>kilometers would be 1 spacial, 100 km = 2 spacials.  1000km = 3 spacials,
etc.


 Now this is the best idea yet!  Well done Judith.

Debbie Day.


>

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:25:25 +0100 (BST)
From: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
To: Deborah Day <d.day@ukgateway.net>
Cc: blakes7 <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials
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On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Deborah Day wrote:

> >
> >Well, technically speaking, I think the edge is where the solar wind ceases
> to
> >operate, but I can't recall what stops it.
> >
> 
> I don't think it has a defined edge as such, but just gradually peters out.
> 

The edge of the solar system is the heliopause, where a shock wave slows
the solar wind to subsonic speeds, allowing it to merge with the
interstellar medium. Modelling places this at about 150 AU. (1 AU is the
distance from Earth to the Sun, about 150 million km). To give some idea
of scale, Pluto, the furthest planet, orbits the Sun at a distance of 39.5
AU.

Iain

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:26:30 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Freedom City <freedom-city@blakes-7.org>,
        Benedict Walmisley <BWalmisley@wolf.demon.co.uk>,
        Sarah Tindall <saraht@argonet.co.uk>,
        Daniel Tilley <Daniel.Tilley@port.ac.uk>
Subject: [B7L] Oldbury Power Station
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My local fan club just asked me to organise a trip to Oldbury power station
where several B7 episodes were filmed (Timesquad, Redemption, Killer).

It's in the Bristol area and they seem only to willing to give us a guided tour,
so if other people are intersted in coming too, drop me a line and I'll try and
find a date to take us all.  It can be any day of the week, even Sunday and
there's no charge for the tour.  

The whole tour takes arund two hours of which about an hour and a quarter is
spent in the actual power station.

I'll post full details when a date has been chosen, so if anyone else wants to
come along at that point, they can sign up.

Judith
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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:28:51 +0200
From: Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re [ B7L] Spacials 
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> On the contrary. The main thing you want to know in navigation or battle is
> 'how long subjectively until such and such an event'

It doesn't work all the time, though. How do you clearly specify an orbit?
In this case, you're specifying the result of a function, but not enough
of the variables to resolve it.

steve

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Date: 07 Sep 1999 12:57:12 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] ADMIN: Just a test, ignore
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-- 
 Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
      Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.

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