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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 51
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] sundry
[B7L] Flat Robin continues...
Re: re [B7L] Die, Versification
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
[B7L] Limericks
Re: [B7L] Limericks
Re: [B7L] Limericks
Re: [B7L] sundry
Re: [B7L] Limericks
[B7L] Limerick
[B7L] another limerick
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
[B7L] Limerick
[B7L] Solidarity
Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
Re: re [B7L] Die, Versification
[B7L] Limericks, Continued
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:19:44 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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(I liked your poem for me, Pat)
Pat Patera wrote:
> There once was an Auron named Cally
> Who oft liked to dilly and dally
> With Blake she was bad,
> With Avon so sad,
> But with Vila she'd shilly and shally
There once was a thief, name of Vila,
By instinct a lover, not killa.
Putting on all his charms,
Took Kerril in his arms,
And said, "Darlin', I'm sure gonna thrill ya."
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:23:48 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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Sorry, folks, I sent this back to Jacwueline by mistake, instead of to
the whole list... fortunately, she noticed.
> The Liberator neared the, for lack of a better word, turtle system.
>
> A'Tuin, the Great Trutle, was a creature of mystery. Cally, although
> sensing it's brain, was certainly not able to communicate with a mind at
> once so utterly vast, yet moving on a different time level, in a
> complacent, reptilian way. A'Tuin's mind usually worked on the tempo of
> Ian's. Or aeons. Something like that.
>
> But and unusual enough sight, could drag the Great Turtle's mind to
> speed with shorter-lived creatures.
>
> There was, it appeared to A'Tuin, something like a very small fish, or
> perhaps a bug, flying by, drawing near to it's head. A'Tuin considered
> it carefully. Up until now, the Turtle's existence had consisted of
> moving through space and hoping that one of those blasted barnacle-like
> elephants would drag it's foot over the itchy spot on A'Tuin's shell.
> Now it occured dimly to A'Tuin, that there could be something else to
> life. There could be a brief snack.
>
> A nuetron blaster shot just beyond A'Tuin's nose. The Great Trutle
> decided it didn't want a stinging snack, and the giant head began to
> withdraw into the shell.
>
>
> "Vila, why did you fire the nuetron blasters?"
>
> "I didn't like the way it was looking at us."
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:28:56 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: re [B7L] Die, Versification
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Neil Faulkner wrote:
> Though Gail - or VulcanXYZ - is right (She is no fool),
> The many words that rhyme with Neil may be described as cool.
> But words like 'fail' or 'pale' or 'snail', they tell a different story.
> A shame that her own appellation snubs her bid for glory.
Bah!
In fandom, a woman named Gail,
Swore that Blake and his crew should not fail.
So she travelled in time,
Made it to Guada Prime,
But arrived to see Feddies prevail.
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:47:24 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma
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Russ Massey wrote:
>
> >Neil Faulkner wrote:
> >> > Maybe charisma is a
> >> > double-edged quality, one that tends to polarise reactions?
> >
> I wasn't really sure myself what charisma was until I went to a talk
> given by Brian Blessed at a book signing a few years ago. The man is
> absolutely magnetic, and if he had asked his audience to march on
> Poland that very evening they would have been with him. It's so hard
> to define the quality, but it boils down to - someone with charisma can
> talk rubbish and you will never interrupt or disagree simply because
> you are so impressed with how he says it.
I would tend to agree with that. I have one friend with a fair degree of
charisma-- and virtually no people skills. He insults everyone, tells
embarrasing stories about himself, and can swing in behavior from
sagelike to childish, and yet, people adore him. The few people who do
say he's an arrogant jerk, still want to talk with him for hours. He's
got that certain something. (He does have plenty of good points, too,
but if he didn't have charisma, his faults would destroy his social
life)
I met Paul Darrow once, and IMHO, he has charisma in spades. It felt
like there was something tangible around him-- now I'm sensitive to
electromagnetic fields, so maybe that was all there is, combined with a
bit of awe, BUT...
I hadn't been in awe of him, seeing him in person on stage. I found him
witty and interesting, yes, but the ageing chain-smoker had very little
to do with the Avon I admired. Then, I happened to meet him face-to-face
in the dealer's room. No one was paying any attention to him, so I had
the chance to ask him what I'd been too polite to do in the open forum,
which was basically, why the astronomy in his book had been so far off.
He explained that the publisher went ahead with the first draft, not
allowing Paul to revise it afte research as he had inteneded, because
"oh, the readers won't know'. A cynical part of me says, "That's his
story, I wonder what the publisher would say." but I wanted, and still
want to believe his version if only because... he has charisma. He told
me the story with a charming, slightly embarrassed smile. And I couldn't
take my eyes off of him,and want to like him and want him to notice and
like me.
BTW, on the subject of polarization, some folks speak of Blake
polariziing people in fandom. Well, out here, it seems like it's Avon
who polarizes them. A lot of people _I_ know who've seen the series say
Blake is anything from a nice guy to a good leader. But Avon is "a
bratty whiner", "a arrogant prick", etc. I've heard from plenty who hate
him, and know even more who love him. Interestingly, I've only heard men
say they dislike him.
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:59:59 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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Subject: [B7L] Limericks
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There once was a rebel named Avon.
His own skin he was good at savin'.
But we just want to see
If he's naturally
Quite as good when he tries misbehavin'.
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:05:29 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
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There is an old woman named Servy
And she's nasty and vicious and nervy
But the boys all forgive
this (assuming they live)
For they find her delicious and curvy.
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:50:08 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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There was a gunfighter named Soolin,
Who poise made the boys start a-droolin'.
But whene'er she was told
She ought not be so cold,
Her answer was, (dryly), "No foolin'."
(would these be great fanzine-fillers or what?)
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:16:11 -0800
From: Tramila <cdmunoz@earthlink.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] sundry
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Helen wrote:
>There once was a thief, name of Vila,
>By instinct a lover, not killa.
>Putting on all his charms,
>Took Kerril in his arms,
>And said, "Darlin', I'm sure gonna thrill ya."
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
<thud>
Tramila
<out like a light>
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:31:20 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
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Second verse, worse than the first:
There was an old woman named Sleer
Who had recently changed her career
Leitz made the connection
And got an -- um -- ambition...
And that was his finish, I fear
Chorus:
Hooray for the Federation!
Birth of a (Terry) Nation!
With leather suits
And shiny boots
And no ethical complication!
--Penny "P For Pendetta" Dreadful
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:12:11 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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The rebel named Olag Gan said,
"I've a limiter stuck in my head.
But it could be quite worse,
How I'd fret and I'd curse,
If they'd limited 'elsewhere' instead."
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:02:51 EST
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
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Here's another one:
There once was a cheeky young kid
Who had even more curls than Blake did.
When he tried to take over
Avon said, "Down, down Rover."
Tarrant pouted and gave up his bid.
****
I hope the Godmother doesn't mind this one. It was just in fun...really,
really!
Gail
"
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 02:10:16 EST
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Avona wrote:
<< I met Paul Darrow once, and IMHO, he has charisma in spades. >>
Isn't this the truth! I was only mildly interested in B7 (hard to believe
this was ever true!) until I saw Paul at a convention. I got in his autograph
line because I vaguely remembered that this English sci fi show was pretty
good and that the actor was interesting. It was mostly curiosity, really.
But when I got up to him and he asked me what my name was, one close up look
and I was lucky I could remember what it was! And his smile! And those eyes!
The man is frankly dangerous and should be registered with the TV police or
something.
Gail
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 04:00:49 PST
From: "Stephen Date" <stephendate@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Limerick
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Avon, always the realist
Chafed, under Blake the idealist
But found one fine day
When Blake went away
That Blake's certainties were sorely missed
Stephen Date
(Robert Montgomery in a previous life I expect)
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:22:19 -0000
From: "Peter Horrocks" <Peter@horrocksp.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Solidarity
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Must apologise for my husband's name at the top of this, having problems
resubscribing with my own. I'm Marion and female.
Neil's mention of solidarity and people looking after each other at work,
put me in a time warp.
I remember solidarity between workers back in the 1970's, and that's the
context in which Blake's7 was written. It was normal to be like that at
work, in Britain, then. The best place I ever worked was the Neuropathology
Laboratory, and we were as motley a crew as you would ever find on the
Liberator, arguing among ourselves, but having fun and always supporting
each other. And we loved Blake's7, discussing it at length the next day.
Time moves on, I move away , have kids, and Margaret Thatcher appears. I
used to joke with my husband that she based her persona on Servalan. I could
picture her studying Servalan's voice, smile, mannerisms, clothes (OK not
long dresses for stuffy government, but power dressing all the same).
Servalan came first, but they both wanted "maximum power". And the world
changed.
Britain in the 1990's. Returning to work after a career break, trying jobs
at various levels (some needing my qualifications, others not). Where's the
solidarity? Why is every ordinary person out for themselves? Is "union" a
historical concept now?
Margaret Thatcher/Servalan has a lot to answer for.
Marion.
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:00:10 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Helen Krummenacker wrote:
> BTW, on the subject of polarization, some folks speak of Blake
> polariziing people in fandom. Well, out here, it seems like it's Avon
> who polarizes them. A lot of people _I_ know who've seen the series say
> Blake is anything from a nice guy to a good leader.
I agree here. Oh, the "manipulation" thread pops up now and again, but
everyone agrees that Blake's heart is in the right place.
> But Avon is "a bratty whiner", "a arrogant prick", etc.
And many list members have remarked that as children, they didn't like
this character.
>I've heard from plenty who hate him, and know even more who love him.
And then those girl children grew up and got hormones.
> Interestingly, I've only heard men say they dislike him.
Perhaps they find him a threat, all decked out in black leather, studded
with hormones and drenched in charisma. We often dislike those we fear
or envy.
Gail wrote:
>But when I got up to him and he asked me what my name was, one close up look
>and I was lucky I could remember what it was! And his smile! And those eyes!
>The man is frankly dangerous and should be registered with the TV police or
>something.
{snort! chortle} You make me feel distressed that I've never met him.
Pat P
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 09:36:41 -0800
From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: re [B7L] Die, Versification
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Neil Faulkner wrote:
> But ere this thread gets out of hand and Calle grows hysterical,
> I think it's time to draw a line beneath all things limerickal.
WAAAHHHH! But we're all having *fun* limmericking.
I've lafed at 'em all :-D
And they *do* contain B7 reference.
> Oh, and I'm still grappling with Ensor's fish. Can anyone suggest a
> suitable damage range for a pectoral fin attack?
>
Please do Avon's pet rock Sophron while you're at the stats.
Pat P
PS We are *still* waiting for Avon's numbers.
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:50:19 PST
From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Limericks, Continued
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(What's really irksome is I can't think of anything that rhymes with
'Travis' except 'myasthaenia gravis', which I haven't been able to work
into a limerick...yet...)
There was a young rebel named Veron
And Gan showed her nothing but carin'
But she was no victim,
The trait'ress, she tricked him!
Now he's crossing the Styx with Charon.
(Well at least that's how *I* see it.)
Singing,
Hooray for the Federation!
Birth of a (Terry) Nation!
With mind-control drugs
And jackbooted thugs
Who shoot without provocation!
--Penny "Not From Nantucket" Dreadful
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