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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 4
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant (not)
Re: [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship
Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant
[B7L] Vila
[B7L] The Liberator
Re: [B7L] The Liberator
Re: [B7L] Vila
FW: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
FW: [B7L] Free time again
[B7L] Fw: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
Re: [B7L] Free time again
[B7L] FW: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
[B7L] Re: Vila
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:48:31 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant (not)
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Christine said: >When 12 year old me got hooked on 4th season B7 I
>immediately adored Avon and Soolin - Soolin because she had long >hair
and shot people
The long hair bit I can understand (when I was younger, I had bad hair
*years*).
>and Avon, well, I've never needed a reason - it comes naturally, like
>breathing :)
<smile> Any appeal Avon had for the twelve year old me lay dormant for
some time. Certainly, by the time I reached university and the videos
had been released, it had woken up.
By the way, can I stand behind you when Carol comes calling with that
machine? <grin> You tempted fate with the subject line - the Godmother
will be watching because the magic word has been uttered!
Regards
Joanne
Even the best quality leather has flaws.
--P K Shaw
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:07:57 PST
From: "Edith Spencer" <sueno45@hotmail.com>
To: jason@jwake.freeserve.co.uk
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Subject: Re: [B7L] Net address to pictures of the good ship
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Hello to All, and to Jason!
Wow- what a website. Very nice pictures indeed. I took a gander
at the cool website,
http://mateengreenway.simplenet.com/
That Jason linked to us. Say there Judith, I do think it would a
cool link to your exhaustive website. Thanks again to Jason for the
opportunity to look at some cool artwork.
Edith
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:09:32 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Matters Tarrant
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In response to my continuation of Juliet-Dayna, Penny wrote:
> >Oh churl! I guess that means I have to find a new boyfriend."
>
> Such sentiment...*sniff*...I'm all misty-eyed.
Yes, it's very sentimental and tragic. <sob> I can't imagine why the Bard
didn't go for that development.
Joanne reacts to my planned mindwipe with:
In a message dated 1/4/99 5:11:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
j_macqueen@hotmail.com writes:
> Machine? What machine? <mental block clearing> Oh, that machine.
> <sorrowful> Carol, that's brainwashing. Or do you really think that's
> what it takes?
Sadly...yes. No wonder Juliet-Dayna wasn't too upset when Romeo-Tarrant bit
the big one. :)
Carol Mc
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:41:55 -0000
From: "Paul Whalley" <PAWhalley@serpiente.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "Blakes7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Vila
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Last weekend I watched "The City At The Edge Of The World" which I really
enjoyed. What I think I liked so much about this particular episode is that
Vila is the central character and comes out with some exceptional one
liners.
Throughout the episode many references were made to Vila's talents as an
excellent thief and how valuable he is to the rest of the crew. It's about
time he got some recognition from Avon and Tarrant. Can anyone recommend any
other outstanding Vila episodes?
Regards,
Paul
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:26:22 -0000
From: "Paul Whalley" <PAWhalley@serpiente.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "Blakes7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] The Liberator
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Can anyone give me any background on the Liberator. I have heard it referred
to as the most powerful ship in the Galaxy. Is this true?
- Who designed and built it?
- Who did it belong to before Blake and the crew occupied it?
- Has it ever tried to be reclaimed by it's previous owners?
- Are there any Liberator sister ships?
Cheers,
Paul
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Date: 06 Jan 1999 00:29:31 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: "Blakes7 Mailing List" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] The Liberator
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"Paul Whalley" <PAWhalley@serpiente.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
> - Who designed and built it?
> - Who did it belong to before Blake and the crew occupied it?
> - Has it ever tried to be reclaimed by it's previous owners?
> - Are there any Liberator sister ships?
You seriously want to watch the episode "Redemption" (or, failing
that, to read the transcript of it).
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
"I like darkness, because it shows us light" -- Victoria McManus
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:05:14 EST
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila
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In a message dated 99-01-05 17:52:06 EST, Paul wrote:
<< Throughout the episode many references were made to Vila's talents as an
excellent thief and how valuable he is to the rest of the crew. It's about
time he got some recognition from Avon and Tarrant. Can anyone recommend any
other outstanding Vila episodes?
>>
Actually, later in the series, I think he did get plenty of recognition from
Tarrant. Tarrant had not been with the crew long at this point, and I think
he may have felt Vila wasn't pulling his weight in the crew. Vila did seem to
have an allergy to work of any kind and the Liberator was in a difficult
situation without a working weapons system. I think Tarrant was frustrated
that no one else was trying to do anything about it or even seemed to be
concerned.
As for good Vila episodes, he has some good moments in "Seek-Locate-Destroy"
and "Terminal." I also recommend "Gambit" and "Orbit." We can see some of
his darker side in "Spacefall," "Children of Auron," and "Gold." We can see
some of his weaknesses in "Hostage" and "Shadow." I think of all the
characters, he and Avon got the most development on screen.
Tiger M
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:56:53 +1030
From: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>
To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: FW: [B7L] Kairopan harvest
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> I don't really know much about Ben Steed, but he comes across as a closet
> fantasy-monger who thinks SF falls under the same umbrella. And why does he
> always have to peddle his misogyny in every episode he writes? He's worse
> than Robert Holmes and his homophobia.
>
> Neil (aka Rik)
>
Homophobia? You're going to have to help me with this!
What elements of Homophobia can be detected in Robert Holme's four B7 scripts?
(Killer, Gambit, Traitor and Orbit)
Martin
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:57:14 +1030
From: "Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001" <DUNML001@students.unisa.edu.au>
To: "'Lysator'" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: FW: [B7L] Free time again
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> Floyd are as nothing without Syd.
>
>
> Una
Vote two for Syd
Martin
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:41:43 +1100
From: "Afenech" <Fenech@onaustralia.com.au>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Fw: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
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Just for you Una -smile-
Forwarding:
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> From: U.M. Mccormack <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
> To: space-city@world.std.com
> Subject: SC: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
> Date: Thursday, 7 January 1999 0:15
>
>
> Wendy said:
>
> >i was surprised not to have seen any posts on the interviews that
> >were on the BBC Choice on New Years Day.
>
>
> And Steve responded:
>
> >Just goes to show how few people have digital so far. I'm on it and I
> >haven't seen it yet and apart from a cryptic message from Una I have no
> >idea how it turned out.
>
> Yeah, sorry for that, chaps. I made some notes on it last night, and
just
> wanted to check that people would be happy for me to do a website thing
> like Judith did for the 'Lost in Space' broadcast. People who appeared
> were Judith, Steve, Fifi, Jenni, a trio of troopers - and two people
that
> I have never seen in my life before! You know who you are - one of you
is
> a chap in a long dark coat with a big B7 badge on, and a blonde woman.
> I've probably even exchanged pleasantries with you on e-mail, but I just
> don't know what you look like! Oh, and Patrick Moore appeared, but I
don't
> think he's reading this for me to ask permission.
>
> The whole thing was quite brief - only about a minute or so long. The
> Tarrant Nostra will be thrilled to hear that the conversation was almost
> entirely about the Sabre-Toothed One, courtesy of Fifi and Jenni, who
> spoke lovingly of a recent production SP was in and his lack of clothing
> therein! Judith spoke in warm terms about the Internet and e-mail and
the
> joys of chatting to people from far-flung places. Steve filled in a
little
> avout the background of the show, and the good guys vs. the bad guys.
This
> was all interspersed with shots of the troopers running round and
> ultimately bundling off Jenni - presumably for not mentioning Paul
> Darrow?!? Then 'The Web' was shown, which Patrick Moore had described as
> 'a classic episode of Blake's7, or so I'm told' (which just about sums
it
> up - deny all knowledge, Patrick. It's the best way). After 'The web',
> Patrick was blasted into oblivion by a trooper.
>
> So it was short, but fun. And if people agree, I can have them up on the
> Internet for everyone's entertainment forthwith!
>
> Una
>
> PS I am e-mailing from home and don't have the Lysator address. Could
> someone forward this for me? Thanks.
>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:41:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: Iain Coleman <ijc@bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Free time again
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On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Dunne, Martin Lydon - DUNML001 wrote:
> > Floyd are as nothing without Syd.
> >
> >
> > Una
> Vote two for Syd
The problem is that there have been many, quite different bands
confusingly sharing the name "Pink Floyd". The following list may not be
complete:
Pink Floyd (1): Brilliantly bizarre guitarist/songwriter Syd Barrett and
his backing musicians.
Pink Floyd (2): Sometimes interesting psychedelic rock band of the late
60s / early 70s.
Pink Floyd (3): Massively popular global conceptual rock band headed by
songwriter Roger Waters.
Pink Floyd (4): Session band best known for their work on the Roger Waters
solo album "The Final Cut".
Pink Floyd (5): Tribute band to Pink Floyd (3).
I hope this helps clear up any confusion.
Iain
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:44:09 +-100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: "'Blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] FW: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
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Hope this doesn't appear here a million times, but Una did make a general request to forward this.
Jacqueline
-----Original Message-----
From: U.M. Mccormack [SMTP:umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 2:16 PM
To: space-city@world.std.com
Subject: SC: Re: Over The Moon BBC Choice
Wendy said:
>i was surprised not to have seen any posts on the interviews that
>were on the BBC Choice on New Years Day.
And Steve responded:
>Just goes to show how few people have digital so far. I'm on it and I
>haven't seen it yet and apart from a cryptic message from Una I have no
>idea how it turned out.
Yeah, sorry for that, chaps. I made some notes on it last night, and just
wanted to check that people would be happy for me to do a website thing
like Judith did for the 'Lost in Space' broadcast. People who appeared
were Judith, Steve, Fifi, Jenni, a trio of troopers - and two people that
I have never seen in my life before! You know who you are - one of you is
a chap in a long dark coat with a big B7 badge on, and a blonde woman.
I've probably even exchanged pleasantries with you on e-mail, but I just
don't know what you look like! Oh, and Patrick Moore appeared, but I don't
think he's reading this for me to ask permission.
The whole thing was quite brief - only about a minute or so long. The
Tarrant Nostra will be thrilled to hear that the conversation was almost
entirely about the Sabre-Toothed One, courtesy of Fifi and Jenni, who
spoke lovingly of a recent production SP was in and his lack of clothing
therein! Judith spoke in warm terms about the Internet and e-mail and the
joys of chatting to people from far-flung places. Steve filled in a little
avout the background of the show, and the good guys vs. the bad guys. This
was all interspersed with shots of the troopers running round and
ultimately bundling off Jenni - presumably for not mentioning Paul
Darrow?!? Then 'The Web' was shown, which Patrick Moore had described as
'a classic episode of Blake's7, or so I'm told' (which just about sums it
up - deny all knowledge, Patrick. It's the best way). After 'The web',
Patrick was blasted into oblivion by a trooper.
So it was short, but fun. And if people agree, I can have them up on the
Internet for everyone's entertainment forthwith!
Una
PS I am e-mailing from home and don't have the Lysator address. Could
someone forward this for me? Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:50:40 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Vila
Message-ID: <19990106215040.11399.qmail@hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Another try at sending this. Hotmail decided to be unco-operative
yesterday afternoon, and is continuing this morning. Hopefully, this
will get through.
Tiger M wrote: >Vila did seem to have an allergy to work
It's bit, I suppose like his claim to have bought into his rung on the
social ladder - work, like brains, gets you noticed. Not good for a
thief, even one who likes a pat on the head (or, better still, access to
drinkies) whenever he's done something right.
>I think Tarrant was frustrated that no one else was trying to do
>anything about it or even seemed to be concerned.
Tarrant becomes tetchy rather easily in the third series (down, Carol,
down <grin>). But, because "City" is on my list of episodes still to be
seen, I have no idea if there are any indications that the rest of the
crew have other priorities. They could still outrun the opposition, so
long as they had sufficient notice. It might have been the next thing on
Avon's list (or Dayna's, if it comes to that), but Tarrant's military
training may have made him feel naked, so to speak, without some sort of
fully functioning weaponry on call.
>I also recommend "Gambit" and "Orbit".
Same here, although the bit in the latter where Elmer Awon goes huntin'
for Wilas makes me want to kick our old friend Kerr from here to the
Arctic Circle, and that's a long way.
Regards
Joanne
Henry Crun: Ah, it's shiny, short and dreadful Neddy, back from the
China Wars. Come in, come in. Put your feet up. [Sound FX of loud crash]
You shouldn't have done it from the standing position.
--"The Giant Bombardon", The Goon Show.
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