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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 42
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Re: Con envy....
[B7L] Re: Tanith Lee
[B7L] Re: In defence of Sarcophagus
Re: [B7L] In defence of Sarcophagus
Re: [B7L] Re: In defence of Sarcophagus
Re: [B7L] In defence of Sarcophagus
Re: [B7L] Barman
[B7L] Re: The Silver Sky and Spies
[B7L] Cheerio, chaps
[B7L] Re: In defence of Sarcophagus
Re: [B7L] Barman
[B7L] B7 RPG and sundry
Re: [B7L] Re: Con envy....
[B7L] Locations where 'Guards, Guards' is being performed
OT:Web Security (was RE: [B7L] Linda Knights' web page)
Re: [B7L] Locations where 'Guards, Guards' is being performed
Re: [B7L] In defence of Sarcophagus
[B7L] Julia Ecklar
Re:[B7L]Locations where 'Guards !Guards!' is being performed
Re: [B7L] In defence of Sarcophagus
Re: [B7L] Locations where 'Guards, Guards' is being performed
[B7L] F and SF (Re: Sarcophagus)
Re: [B7L] F and SF (Re: Sarcophagus)
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Date: 24 Jan 1999 20:42:22 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Con envy....
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"Edith Spencer" <sueno45@hotmail.com> writes:
> PS to Calle: So after seeing all the little references to Kate Bush,
> I sastified my curiousity and listened to some of stuff at the local
> music shop. Very interesting stuff;
It is, isn't it? Try "The Dreaming", if you didn't.
> for a while I thought she was the grandma of Tori Amos.
KaTe's only 40, and she doesn't have any kids, so she's unlikely to be
anybody's grandma :-)
"Tori is just a cheap plastic imitation of Kate!" is one of the most
long-running flamewars in both the KaTe-related and the Tori-related
newsgroups.
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:50:43 -0000
From: "Susan Bennett" <susanb@iol.ie>
To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: Tanith Lee
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Carolyn, thanks for the booksellers URL. I've been trying to get a copy of
The Silver Metal Lover for ages and it was great to find one.
Susan Bennett
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"One's real life is often
the life that one does not lead."
Oscar Wilde
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:12:11 -0000
From: "Susan Bennett" <susanb@iol.ie>
To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: In defence of Sarcophagus
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Tiger M wrote:
>>>Soolin did mention the crew possibly being under a curse in "Sand."
Perhaps that shot is the fate of all the crew being sealed, ending at Gauda
Prime.<<<
Hmm... I originally discounted that because the liberator was destroyed, but
it makes sense that the curse would have been on the crew as well, not just
the ship. I like it.
Soolin became part of the gestalt and thus came to share their doom in the
basement room in "Rescue." It may be fanciful, but a little fancy now and
then is good for the soul.<<<
Agreed :-)
Susan Bennett
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"One's real life is often
the life that one does not lead."
Oscar Wilde
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:54:54 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Candace wrote about THE SILVER SKY:
> Oh, yes! yes! This is lovely!!! I just recently listened to it. At first
I
> wasn't interested because I didn't think just 'listening' to a play would
be
> very entertaining. But after months of badgering from my friends, I
FINALLY
> broke down and listened to it. It's SUPERB!!! A MUST for Avon fans!!!!
I hope you get to try my favorite PD radio play, which is the dramatization of
Jeffrey Archer's NOT A PENNY MORE, NOT A PENNY LESS. The twists and turns of
plot never fail to entertain me, and I've listened to it several times. I was
most happy to find a copy of the book while in England this summer.
Regarding Tanith Lee, what I like of hers I really like, but she's as apt to
leave me cold as hot. I do like her B7 episodes. She's probably my favorite
B7 scripter after Chris Boucher. I'm of the impression (and I could be wrong)
that writing B7 was more than just a job for both of them. I think they were
genuinely fond of the characters and enjoyed exploring them. Mary Ridge among
the directions gives me the same impression.
My favorite book of Tanith Lee's is THE SILVER METAL LOVER. Julia Ecklar has
a beautiful SML filk, "Silver," on her Divine Intervention tape. I don't know
if that's still available. I bought it at Worldcon in Chicago, which was
around '89 or '90. That same tape has many songs that have inspired B7 music
vids, such as the very wonderful Mary Van Deusen Blake vid to "Lullaby for a
Weary World."
Lorna B. wrote:
> I've often thought the underlying theme of B7 is that of loneliness.
What an insightful perception. It certainly gets to the heart of the matter.
Though I'm not sure they recognized how lonely they were. It's almost as if
they had grown used to that being the norm, all of them.
When reviewing MOLOCH for the Tarrant APA it occurred to me that one of the
reasons Vila latched onto Doran so quickly is because they shared a common
background: criminal from the lower classes. He didn't have that on the
Liberator.
> And I
> agree the Alien used it very well, most especially with Cally. I think
> that, had she "won," the crew would have eventually fallen into their new
> roles fairly easily, just to have a sense of belonging that they didn't
have
> before.
If she had given that to them, yes. I'm not sure she was that benevolent or
that empathic. I had the feeling she just intended to use them until she wore
them out. She seemed to regard humans as a lesser species who were incapable
of understanding the deep emotions she felt. And the way the vision of Dayna
treated Vila suggested that the Alien might enjoy encouraging strife among her
menials, as if she might have a sadistic streak.
Carol Mc
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:11:55 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: In defence of Sarcophagus
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Tigerm wrote:
> Soolin became part of the gestalt and thus came to share their doom in the
> basement room in "Rescue." It may be fanciful, but a little fancy now and
> then is good for the soul.
There's a wonderful B7 story, "The Scars That Won't Heal," by Sandy Hall in
Fifth Season 2. It postulates that Avon, Tarrant, Dayna, and Soolin became
linked during the attempt to form a gestalt. (It didn't affect Vila because
he wasn't down in the room at the time.) Blake describes Orac's findings as
"That room didn't just strengthen an emotional bond, it created an actual
physical link."
For fans of 4th season dynamics (I know there aren't many of us, but we do
exist), I highly recommend all of the Fifth Season zines for both the 4th
season stories and the way the fourth season crew is depicted in PGPs.
Carolyn, thanks for the URL for the out-of-print bookseller. It didn't have
the book I'm looking for, but I shall keep it in mind when I want other hard-
to-find titles.
Carol Mc
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:41:01 +1100
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] In defence of Sarcophagus
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On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 12:16:07PM +0000, Julia Jones wrote:
> In message <19990124084544.40184@welkin.apana.org.au>, Kathryn Andersen
> <kat@welkin.apana.org.au> writes
> >On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 06:53:29PM +0000, Julia Jones wrote:
> >> Another nice piece of work is "The Silver Sky", a radio play written
> >> with Paul Darrow in mind for the male lead.
> >
> >Oh yes! That was good. Must listen to it again sometime (I got a
> >tape + script of this in a con auction; I couldn't believe that nobody
> >else was interested!)
> >
> <wince>
> I'd have been interested. I've only heard it as an nth generation tape.
> It falls under the heading of "Of course I'd buy a legitimate copy if
> they were available". Was it ever available as an official tape?
I don't think so. If I recall correctly, one of the conditions of the
sale was that it not be copied. It had been donated as part of the
charity auction for one of the Brisbane cons run by Annie Hamilton &
co, I can't remember if it was Event Horizon or Parliament of Dreams.
But it actually arrived too late to be auctioned at the con. So it,
along with some other late items, were offered by a mail auction after
the con, so I jumped in as soon as I could. So there probably wasn't
as much competition as there might have been if it had arrived in time
for the con; but as it was, if I recall correctly, I was the only one
who put a bid on it. Maybe I was the only one who read the post-con
newsletter who recognised the title or something.
The script that I have looks as if it is a photocopy of a working
script: it has hand-written alterations of the words - additional
lines, and crossings-out of unused lines, and a few notations about
time. But it doesn't have any names on it, so I don't know whose it
might have been. I cannot remember who it was who donated it to the
auction; it might have been Tanith Lee herself. I'm pretty sure it
wasn't Paul Darrow: he would have signed it, in that case.
> I love it as a play - it's a beautiful piece of work. That the BBC then
> used the two actors the writer had had in mind makes it superb. Tanith
> Lee described it in an interview:
Thanks for that interview quote!
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:23:06 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Barman
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>My local pub goes through a regular stream of junior bar staff, most
>only stay a month or so, some up to six months. They are often
>travelling students or Australians on their year abroad. As such I,
>along with others, have great difficulty remembering their names. No
>such problem methinks with the one I was introduced to yestreday. >He
is called Travis. I made some reference to B7 when I was >introduced,
but just got blank looks back. Ah well, he is young. >Maybe I should
educate him about his namesake.
>cheers
>Steve Rogerson
<wincing> If he's Australian, Steve, you may have to listen to a lot of
country and western music. Either that, or the culprit is a soap opera
character, but I think he's a bit too old for that. Not B7 at all.
Unless his Mummy and Daddy have a deep, dark secret they're too scared
to share with young Travis, of course...<grin>
Regards
Joanne
I'm walking backwards for Christmas
Across the Irish Sea.
--Spike Milligan
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:37:18 +0000 (GMT)
From: "U.M. Mccormack" <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: The Silver Sky and Spies
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Andy said:
>..And did anybody notice PD voicing a Russian Spy in 'The Spying Game' C4
>@7.25pm Saturday?
Certainly did - and uncredited as well. It took as a couple of minutes of
Matthew saying 'That's Darrow' and me utterly denying it before I was
convinced!
Una
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:52:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: "U.M. Mccormack" <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Cheerio, chaps
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Just a quick note to say that as I'm off to New Zealand and Oz for a few
weeks, I'll be unsubbing for a little while - but back in time for
Redemption!
Speak to y'all soon,
Una
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:16:24 -0000
From: "Susan Bennett" <susanb@iol.ie>
To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Re: In defence of Sarcophagus
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Carol said:
>>>I hope you get to try my favorite PD radio play, which is the
dramatization of Jeffrey Archer's NOT A PENNY MORE, NOT A PENNY LESS.<<<
I liked that, although I wondered about Paul's American accent. Did it
sound authentic to you?
>>>My favorite book of Tanith Lee's is THE SILVER METAL LOVER. Julia Ecklar
has a beautiful SML filk, "Silver," on her Divine Intervention tape.<<<
It was that song, together with a few recommendations, that inspired me to
look for a copy of the book.
>>> I don't know if that's still available. I bought it at Worldcon in
Chicago, which was around '89 or '90. That same tape has many songs that
have inspired B7 music vids, such as the very wonderful Mary Van Deusen
Blake vid to "Lullaby for a Weary World."<<<
The vids to her songs are some of my favourites. I have old copies of
"Divine Intervention" and "Walkabout", and there are a lot of songs on it
that seem to suit B7. (Sorry Carol, but you said the fatal words "music
video"...<g>) "Overture/Ladyhawke" would make a lovely Vila/Kerril,
"Daddy's Little Girl" seems perfect for a Servalan vid and "The Phoenix" for
Zen. And although it doesn't seem to fit B7 very well, my favourite choice
for a vid would be "The Hand of God". Perhaps because of the cynicism it
would fit Avon and the rebellion?
Susan Bennett
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"One's real life is often
the life that one does not lead."
Oscar Wilde
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:43:23 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Barman
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Penny Dreadful wrote:
re: Travis at Page's Bar
> >Maybe I should educate
> >him about his namesake.
>
> Scream "DEATH TO THE FEDERATION!!!" and stick a pickle fork in his left
> eye.
>
<snort! choke! guffaw!>
This is the only thing that made me laf out loud all day!
I gotta get a life.
Pitiful Pat P
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:43:13 CST
From: still unknown <grimjack@iastate.edu>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] B7 RPG and sundry
Message-Id: <9901250443.AA06933@isuad1.iastate.edu>
Greetings from across the pond in deepest, darkest Iowa.
Just recently rejoined this list and I've been reading with intense
interest the thread involving B7 as a roleplaying game. So a couple of
questions for whoever has any answers:
1. What's your review of the RPG for sale down the street at Horizon?
And the tech manuals?
2. Have any of you adapted characters to R. Talsorian's Interlock system
(Mekton II, Cyberpunk 2020) and would be willing to share them?
(I'm kinda wanting to use Mekton II as my system of choice.)
3. I'd really like to see other system adaptations (GURPS, etc.) if
anyone has them.
Thanks in advance! :)
Respond to the list or in e-mail as warranted.
It's good to be back, even if I seem to be courting bronchitis.
Take care all.
grim
"Remember Baldrick, you're always safe--with me!"
--Kerr Blackadder, "Blackadder's 7"
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:00:02 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Con envy....
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On Sun 24 Jan, Edith Spencer wrote:
>
> To all attending getting Redeemed:
> <whine> I can't go, student loans and master degree studying got
> in the way- despite saving my pennies like a miser, I am still not able
> to do it.
I really feel for you. It's a real pleasure being able to catch up with
frineds, and a real bind when you can't.
> Waaahhhh. I wanna go England again... waaahhh....and see Gareth Thomas in the
> Flesh, drinking beer.....auuugghhh...and see list people in the flesh,
> especially the way out Steve R.</whine>
Well, Gareth is now working, so it's Brian Croucher at the actual convention,
though a small contingent of us are going to Wales the day after the con to see
Paul and Gareth's plays. (I've still got a few spaces on this trip if anyone
else wants to spend Monday and Tuesday in Wales)
It's been proposed that Gareth be present in effigy. We couldn't resist the
suggestion, so we're seeing what we can manage...
> Oh Hell's bells, I hope everyone has a great time at Redemption !
We'll do our best <grin>
Judith
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Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:26:02 -0000
From: "Josh Tildesley" <josht@rpf.co.uk>
To: "'Lysator List'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Locations where 'Guards, Guards' is being performed
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Hi,
This is a first posting. I have been lurking for about three months
now. I think that it's about time that I actually posted a message isn't
it?
Anyway, let's get straight to the point.
I recently read that Paul Darrow was playing in a production of Terry
Pratchett's 'Guards, Guards.'
I have limited collateral and have never actually been to Darlington before.
Does anyone know if the play is being performed anywhere slightly more close
to home?
By the way, I live about 10 miles west of Bradford in West Yorkshire close
to the border of Lancashire.
Thanks,
Josh Tildesley.
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:01:20 -0000
From: peter.borg@barclayscapital.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: OT:Web Security (was RE: [B7L] Linda Knights' web page)
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Judith Said:
> All data that is stored by page (such as your address) is encrypted.
> Nobody
> will be able to read the details except yourself and the person you're
> ordering
> zines from.
>
Some clarification: the data stored is indeed secure, however the data
transmitted is in no way secure. Potentially your personal details and
credit card details could be intercepted. The risk is not high, however.
Some servers do provide encrypted communication (such as Amazon). If a URL
starts with HTTPS rather than HTTP then your transaction is much more
secure.
Personally, I wouldn't give my card details to a non-secure server.
There is one other issue: if the data stored by the server is encrypted, the
encryption algorithm must also be on the server somewhere. If the server
were compromised, this could be exploited. The only way for completely
secure data to be held on the server is for a public key encryption
mechanism to be used where the private key (i.e. what's used to decrypt the
data) is not held on the computer. However, this makes the data unusable to
the server once it's stored.
If the server can remember your details between visits it can decrypt them.
If the server can decrypt them, so can anyone who gains access to the
server.
Peter.
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:13:08 -0000
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "'Lysator List'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Locations where 'Guards, Guards' is being performed
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It's doing the rounds isn't it? I know it's coming to my town (Coventry) for
a start, so it's bound to be somewhere near you. I'm sure Horizon would have
the details.
Alison
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:27:16 +0100
From: Murray Smith <mjsmith@tcd.ie>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] In defence of Sarcophagus
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I've been very interested in the many opinions about 'Sarcophagus',
and was intrigued to read that many people found the fantasy elements to be
a turn-off. For my part, I found them quite appropriate to the story of a
being from a society far in advance of any human one. Arthur C. Clarke said
that any sufficiently advanced technology was 'indistinguishable from
magic'; so the showing of it in fantasy type terms was, I thought, very
good. In the 'Star Wars' films, for example, while the plot has a great
deal to do with it, many of the things in it are seen by us in fantast
terms. For example, a lightsaber is a variety of magic sword, while the
Emperor, due to his appearance and powers, is an evil wizard.
Murray
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:49:10 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Julia Ecklar
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On Mon 25 Jan, Susan Bennett wrote:
> >>>My favorite book of Tanith Lee's is THE SILVER METAL LOVER. Julia Ecklar
> has a beautiful SML filk, "Silver," on her Divine Intervention tape.<<<
>
> It was that song, together with a few recommendations, that inspired me to
> look for a copy of the book.
>
> >>> I don't know if that's still available. I bought it at Worldcon in
> Chicago, which was around '89 or '90. That same tape has many songs that
> have inspired B7 music vids, such as the very wonderful Mary Van Deusen
> Blake vid to "Lullaby for a Weary World."<<<
Thats one of my all time favourite song vids.
I bought a copy of Divine Intervention this year at Ecclecticon, so it's still
available. I only wish there were sleeve notes to identify the origins of the
songs. I could work out some, like 'Terminus Est' (from 'The Shadow of the
Torturer), but was puzzled by others even though I enjoyed the songs.
Judith
--
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:15:05 -0000
From: "Julie Horner" <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re:[B7L]Locations where 'Guards !Guards!' is being performed
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Josh said:
>I recently read that Paul Darrow was playing in a production of Terry
>Pratchett's 'Guards, Guards.'
>I have limited collateral and have never actually been to Darlington
before.
>Does anyone know if the play is being performed anywhere slightly more
close
>to home?
>By the way, I live about 10 miles west of Bradford in West Yorkshire close
>to the border of Lancashire.
The latest confirmed dates, taken from the Avon Club page
are as follows:
21ST JAN 1999 - COLCHESTER, MERCURY THEATRE (01206 573948)
(28th is not a good day to go!)
1ST FEB 1999 - BRIGHTON, THEATRE ROYAL (01273 328488)
8TH FEB 1999 - WIMBLEDON THEATRE (0181 540 0362)
15TH FEB 1999 - BELGRADE THEATRE, COVENTRY (01203 553055)
22ND FEB 1999 - DARLINGTON, THE CIVIC (01325 486555)
2ND MAR 1999 - SWANSEA, THE GRAND (01792 475715)
I think Darlington is your closest. It's only about an hour or so up the
A1 isn't it?
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:46:31 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] In defence of Sarcophagus
Message-ID: <BQYkSGA3S5q2Ewh+@jajones.demon.co.uk>
In message <8e880ea2.36ab889e@aol.com>, Mac4781@aol.com writes
>Regarding Tanith Lee, what I like of hers I really like, but she's as apt to
>leave me cold as hot. I do like her B7 episodes. She's probably my favorite
>B7 scripter after Chris Boucher. I'm of the impression (and I could be wrong)
>that writing B7 was more than just a job for both of them. I think they were
>genuinely fond of the characters and enjoyed exploring them. Mary Ridge among
>the directions gives me the same impression.
The interview I quoted earlier certainly gives that impression:
Since she'd mentioned Blake's 7 I asked how she had started
writing for the programme. 'They asked me if I would be
interested in doing it. Id watched almost all the series and was
au fait with and interested in the characters. It was rather
nice to be asked to develop a theme that every time i watched,
other scripts were already developing in my head. i had a lot of
fun doing it, especially the first one.'
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:32:48 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Locations where 'Guards, Guards' is being performed
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0125123248-6d1Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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On Mon 25 Jan, Josh Tildesley wrote:
> I recently read that Paul Darrow was playing in a production of Terry
> Pratchett's 'Guards, Guards.'
>
> I have limited collateral and have never actually been to Darlington before.
> Does anyone know if the play is being performed anywhere slightly more close
> to home?
Colchester, Brighton, Wimbledon, Darlington, Swansea. There may be extra places
added later, but those are the ones currently known.
You can get the dates and theatres from my web page or from Horizon's.
I really really wish it would come near Dorset. The last time Paul was down
this way was when I saw him in Macbeth.
Those who've seen Guards Guards speak very highly of it. I'm going to see it in
Swansea and I'm looking forward to it (and to seeing Gareth Thomas in 'Hosts of
Rebecca')
Judith
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:49:10 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] F and SF (Re: Sarcophagus)
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Murray:
>was intrigued to read that many people found the fantasy elements to be
>a turn-off. For my part, I found them quite appropriate to the story of
a
>being from a society far in advance of any human one. Arthur C. Clarke
said
>that any sufficiently advanced technology was 'indistinguishable from
>magic'; so the showing of it in fantasy type terms was, I thought, very
>good. In the 'Star Wars' films, for example, while the plot has a great
>deal to do with it, many of the things in it are seen by us in fantast
>terms. For example, a lightsaber is a variety of magic sword...
Star Wars was absolutely stereotypical Fantasy with a technofetish
veneer, and it was this (very well executed) juxtaposition which earned
it its place in history. Cf. 'Dune' (the book! Not the movie!) which
appears to be Fantasy but is in fact science fiction of the most
obsessive-compulsive variety -- that is, every apparently magical aspect
of Herbert's future universe is explicated in scientific terms. No
matter how unfeasible they are, the point is that the effort was made to
show how that future could be extrapolated from Now.
The main difference between Fantasy and SF is presentation, particularly
on TV where a *lot* of shorthand/symbolism has to be used. To my mind a
vehicle that moves faster than the speed of light is far less feasible
than a flying carpet is. But B7 starts out claiming to be science
fiction, and thereafter we expect all of its plot contrivances, however
fantastic, to broadly adhere to the conventions of SF. For instance, the
alien-ghosts in 'Duel' are at least on a par with the ghost-alien in
'Sarcophagus' in terms of their powers, but they give us a typical Star
Trek spiel to explain themselves, so we permit them to be SF.
--Penny "If It Walks Like a Cyberduck And Quacks Like A Cyberduck..."
Dreadful
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:39:14 +1100
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] F and SF (Re: Sarcophagus)
Message-ID: <19990126103914.37197@welkin.apana.org.au>
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On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 10:49:10AM -0800, Penny Dreadful wrote:
[snip]
> The main difference between Fantasy and SF is presentation, particularly
> on TV where a *lot* of shorthand/symbolism has to be used. To my mind a
> vehicle that moves faster than the speed of light is far less feasible
> than a flying carpet is. But B7 starts out claiming to be science
> fiction, and thereafter we expect all of its plot contrivances, however
> fantastic, to broadly adhere to the conventions of SF. For instance, the
> alien-ghosts in 'Duel' are at least on a par with the ghost-alien in
> 'Sarcophagus' in terms of their powers, but they give us a typical Star
> Trek spiel to explain themselves, so we permit them to be SF.
To be fair, Sarcophagus used technological spiel as well as symbolism;
I think if the bits with the symbolic figures had been left out, the
objectors would have less to object to -- but the story wouldn't have
been half so good, either. As you point out, the Alien in Sarcophagus
is very similar in some ways to the aliens in Duel, so what is it that
people are objecting to? Probably, to the tone of the episode, and to
the symbolism/prophecy bits ... and the fact that they are given no
explanation of them whatsoever, neither a fantasy one nor an SF one.
I mean, if the scenes with the figures were shown to be a computer
projection, would that have made it acceptable to the people who don't
like the Fantasy-like nature of Sarcophagus?
I had a few thoughts on the origins and backstory of the Alien, which
I put in my story, "The Butterfly Effect II: Out of the Dark"... but
that was an attempt at an internal explanation, not thinking about
whether it was Fantasy and therefore Didn't Belong.
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