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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 49
Today's Topics:
[B7L] Fan Fiction
Re: [B7L] Common People
[B7L] B7L Re common People
Re: [B7L] Re:Just to say Hi!!
Re: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: Fwd: RE: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
RE: [B7L] More B7 stats
[B7L] Round robin idea...
Re: [B7L] Round robin idea...
[B7L] Caption contest
RE: [B7L] Round robin idea...
Re: [B7L] Flat robin idea...
Re: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife
Re: [B7L] Round robin idea...
Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
Re: [B7L] Round robin idea...
[B7L] Sorry to interrupt -smile-
[B7L] Common People and other musical things.
Re: [B7L] Glynis Barber sighting...
Re: [B7L] Common People
Re: [B7L] Round robin idea...
Re: [B7L] Common People and other musical things.
[B7L] Common People and flat robins
Re: [B7L] Round robin begins...
Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
Re: [B7L] Common People
Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
[B7L] B7L Re common People
RE: [B7L] B7L Re common People
Re: [B7L] Re: Fan fiction
Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
Re: [B7L] B7 RPG and sundry
Re [B7L] Cock-up
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Date: 1 Feb 1999 07:17:08 -0800
From: "Ma.James" <ma@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Fan Fiction
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>Sarah Thompson wrote:
>One gen series that hasn't yet been mentioned and that is one of my
>personalfavorites is Judith Seaman's fifth/sixth season stories,
>=Program= and =Ghost=.
Oh, I couldn't agree more. This is a wonderful series. One of my favorites.
Not only because it is a GREAT Avon epic, but because the author builds an
entire universe around the characters AND (most impressive of all) EVERY
character in the story has a distict and interesting personality. You see them
all as individuals (even the most minor character).
Characterization and sci fi are beautifully blended in these stores. *My*
biggest fandom disappointment is that they will never be completed.
Candace
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:11:26 -0000
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People
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Ta for the nice comments. Fifi, I discovered on Saturday we have the same
taste in music, so I had a head start. Hope the barman played 'Tequila'
before you went home.
BTW since the discussion a while ago I have come to the conclusion that the
nearest musical equivalent to Vila is Robbie Williams.
Alison
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:24:31 -0000
From: "Debra Collard" <Debra@whisson1.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "B7L" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] B7L Re common People
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Alison,
I love the song and it fits so well. Whenever I try to 'fit' new words to a
tune I always end up having to invent words just to make it scan.
I Like Pulp but purely because they are one of the only bands to have
written a song with 'Debra' in it (although it is probably meant to be
Deborah), not the most musical of names alas!
Debra
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:28:44 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Hi Hellen,
Welcome to the list.
> Actually, as my native language isn't English, but Bulgarian
wow. This is off-topic, but here in the US, people from "behind the iron
curtain" are as rare and exotic as people from another planet. On US tv
we don't get much news on the Eastern Bloc (except for war coverage). I
would be fascinated to hear about your daily life and how things have
changed since the wall went down.
Do you all learn to speak English in school?
How common are computers with an internet connection?
How much media do you get from the English speaking countries: England,
Australia, United States?
Is the environmental pollution there as bad as "they" say?
Yeah, I'm nosy. So sic Travis (I) on me.
oh puleeeeze (he's a fave of mine, too!)
Curious Pat P
PS. There is a B7 Spin List, an adjunct to the Lysator list, which is
for threads that get off topic - not related to Blakes 7 the series.
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:18:28 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife
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Tramila wrote:
> So Pat...<taps foot>.... when are you going to write Chess?
ssssshhhhhhhhhhh!
(uh oh - is that *Servalan* impatiently tapping her foot???)
> <running from the great Xena warrior>
ooops - wrong list
> Oh and giggling like crazy.
can't run if you're lafing *too* hard.
got cha now--
BAM! POW! HACK! CHOP!
and now for some (minimal) B7 relevance to this post:
The thing I love best about Blakes 7 (besides The Snarly One) are all
those buff barbarians running about: The King of the Goths, The Hommick
Gun-Sar, Conan the Sarran, and even Buff Blake boldly wielding his
Sleeves of Steel (Redemption)
hehehehehe
The Horned Barbarian
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:56:20 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Helen Krummenacker wrote:
> > Agreed. Giving Gan an intelligence rating of 10 = average is a good
> > example, reminiscent of "dumbing down" the SAT scores.
> Disagree,. Strongly disagree! You may not realize how much your own high
> intelligence leads you to associate with people of at least slightly
> above average intellect.
You are quite right; I stand corrected.
But Gan's slow and simple utterances do seem simple-minded when compared
with such list gems as Neil Faulkner's:
<open quotes>
Well I meant at a distance, didn't I? Honestly, do you need to be told
everything? No wonder the world's going down the proverbial tubes with
blinkered literal-mindedness seizing control of the global pysche.
Stand up
for nuance, that's what I say! Gird yourself in the dazzling adamantite
armour of allegory, take up the subtle steely sword of metaphor, and
hack
thy bloody swathe through the tangled forest of pusillanimous pedantry.
We
shall sew up the sky with our gleaming needles and yes, okay, maybe the
toaster analogy _is_ slightly better.
Now if you'll excuse me, I wish to vent my frustration on an innocent
small
furry animal.
<close quotes>
hahahahahaha :^D
Speaking of synchronicity: (oh, were we?) since I am in school this
semester and not working, I have been "slumming" on the occasional temp
job. Spent 2 days last week taking inventory in a warehouse (2 days was
1 day too many!). During the 1+ (!) hour orientation, some people had to
keep asking questions on what seemed to me some really obvious
instructions. My friend and I kept giving one another these "looks!"
':-0 with each new thick-headed question posed. I felt like I was on a
field trip to the Land of Low IQ.
So yes, you are correct in stating that people tend to circulate within
their own socio-economic class. Not to sound snobbish, but this list is
probably comprised of people with above average intelligence, being
composed of computer literate people, most, probably, holding college
degrees and white collar career positions - perhaps some are in the
professions (anyone here in law, medicine, architecture? Even some
technology fields cross over into the "professional" class these days:
those that require one to hold certain degrees and pass certain tests to
attain the certifications required to "practice" the profession.
> Gan is quite competent. He mans one of the
> control areas of the Liberator; we see Avon showing him some
> electronics-- a bit of tutoring Avon doesn't seem inclined to give any
> of the others,
erm-- perhaps the others didn't *need* any tutoring?
> as far as we know. Gan Is clear in his speech, not
> meandering-- he doesn't use fancy words, but his ability to keep his
> words on topic, and keep focussed and get to the point,
the ability to walk and talk at the same time doesn't necessarily
mean...
> shows better intelligence than many people we encounter daily.
... then again --
> On what basis do you decide that he is less than average?
Yes, I see the curve I was grading him on was the company he keeps: that
snooty bunch of Alphas on the Liberator.
> Avon will be, as he ought, revealled as the final one, alone in his
> glory. :^D
hehehehehe
> I've seen Michael Keating in person. He's good at making himself look
> small on screen, but he's nearly 6 feet tall,
wow. I'd never have guessed. He looks 5'7" on screen.
> > Charisma? Give Avon a 2. bwahahahahaha!
> Tell that to Servalan,
Servie would jump *anything* with whiskers
> Dayna,
teen age hormones
>or Meeghat.
Yeah, but Meeghat hadn't seen a man for 20 years!
Don't misunderstand me: I adore The Snarly One.
But charisma? no way!
A question about charisma: only once in my 46 years have I met a
charismatic person. A woman who owned a PR agency. However, I think she
was manic depressive as well. For when she was manic, I adored her. When
she was depressive, she was the wicked witch of the west. She had a 500%
turnover rate at her agency, cuz she constantly fired people for
nothing; sometimes after only 2 days on the job. After only 3 months, I
was second in seniority at this (big) place. (How did she manage such a
big company? She was gorgeous and married rich, important men, then
handled PR for their clients.) A beautiful, bizarre woman, but - Ah, to
bask in the glow of that charisma! Come to think of it, she was a bit
like Servalan.
Getting to my question: does a charismatic person "glow" on everyone? Or
do different people find different people charismatic? Obviously some,
like Jim Jones down in Ghanna (?) attracted lots of people, like moths
to a flame. Ronald Regan was considered charismatic, but he did nothing
for me.
Pat P
Pat P
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:16:30 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF
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Sally Manton wrote:
> Also, if YOU were the psychic menace given a choice of checking into the
> brains of THIS lot, who would you choose? Gan? Vila??? Avon??? (I love
> Vila and Avon dearly, but the idea of sharing their thought processes
> for six seconds....shudder).
<chortle>
This reminds me of the joke: 4 surgeons at lunch were discussing
patients. The first says, I like to operate on librarians - they're so
easy - you open them up and everything inside is in alphabetical order.
The second says, I like to operate on accountants - they're so easy -
you open them up and everything inside is neatly numbered. The third
says, I like top operate on electricians - they're so easy - you open
them up and everything inside is color coded. The fourth says, I like to
operate on attorneys - they're easiest of all - they're witless,
gutless, spineless, and the head and the ass are interchangeable.
What would you find if you opened up the Blakes7 crew? I postulate:
Vila - pink cotton candy
Cally - a yawning emptiness
Avon - silicon circuit boards
Jenna - spray starch - or is that stuff hair spray?
Blake - good intentions
Dayna - bad intentions
Tarrant - grape bubble gum
Soolin - crushed diamonds
Travis - black goo squirming with hard shelled beetles
Servalan - sharp-edged sequins
Pat P
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:41:10 +0100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: RE: [B7L] More B7 stats
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Neil said:
>thy bloody swathe through the tangled forest of pusillanimous
>pedantry. We shall sew up the sky with our gleaming needles and yes, >okay,
maybe the toaster analogy _is_ slightly better.
<mumbling softly to myself> He agrees with me. That makes it all
worthwile somehow.
Jacqueline
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:21:36 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Round robin idea...
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Would there be interest (and acceptence) on this list of a round robin
story, crossinf over Blake's 7 and Discworld? I know a lot of people
here are fans of both, and I can so picture-- the disbelief when the
Liberator first picks up signs of the Great Turtle A'Tuin... Vila
encountering Death... the luggage meets ORAC, and two boxes with
attitudes are unleashed on the world.
:^D
Can we do it? Please, please? Who's with me on this?
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:08:37 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Round robin idea...
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Avona said:
>Would there be interest (and acceptence) on this list of a round robin
>story, crossinf over Blake's 7 and Discworld?
What, *that's* the Modestly Pornographic Proposal you had mentioned
previously? I'm afraid I shall have to draw the line at the possibility
of seeing Rincewind naked. Or is this a different discussion entirely?
I think it's an inspiring idea.
--Penny "Shouldn't That Be 'Flat Robin'?" Dreadful
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:38:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Sue Clerc <blake4fr@yahoo.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Caption contest
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The February photo and January captions are up
at http://pages.cthome.net/blakes7/ Step by and
have a look.
Sue
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:18:26 +0100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: RE: [B7L] Round robin idea...
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Helen wrote:
>Would there be interest (and acceptence) on this list of a round
robin
>story, crossinf over Blake's 7 and Discworld?
YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
>I know a lot of people here are fans of both, and I can so
picture-- the >disbelief when the Liberator first picks up signs of the
Great Turtle >A'Tuin... Vila encountering Death... the luggage meets ORAC,
and two >boxes with attitudes are unleashed on the world.
Ooh yes! And could we pair Blake up with Granny Weatherwax, and Avon
with Archchancellor Ridcully? I'd love to see him trying to get information
out of Hex :-).
>Can we do it? Please, please? Who's with me on this?
I'm with you, but only to cheer you on. <sigh> I'm really no good at
writing stories :-(.
Jacqueline
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:32:32 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Penny Dreadful wrote:
>
> Avona said:
>
> >Would there be interest (and acceptence) on this list of a round robin
> >story, crossinf over Blake's 7 and Discworld?
>
> What, *that's* the Modestly Pornographic Proposal you had mentioned
> previously?
NO!!! Totally seperate concepts.
I'm afraid I shall have to draw the line at the possibility
> of seeing Rincewind naked.
Eywwww. A mental image I could well do without.
Or is this a different discussion entirely?
Yes.
>
> I think it's an inspiring idea.
So that's 1 in favor...
>
> --Penny "Shouldn't That Be 'Flat Robin'?" Dreadful
Excellent point. A flat robin it is.
--Avona
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 13:13:17 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife
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>Tramila wrote:
>> So Pat...<taps foot>.... when are you going to write the sequel to
Checkers. You know the one you plan to call Chess?
>ssssshhhhhhhhhhh!
>(uh oh - is that *Servalan* impatiently tapping her foot???)
Yes! So you had best fire up the computer and type your fingers to the
nub. <giggle>
>> <running from the great Xena warrior>
>ooops - wrong list
I know but I just couldn't resist. <g>
>> Oh and giggling like crazy.
>can't run if you're lafing *too* hard.
>got cha now--
>BAM! POW! HACK! CHOP!
ouch!
>and now for some (minimal) B7 relevance to this post:
>The thing I love best about Blakes 7 (besides The Snarly One) are all
>those buff barbarians running about: The King of the Goths, The Hommick
>Gun-Sar, Conan the Sarran, and even Buff Blake boldly wielding his
>Sleeves of Steel (Redemption)
>hehehehehe
I just bet you do.
>The Horned Barbarian
literally! hehehehehehehe
Tramila
The lone ESFJ among the many IN's.
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:49:13 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Round robin idea...
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In message <36B5F0B0.A0B@jps.net>, Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
writes
>Would there be interest (and acceptence) on this list of a round robin
>story, crossinf over Blake's 7 and Discworld? I know a lot of people
>here are fans of both, and I can so picture-- the disbelief when the
>Liberator first picks up signs of the Great Turtle A'Tuin... Vila
>encountering Death... the luggage meets ORAC, and two boxes with
>attitudes are unleashed on the world.
>
Nice idea, and something I've been tempted by myself in the past, but
one word of warning - DON'T do it anywhere near alt.fan.pratchett unless
you enjoy being lightly chargrilled. Discworld fanfic must be kept off
afp for the very good reason that Pterry wishes to avoid being sued by
someone claiming that he nicked an idea from a piece of fanfic. It has
happened to other authors :-(
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 19:44:29 +0000
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats
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In message <36B4A754.57AF@geocities.com>, Pat Patera
<pussnboots@geocities.com> writes
>So yes, you are correct in stating that people tend to circulate within
>their own socio-economic class. Not to sound snobbish, but this list is
>probably comprised of people with above average intelligence, being
>composed of computer literate people, most, probably, holding college
>degrees and white collar career positions
This was something Isaac Asimov commented on, that SF fen almost by
definition are typically of above average intelligence. Unfortunately I
can't remember which essay it's in, other than it including a
description of the way Trek fandom organised.
--
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.
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Date: 01 Feb 1999 22:39:06 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Round robin idea...
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Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl> writes:
> I'm with you, but only to cheer you on. <sigh> I'm really no good at
> writing stories :-(.
Then this'd be a great opportunity to practice, wouldn't it?
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
"Then I dream of a world where idiots are hunted like wild pigs"
-- Stephen Edwards, scary.devil.monastery
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:47:33 +1100
From: "Afenech" <Fenech@onaustralia.com.au>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "spacecity" <space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] Sorry to interrupt -smile-
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Hello everyone -smile-
Sorry to bother the list, but...
my home email connection is nigh onto dead at the moment - its being
diverted thru' another phone line but this only works on the very odd
occasion.
If anyone wants to get in touch over the next few days would you mind
sending the message to work - as the connection there is more reliable.
Thanks -smile-
Pat Fenech
p.fenech@library.usyd.edu.au
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:09:23 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Common People and other musical things.
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>BTW since the discussion a while ago I have come to the >conclusion
that the nearest musical equivalent to Vila is Robbie >Williams.
>Alison
<vague strangled noises> Yesterday, the bit about not seeing Avon
laughing makes me splutter muffin crumbs all over my desk at work. Not
content with that, Alison comes up with this. <smile> I'm just lucky I
wasn't consuming anything today while reading this comment.
Alison, how can you describe Vila like that? Isn't there an alternative?
<smile> I was beginning to think it might be disco, but on second
thoughts I'd assign that to Jenna. Or possibly Tarrant, <evil grin> as
he has the hair for it. Vila's probably one of those recreations of
Victorian-era music hall singalongs, complete with an MC with an
impressive number of adjectives in his vocabulary.
Regards
Joanne
History is not what you thought. <i>It is what you can remember.</i>
WC Sellar & RJ Yeatman, "1066 and all that".
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:20:32 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Glynis Barber sighting...
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>...in something called "The Apocalypse Watch", from 1997. She >looks
*old*.
> Calle Dybedahl
Yes, but was she supposed to look old? It's wonderful what can be done
with makeup, but if her character was meant to be some sort of
glamourpuss, then I see what the problem is.
Furthermore, on Saturday night, anyone watching "Killer Net" on Channel
9 would've had a Stephen Greif sighting. He was playing a lawyer (that's
the second time - I know he looks and sounds smooth and plausible, but
he'll get himself typecast if he's not careful!), and unlike poor Ms
Barber, he has something in his cellar keeping him, well, not exactly
young but certainly well-preserved.
Regards
Joanne
(<grumble> why is this connection so slow today?)
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:41:24 +1000
From: "David Henderson" <David.Henderson@jcu.edu.au>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People
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> This will only make sense to anyone who knows 'Common People' by Pulp,
which
> as I think I said before, is just about my favourite ever song.
Alison, it aint my favourite song but with these too deadly lyrics fitting
so well (and with my fav crew member narrating) it is definately moving up
my playlist....now i wonder how i go about over dubbing :)
David
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:23:08 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Julia Jones wrote:
> Nice idea, and something I've been tempted by myself in the past, but
> one word of warning - DON'T do it anywhere near alt.fan.pratchett unless
> you enjoy being lightly chargrilled. Discworld fanfic must be kept off
> afp for the very good reason that Pterry wishes to avoid being sued by
> someone claiming that he nicked an idea from a piece of fanfic. It has
> happened to other authors :-(
Well, now, I was thinking of it being on the _Lysator_ list. Which is
why I was asking if people here want to participate. But I can
understand copyright concerns and there may be good reasons other than
what you mentioned for us _not_ to...
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:25:25 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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Joanne MacQueen wrote:
>
> >BTW since the discussion a while ago I have come to the >conclusion
> that the nearest musical equivalent to Vila is Robbie >Williams.
> >Alison
>
> Alison, how can you describe Vila like that? Isn't there an alternative?
> <smile> I was beginning to think it might be disco, but on second
> thoughts I'd assign that to Jenna. Or possibly Tarrant, <evil grin> as
> he has the hair for it. Vila's probably one of those recreations of
> Victorian-era music hall singalongs, complete with an MC with an
> impressive number of adjectives in his vocabulary.
I picture him singing "The Hedgehog Song" myself. <g>
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:20:18 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Common People and flat robins
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>I picture him singing "The Hedgehog Song" myself. <g>
Avona, start writing at once! <grin>
Regards
Joanne
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:58:18 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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(The list father seems to approve, so I thought I'd kick it off. Rather
than gather a list of people interested, as that worked badly on another
list as people couldn't do their turns, I suggest people join in when
they feel like it)
"Star One certainly is a long way out," said Jenna softly as she looked
over the navigation readings.
"It's meant to be," said Avon, "Indeed, with the Federation's paranoia,
I'm simply grateful that it's on the end of the _same_ spiral arm as
Earth."
"And so speaks the resident expert on paranoia," quipped Vila, slumped
in his seat until Cally walked by and, without breaking her stride,
pulled his glass out of his hand.
"I've told you Vila, these are medicines. _Not_ for recreation."
Blake came up to the flight deck. "What's going on?"
"Nothing unusual," reported Jenna.
"Why the sudden course correction?" He gave Avon a brief, but
questioning glance, which was met only by raised eybrows. "I was doing
some maintenance checks, near the engines. They powered up much more
than necessary for the usual gravitational compensation. ORAC?"
The box twinkled, but did not deign to respond.
"Orac, confirm there has been a deviation from the planned flight path."
"There has been a deviation from _your_ flight path plan. We are about
to encounter a most fascinating planetary system anomaly."
"That is unacceptable," Blake snapped at the computer. "Return us on
course to Star One."
"Wait a minute, Blake," said Avon. "Don't you want to find out what this
anomaly is? Let your rebellion wait a few minutes, at least. We may
discover something useful."
Blake nodded. "Zen, put long range scanners on screen."
They saw it. They all saw it. Vila would have sworn off adrenaline and
soma, if the other's faces didn't indicate they saw it,too.
"That's impossible," said Blake.
"I agree," said Avon, "but it would be interesting to know what is
causing the appearence of impossibility."
Cally approached the screen. "It is real." She turned to the others.
"It's-- no, they-- are alive!"
Near the edge of the galaxy, where stars are scattered further apart
than Avon's acts of kindness, was a small sun revolving around a disk of
a world, which rested on the back of four huge elephants (one of which
was making way for the sun to pass by its leg) . The elephants, in turn
were on what was the really eye-catching thing. A turtle.
Vila stared at it in wonder. "What kind of creature does its shell
protect it from?"
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:46:06 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
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>I Like Pulp but purely because they are one of the only bands to have
>written a song with 'Debra' in it (although it is probably meant to be
>Deborah), not the most musical of names alas!
'Debora', T.Rex, 1968.
Anyone know of a song with 'Neil' in it? Thought not.
Neil
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:27:35 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People
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Pat wrote:
>Speaking of synchronicity: (oh, were we?) since I am in school this
>semester and not working, I have been "slumming" on the occasional temp
>job. Spent 2 days last week taking inventory in a warehouse (2 days was
>1 day too many!). During the 1+ (!) hour orientation, some people had to
>keep asking questions on what seemed to me some really obvious
>instructions. My friend and I kept giving one another these "looks!"
>':-0 with each new thick-headed question posed. I felt like I was on a
>field trip to the Land of Low IQ.
>
>So yes, you are correct in stating that people tend to circulate within
>their own socio-economic class. Not to sound snobbish, but this list is
>probably comprised of people with above average intelligence, being
>composed of computer literate people, most, probably, holding college
>degrees and white collar career positions
I find this interesting, because although I've got a degree I've
deliberately chosen to 'slum it' down on the factory floor. I went for
years believing all the people who told me factory work was beneath me, but
when I started temping I discovered that... I _like_ factories. I like
being turned into a mindless robot for 12 hours at a stretch. I like the
noise and the sweat and the grime. On a good night I can even handle the
risk of maiming myself on an under-maintained piece of machinery. Most of
all I like the people I work with (the ones I work _for_ are another
matter...). They might not be academically bright, but I wouldn't call any
of them thickies. I can't see any reason to look down my nose at them jsut
because I can stick a few letters after my name. So long as you can prove
you can do the job, they take you as you come. Linking this with Alison's
thread, they're Common People, and that song just happens to be one of my
all-time favourites as well. Though I can't see it knocking Anarchy In The
UK off my personal top spot.
>Getting to my question: does a charismatic person "glow" on everyone? Or
>do different people find different people charismatic? Obviously some,
>like Jim Jones down in Ghanna (?) attracted lots of people, like moths
>to a flame. Ronald Regan was considered charismatic, but he did nothing
>for me.
I think it was Guyana, but I don't think I have a reference source to check.
Charismatic glow - I'm wondering if this might be a combination of the
person her/imself and what they stand for. Hitler definitely had charisma,
but he hardly glowed on everyone. Neither did Rasputin. Maybe charisma is a
double-edged quality, one that tends to polarise reactions? If so, I reckon
it's a good bet that Blake had it.
Am I to take it nobody's familiar with the reference with sewing up the sky
with gleaming needles? Shame on you all:)
Neil
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:40:16 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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Neil Faulkner wrote:
>
> >I Like Pulp but purely because they are one of the only bands to have
> >written a song with 'Debra' in it (although it is probably meant to be
> >Deborah), not the most musical of names alas!
>
> 'Debora', T.Rex, 1968.
>
> Anyone know of a song with 'Neil' in it? Thought not.
And there are _so_ many good rhymes for it-- teal, feel, meal, peel,
squeal-- what _wonderful_ lyrics such a song could have.
--Avona
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:21:36 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
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Neil Faulkner wrote:
>> Anyone know of a song with 'Neil' in it? Thought not.
Only "Tear in your hand" by Tori Amos. Unfortunately, that's a reference
to a specific Neil (as in Gaiman) and, obviously, it isn't in the title.
Sorry, Neil <smile>
It could be worse, though: you could have an absolutely dreadful song
with your name in the title, as anyone named Joanne may find out sooner
or later.
Regards
Joanne
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:20:06 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
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>> Anyone know of a song with 'Neil' in it? Thought not.
>
>And there are _so_ many good rhymes for it-- teal, feel, meal, peel,
>squeal-- what _wonderful_ lyrics such a song could have.
Excerpt from Penny One-Too-Many and the Dreadful Bedfull's 20-minute
epic "Neitzsche is Peachy But Neil Is Easier To Write Suggestive Rhyming
Couplets About":
"Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil,
You discuss 'Blakes 7' with such zeal
But you couldn't care less
if Servalan's dress
is black or white or teal..."
--Penny "Trying To Get Into That Pratchett Headspace" Dreadful
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:07:11 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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Penny Dreadful wrote:
>
> >> Anyone know of a song with 'Neil' in it? Thought not.
> >
> >And there are _so_ many good rhymes for it-- teal, feel, meal, peel,
> >squeal-- what _wonderful_ lyrics such a song could have.
>
> Excerpt from Penny One-Too-Many and the Dreadful Bedfull's 20-minute
> epic "Neitzsche is Peachy But Neil Is Easier To Write Suggestive Rhyming
> Couplets About":
>
> "Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil,
> You discuss 'Blakes 7' with such zeal
> But you couldn't care less
> if Servalan's dress
> is black or white or teal..."
>
> --Penny "Trying To Get Into That Pratchett Headspace" Dreadful
Second verse!
"Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil
You enjoy the sex appeal
Of the girls in boots
(They're all in cahoots)
Wearing their high heels!
now the chorus!
Oh-oh Neal! Why don't you feel
That your name will star
In some song bizarre?
Oh-oh Neal! One day it will peal
All the way from Earth to Teal!
You're so unreal!
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:47:31 -0600
From: "Reuben Herfindahl" <reuben@reuben.net>
To: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>, lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
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>From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
>To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
>Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
>Date: Mon, Feb 1, 1999, 8:40 PM
>
>Neil Faulkner wrote:
>>
>> >I Like Pulp but purely because they are one of the only bands to have
>> >written a song with 'Debra' in it (although it is probably meant to be
>> >Deborah), not the most musical of names alas!
>>
>> 'Debora', T.Rex, 1968.
>>
>> Anyone know of a song with 'Neil' in it? Thought not.
>
Off topic, I know. But since you asked...
The first verse of Sweet Home Alabama by Lynard Skynard has Neil in it
twice. But it is specifically referring to Neil Young writing Southern Man.
Neil's from Canada. He's not a Southern Man.
* Big wheels keep on turning Carry me home to see my kin
* Singing songs about the southland
* I miss my family once again and I think it's a sin
* Well I heard Mr. Young sing about her
* Well I heard Ol' Neil put her down
* Well I hope Neil Young will remember
* A Southern man don't need him around anyhow
Reuben
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:49:14 -0600
From: "Reuben Herfindahl" <reuben@reuben.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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>Neil Faulkner wrote:
>>
>> >I Like Pulp but purely because they are one of the only bands to have
>> >written a song with 'Debra' in it (although it is probably meant to be
>> >Deborah), not the most musical of names alas!
>>
>> 'Debora', T.Rex, 1968.
>>
>> Anyone know of a song with 'Neil' in it? Thought not.
>
Off topic, I know. But since you asked...
The first verse of Sweet Home Alabama by Lynard Skynard has Neil in it
twice. But it is specifically referring to Neil Young writing Southern Man.
Neil's from Canada. He's not a Southern Man.
* Big wheels keep on turning Carry me home to see my kin
* Singing songs about the southland
* I miss my family once again and I think it's a sin
* Well I heard Mr. Young sing about her
* Well I heard Ol' Neil put her down
* Well I hope Neil Young will remember
* A Southern man don't need him around anyhow
Reuben
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:40:50 +0100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] B7L Re common People
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Neil wrote:
>Anyone know of a song with 'Neil' in it? Thought not.
Actually, when the young ones and Cliff Richard did "Living Doll"
together, Neil got called by name in the song.:-)
Jacqueline
Ps.: I didn't understand that reference and now I'm darned curious
(can't say damned on this list, can I?)
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:05:46 EST
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Fan fiction
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There's a bunch of free B7 fan fiction posted on our web page at:
http://members.aol.com/pelkiepet/stories.htm
and fanzines available from Ashton Press are listed in detail at:
http://members.aol.com/methosela/zines.htm
Come and visit!
Leah
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:20:19 -0000
From: "Jenni -Alison" <Jenni-Alison@dial.pipex.com>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7L Re common People
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> > Anyone know of a song with 'Neil' in it? Thought not.
There's an episode of The Young Ones where Rik tries to make up a poem
about Neil, after murdering him. As I recall it's something like "Oh, Neil,
Neil, orange peel"
Does that help?
Jenni
"We sow the seed, nature grows the seed, then we eat the seed"
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Date: 02 Feb 1999 14:37:26 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 RPG and sundry
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"Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net> writes:
> And for my next post, I'll treat you all to my Ars Magica stats for Cally's
> moon disc.
Yes? I'm waiting.
--
Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:34:59 -0000
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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A peek in my 'Sent Items' folder reveals that I have inadvertently
misdirected a couple of postings for this list to individuals. This is
because I am an incompetent buffoon. Sorry Helen, sorry Lisa, I will
endeavour not to do so again. Which is exactly what I said to myself last
time I did it. Which reminds me...
Penny, Penny, Penny, Penny,
How kind of you to use so many
Homophones for my name, Neil.
A shame they're lacking in appeal
(At least, that is the way I feel)
For good ones - there ain't any.
Does anything rhyme with 'Judith'? Getting (slightly) back on-topic, I
recall a limerick I once composed:
There once was an Auron named Cally.
With Gan she was reasonably pally.
Poor Gan she ignored,
And Vila deplored...
...But Avon was right up her alley.
No doubt I'll regret kicking this one off.
Neil
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