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blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 85
Today's Topics:
Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues
[B7L] Bad news
Re: [B7L] Bad news
[B7L] Re: Zine help
[B7L] Zine help? -> PGP
Re: [B7L] Avon & Vena (was Re:Allure...)
Re: [B7L] Run for the hills...
[B7L] Berkeley Personality Profile
Re: [B7L] Career change?
Re: [B7L] Career change?
[B7L] Sex Kittens of Virn
Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues
Re: [B7L] Run for the hills...
Re: [B7L] Sex Kittens of Virn
[B7L] Virn and Hills
Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills
Re: [B7L] Career change?
Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills
[B7L] Myers Briggs
RE: [B7L] Career change?
Re: [B7L] Career change?
Re: [B7L] Career change?
[B7L] "Aftermath" in frame library
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:12:50 +1100
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
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And now, of course, I've had *more* thoughts!
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 08:07:54AM -0800, mistral@ptinet.net wrote:
>
> Characters I prefer: Blake-Jenna-Avon-Vila-Soolin, in no particular
> order; I like the others too, just can't find much commonality with
> them. My favorite viewpoint is a really well written Vila, he seems to
> notice things and have insights the others wouldn't naturally have;
> also Soolin-- they both seem natural observers and commenters on life.
Unfortunately, Soolin is a very neglected character in fanfic; I can't
really think of any stories that take her as a viewpoint character.
Hmmm, one, a short, which I liked, called "These Dreams", which I
can't for the life of me remember what zine it was in.
If you want Vila, he gets a big role in the Deltah-Base stories in
_The Seven Live On_. They started in issue 1. It's a PGP. One of
the optimistic ones.
And on the PGP front, how could I have forgotten "Key" by Jenny
Hayward and Marie Logan? It's one of my most re-read zines!
Originally appeared in _Enarrare_ 5-7, it was reprinted in
_Chronicles_ 56/57/58 (a triple issue) and should still be
available.(*)
It concentrates on Avon, but has some good Vila bits. One good Vila
bit? And a tricksy plot. Avon has partial amnesia - he doesn't
remember shooting Blake. He's in Servalan's hands, she's found Orac,
but its key is missing. Lots of people are interested in Avon, with
secret agendas of their own. Who is friend and who is foe?
And where does Avon's brother fit in to all this? <very evil grin>
(*) I did the illos and layout of the Enarrare' edition, and the
illos and cover of the Chronicles edition, and wish the layout of the
Chronicles edition had been done better. Oh well, can't have
everything. The cover was yummy, even if I say so myself.
Another good Avon PGP is "Crucible" by Michelle Douglas in _Dark
Between The Stars_ 2. I got my copy second-hand, so I don't know if
it's still in print. The supporting characters are a bit flat, but I
like the Avon stuff in it. (IMHO, the story needs a good rewrite, but
I enjoyed it nonetheless). Does anyone know if Michelle ever wrote a
sequel? Does anyone know Michelle Douglas's address, so I can nag her
to write a sequel?
Kathryn Andersen
(who's supposed to be working on sequels herself...)
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:44:16 -0600 (EST)
From: Tegan Brandi <tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu>
To: space-city@world.std.com, B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Bad news
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you haven't heard, Babylon 5 -
Crusade is officially no longer going to happen. *pout* No new B7 avatars
on tv.
Apparently, TNT wan't behind the production the way that JMS wanted, they
went looking for SciFi Channel to pick it up, and SFC couldn't afford it,
having spent all thir money for the year. Instead of doing something he
doesn't believe in, JMS has stopped production on the show and the actors
have been released from their contracts. The 13 episodes that are in the
can are going to be aired, and if ratings are good there might be a second
season, but we shouldn't hold our breathe.
For now, JMS is going off to do someting for a major network.
This seriously bums me out. B7's influence on B5 is what got me to watch
B7 in the first place, and I was looking forward to seeing the two
universes collide.
tegan (*)
tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu
http://goddess.coe.missouri.edu/~tegan
Surreality is syrupy.
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 20:54:57 EST
From: SupeStud00@aol.com
To: tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu, space-city@world.std.com,
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In a message dated 2/26/99 8:53:00 PM EST, tegan@goddess.coe.missouri.edu
writes:
<<
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you haven't heard, Babylon 5 -
Crusade is officially no longer going to happen. *pout* No new B7 avatars
on tv.
Apparently, TNT wan't behind the production the way that JMS wanted, they
went looking for SciFi Channel to pick it up, and SFC couldn't afford it,
having spent all thir money for the year. Instead of doing something he
doesn't believe in, JMS has stopped production on the show and the actors
have been released from their contracts. The 13 episodes that are in the
can are going to be aired, and if ratings are good there might be a second
season, but we shouldn't hold our breathe.
For now, JMS is going off to do someting for a major network.
This seriously bums me out. B7's influence on B5 is what got me to watch
B7 in the first place, and I was looking forward to seeing the two
universes collide.
>>
Arrrgggghhhhh! I can't believe it.
Incidentally, Tegan, do you by any chance resemble the character Tegan Jovanka
from Dr. Who (she was a companion.) If so, are you available?
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 99 04:51:00 GMT
From: s.thompson8@genie.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Zine help
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Mistral, I think you'll really like the Bizarro and Cheeseboard zines. The
latter are an example of something that could be construed as a Mary Sue but
that nearly everyone likes anyway. =Renaissance= I haven't seen yet, of
course, but it sounds promising. Alternate Universe (AU) stories with a
historical setting are relatively rare in B7 fan fiction; there are only a
few of them so far.
You might consider some of Judith's reprints of fannish classics. I
especially like =The Road to Hell=, a collection of stories by Suzan Lovett
that have wonderfully intense Blake-Avon interaction.
The =Jabberwocky= series by Sheila Paulson is not exactly a PGP but rather
an alternate fourth series in which Cally does not die on Terminal after
all. Anything by Sheila Paulson is guaranteed to be well written and
usually fairly cheerful, as B7 fan fiction goes. Probably my top favorite
of her stories is a B-A story, "Game of Humanity" in =Probability Square=, a
zine that is still available in a reprint edition from Linda Knights (though
you may want to look for a used copy of a first edition in order to get the
best possible quality of reproduction on the scrumptious Lovett illos that
accompany the story). There's also a sequel to it in one of the =Blake's
Doubles= zines.
=The Machiavelli Factor= by EPS is another alternate post-Terminal story,
very complicated and interesting, as is anything by the same author.
I second Kathryn's recommendation of "The Pattern of Infinity" in the big
=Enarrare= zine, but you may have to hunt a bit to find it. I did see a
slightly battered used copy for sale last year at MediaWest. I think it's a
wonderful story. It is very Avon-centered, though, so some fans of other
characters find it less interesting.
Among my own top favorites are the =Program= and Ghost= PGP series by Judith
Seaman. The series is not finished but is very readable anyway. I like it
partly for its unusually high degree of SFishness and partly because Avon
suffers beautifully and at length. A must for get-Avon fans.
I also very much like the Hellhound series, a very long PGP series that has
appeared in various zines from Ashton Press (available through LInda
Knights). It is different in many ways from the original B7, but I find it
plausible and highly enjoyable. See the Ashton Press website for details (I
don't have the url on hand, but you can get there from Judith's page).
And remember that there are at least two excellent PGP series available on
line, Narrelle's =Phoenix= and J. Kel's =Pattern of Infinity= (the latter in
the fan fiction archive run by Vickie McManus, also reachable from Judith's
page). Be sure to check those out too!
Sarah T.
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 21:15:58 PST
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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mistral@ptinet.net wrote:
<I would like to read some PGP, but am beginning to infer that it is
mostly depressing....everybody on the list (she said, making a sweeping
overgeneralization) seems to think they all died on or shortly after
GP.>
To which Kathryn replied -
<The irony of PGP stories is that, even though most people may believe
that they all died, most PGPs act on the assumption that they didn't.>
So who do you *want* to have survived, Mistral?
My view (once I had forgiven everyone concerned for the ending - it only
took me 20 years!!!) was that I don't know. Not even about Blake. I
don�t *have* to know.
As far as PGP stories are concerned, I take the view that only three
survivors are really necessary (for dramatic purposes, you understand)
Avon (um - of course) and Blake (and I don�t care what Gareth Thomas�
contract said, if no one actually checked and made sure he was dead, he
might not be) to make way for an almighty explosion between two badly
damaged, very dangerous and seriously pissed off men - and poor Vila,
stuck in the middle with precious little if any trust in either of them
anymore. I do think Tarrant should survive long enough to let Avon know
*what* happened to him (fuelling said explosion with a vengeance).
The aftershocks could have filled a whole novel - or a season - quite
easily.
<_The Road to Hell and Other Stories_ is excellent, a "best of" Suzanne
Lovett.>
The Road to Hell is my favourite story so far. All the characters are
pretty close to the way I see them, especially Blake and Avon.
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:03:18 EST
From: Pherber@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon & Vena (was Re:Allure...)
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In a message dated 2/26/99 12:45:14 PM Mountain Standard Time,
mistral@ptinet.net writes:
> many people see an Avon/Cally connection -- remember in
> the early eps, when he just looked quietly at her a lot?
One of my favorite Avon/Cally scenes is in "The Web", when she finds him
taking the teleport apart. He's obviously startled by her, then goes sort of
quiet and looks at her with a *very* speculative expression - you can
practically see the wheels spinning in his head as he tries to figure out why
she's coming on to him and how to react. Another glimpse of the "real" Kerr
Avon, I think -- a little shy and appealingly geeky.
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:03:24 EST
From: Pherber@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Run for the hills...
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In a message dated 2/26/99 5:37:29 AM Mountain Standard Time, Mac4781@aol.com
writes:
> > Here's a story about a man named Roj
> > Who wanted his freedom so very much
> > He liked engineering, held his head high
> > And he hated the Feds but he didn't know why
>
> No doubt because of the "Here's a story" beginning, I sang this verse to
the
> tune of The Beverly Hillbillies theme. Try it, except for the second line,
> where some syllables have to be drawn out, it works pretty well.
<ROFL> I want you to know what a truly evil suggestion this was...I read this
before I went to work this morning and the bloody thing's been tormenting me
all day! <shudder>
Nina
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:03:27 EST
From: Pherber@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Berkeley Personality Profile
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In a message dated 2/24/99 10:09:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, Betty writes:
> So, there you have it, Avon's Berkeley Personality Profile, from the
> "too much time on my hands" files. :) I hope this was all of interest
> to *someone*...
Welcome, Betty! This *is* interesting, definitely a different approach.
Thank you for the effort.
Nina
Time to do more research!
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:03:23 EST
From: Pherber@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change?
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In a message dated 2/26/99 6:22:56 AM Mountain Standard Time,
csm80316@port.ac.uk writes:
> > > Techno-wizard? Hmmm...Now there's a thought - Avon as a technomage!
They'd
> > > have to give up the no-hair rule, though.
>
> Not to sure about the hair. Have you *seen* Paul lately? I think he'd
> make a great Technomage, JMS should sign him up.
Unfortunately, us poor Yanks don't get to see Paul very often if at all. I
think he'd make a fabulous Technomage! Or maybe a Centauri...can you imagine
him and Londo at a Centauri banquet?
Nina
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:16:24 -0800
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Pherber@aol.com wrote:
> Unfortunately, us poor Yanks don't get to see Paul very often if at all. I
> think he'd make a fabulous Technomage! Or maybe a Centauri...can you imagine
> him and Londo at a Centauri banquet?
LOL, Nina, he would make a perfect Centauri. Especially since they consider
themselves such ladies' men <evil, very evil grin>
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:28:56 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Now that I've got your attention...
Practicing yet more cyberspace conservation, I'm tossing together a mix of
replies that don't include any references to Virn, sex, or kittens. But I
couldn't think of any "subject" headers that I've not already used when I
combine posts.
Mistral wrote:
> Notice, please, how the godmother of the Tarrant Nostra evilly tempted me in
> by
> offering to lower Tarrant's scores, and than ran away to safety. <g>
I prefer the term strategic withdrawal. ;)
With quotes from Russ on "Wild Man Kerr":
> > I'd go along with this except for one thing. He's not wild enough! He's
> > always urging caution, complaining about the risks undertaken and
> > generally being very careful with his own life.
>
> Tries to tango with an asteroid? Goes to Malodar with a gun but no *
> bracelets*?
> Walks into the slave camp himself, and alone? Goes to Terminal alone?
A member of the Tarrant APA recently, and perceptively, pointed out that Avon
has a major weakness. He can't resist the lure of a trap. He thinks Terminal
is a trap; off he goes, full steam ahead. "Assassin" is another trap he
charged into. He suspected a trap in "Gold," and I think that made the scheme
all the more appealing to him.
Sally wrote:
> I do think Tarrant should survive long enough to let Avon know
> *what* happened to him (fuelling said explosion with a vengeance).
Poor Tarrant. He's been reduced to a plot device. <sniff> Well, at least
Sally thinks Avon will be sorry that Tarrant was so mistreated, or so I'm
guessing. Some PGPs have Avon reacting "if Tarrant weren't dead, I'd kill him
for his mistake," forgetting that Tarrant was just a pawn in Blake's testing
program. A badly injured and very heroic pawn, I might add.
Nina wrote:
> I want you to know what a truly evil suggestion this was...I read this
> before I went to work this morning and the bloody thing's been tormenting
me
> all day!
Sorry about that... :) Those silly tunes do have a way of sticking with us,
don't they?
Carol Mc
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:28:54 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Zine help? was Re: Mary Sues
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Mistral wrote:
> I am willing to read just about anything gen except to
> *unknowingly* read a Mary-Sue, which in fact I would also read if it had a
> good
> story and I had a chance to erect some internal emotional walls first.
I think part of the problem in regard to "labeling" (for warning purposes)
Mary Sues is in the definition of what constitutes a Mary Sue, which varies
according to individual readers. Are all ocfs (original character, female)
who get involved with the regulars Mary Sues? Are only SuperCharacter ocfs
(not only get involved with the crew but have all the answers to all the
problems) Mary Sues? Also, for my tastes, I've read stories where I thought
Servalan, Cally, etc. were turned into Mary Sues (endowed with too many of the
writer's feelings, and hence no longer in character as I see them in the
show). On the good side, for you, there aren't a lot of overly blatant MSs
in print zines that I can recall (mind you, my memory is better at recalling
stories I've loved, and read and reread, rather than stories I've not liked).
I can only recall two zines (as in a series of zines from the same editors)
that have a consistently high proportion of ocfs: Rebel and Oracle.
> My taste in B7 fanfic is fairly catholic, although I would prefer to begin
> with
> things that resemble episodes, and more humorous than dark -- just for
> starters; I
> like dark too, but sometimes I have to be careful what I feed my brain; I'd
> like
> to have nice things to read on hand first.
You don't like to make things difficult, do you? Resemble episodes and more
humorous than dark don't exactly go together. ;-)
> Characters I prefer: Blake-Jenna-Avon-Vila-Soolin,
Not to mention make it impossible for me to help. I notice a distinct lack of
Tarrant in that list. <g>
But I see that more knowledgeable others have shared specific recommendations
with you. I'd add a recommendation that you pick up a couple of anthology
zines to get a feel for authors/exact stories. Most mega-anthology zines
should contain a proportion of stories that you'll like (maybe even fall in
love with). Horizon zines tend to have stories that are more like episodes.
US anthology zines tend more toward exploring the characters beyond what we
saw on screen. Anthology zines usually also have a mix of light and dark.
A practical way to explore zines is to buy used. If you go to any major media
con you can often find very good bargains ($20 zines selling for $5-10). Last
month, Roseanne Postelnek told us about the upcoming Internet Zine Sale by the
Revelcon group. I popped in on it last year and there were B7 bargains
available. If you need that URL, let me know and I'll send it along.
I very much second Sarah's recommendation of the on-line zine Phoenix. It's
top quality. Also, Vickie's site, which includes stories from out-of-print
zines. If you are into Avon-Vila, which I kind of gathered from some of your
posts <g>, the A-V authors I've enjoyed who immediately come to mind are Kathy
Hintze and the collaborative duo of Annie Wortham and Leah Rosenthal.
Speaking of which, Annie and Leah have fiction archived on their web site
which you might want to check out. I absolutely adore their "The Play's the
Thing"--which is episodic in feel, includes touches of humor, and explores the
characters. All right--stop shining the lights in my face--I'll confess. The
story also has wonderful Tarrant in it, but it's hard to completely avoid him
when reading fanfic ;). Another web site with archived zine fic that I'd
recommend is Jean Graham's.
Carol Mc
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:33:38 -0500
From: Susan Beth <sbs@world.std.com>
To: blake7@lysator.liu.se
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Pherber@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 2/26/99 5:37:29 AM Mountain Standard Time, Mac4781@aol.com
>writes:
>
>> > Here's a story about a man named Roj
>> > Who wanted his freedom so very much
>> > He liked engineering, held his head high
>> > And he hated the Feds but he didn't know why
>>
>> No doubt because of the "Here's a story" beginning, I sang this verse to
>the
>> tune of The Beverly Hillbillies theme. Try it, except for the second
line,
>> where some syllables have to be drawn out, it works pretty well.
>
><ROFL> I want you to know what a truly evil suggestion this was...I read
this
>before I went to work this morning and the bloody thing's been tormenting me
>all day! <shudder>
>
This is *weird*, because when I read it what popped into my mind was the
theme song for the Brady Bunch -- and it pretty much works for that, too,
with syllables rushed instead of drawn out....
Susan Beth
(sbs@world.std.com)
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:14:37 -0800
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Mac4781@aol.com wrote:
> A member of the Tarrant APA recently, and perceptively, pointed out that Avon
> has a major weakness. He can't resist the lure of a trap. He thinks Terminal
> is a trap; off he goes, full steam ahead. "Assassin" is another trap he
> charged into. He suspected a trap in "Gold," and I think that made the scheme
> all the more appealing to him.
Ha, ha. Yes, I hadn't thought about that; generally traps set by Servalan, and
generally with Avon-specific bait. Tarrant, OTOH, falls into any old trap set by
any old ordinary enemy -- Ultraworld, Harvest, City, Sarcophagus.
> Poor Tarrant. He's been reduced to a plot device. <sniff>
Not at all! Tarrant was always a plot device :)
<bounce>
Mistral
--
"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:45:28 EST
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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Mistral wrote:
> Ha, ha. Yes, I hadn't thought about that; generally traps set by Servalan,
> and
> generally with Avon-specific bait. Tarrant, OTOH, falls into any old trap
> set by
> any old ordinary enemy -- Ultraworld, Harvest, City, Sarcophagus.
It's a wonder the third and fourth season crews survived as long as they did
with two such reckless boy wonders directing operations. What seems to be
their saving grace is that Avon and Tarrant usually took turns at reckless
behaviors. Though they both would have ended up as Cancer bait if Soolin
hadn't been on the scene.
My favorite reckless Tarrant moment is when he runs *toward* the bomb that is
about to explode in "Warlord."
> Not at all! Tarrant was always a plot device :)
Might I urge everyone to send condolences to Mistral's family and friends in
anticipation of her premature demise. A universe...er...list without her will
take a certain amount of getting used to. ;)
Susan Beth shared:
> This is *weird*, because when I read it what popped into my mind was the
> theme song for the Brady Bunch -- and it pretty much works for that, too,
> with syllables rushed instead of drawn out....
It does! This is scary. We are left with:
1. Are all tv theme songs actually the same tune?
and
2. How many musically challenged fans attempt to fit filks to tunes they know?
Carol Mc
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:23:41 -0800
From: mistral@ptinet.net
To: B7 list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills
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Mac4781@aol.com wrote:
> It's a wonder the third and fourth season crews survived as long as they did
> with two such reckless boy wonders directing operations. What seems to be
> their saving grace is that Avon and Tarrant usually took turns at reckless
> behaviors. Though they both would have ended up as Cancer bait if Soolin
> hadn't been on the scene.
'Ray Soolin! But the real reason the boy (Tarrant) and the wonder (Avon) ;-)
didn't get everybody killed sooner is that the real hero (Vila) was always
sheltering them in the umbrella of his luck -- he must be of Irish descent. Vila
is obviously the centerpiece of the band, being the only character who appears in
all 52 episodes. ;-P
Mistral
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"And for my next trick, I shall swallow my other foot."--Vila
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:13:03 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: B7 list 1 <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change?
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mistral@ptinet.net wrote:
>
> Pherber@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, us poor Yanks don't get to see Paul very often if at all. I
> > think he'd make a fabulous Technomage! Or maybe a Centauri...can you imagine
> > him and Londo at a Centauri banquet?
>
> LOL, Nina, he would make a perfect Centauri. Especially since they consider
> themselves such ladies' men <evil, very evil grin>
>
I can picture it now.
A splendid ridge of hair, except for this gap in the center... a coat
cut in the approved Regency-style men's formal wear, made of pure black
leather. A silver lame sash runs crosswise, shoulder to knee, indicating
his high rank. And around all edges of the coat, a line of white piping
and a double row of silver studs. He surveys himself in a mirror with an
off-kilter smile.
"I thought my career was dead after I got stuck on a ship with that mad
rebel, Blaicoroggi. Fortunately, the new Emperor had no love of the old,
and I might be able to regain my ministry in the financial sector.
V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul who preffered
life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed
his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden
things) into place, and handed Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane.
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:28:23 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: B7 list 1 <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Virn and Hills
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mistral@ptinet.net wrote:
>
> 'Ray Soolin! But the real reason the boy (Tarrant) and the wonder (Avon) ;-)
> didn't get everybody killed sooner is that the real hero (Vila) was always
> sheltering them in the umbrella of his luck -- he must be of Irish descent. Vila
> is obviously the centerpiece of the band, being the only character who appears in
> all 52 episodes. ;-P
You're right! Vila is Mr. Lucky, isn't he? I would say it's the
Rincewind connection, myself. (The Lady tosses 7s)-- You know, I had
never seent hem as very similiar until it was brought up on the list,
and later the Flat Robin. Now, I will never think of Rinsewind without
seeing Michael Keating's face.
I may need to open a special safehouse, a refuge for fugitives from the
Tarrant Nostra. Such _dangerous_ fans the gangly one has.Well, I suppose
those with a teeth-fetish would develop a nasty bite.
--Avona
fires and dives for cover
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Date: 27 Feb 1999 11:25:01 -0800
From: "Ma.James" <ma@ssdgwy.mdc.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Myers Briggs
Message-ID: <n1292007668.29709@SSDGWY.mdc.com>
>Russ wrote:
>I hate this Myers-Briggs thing. Am I the only one deleting all
>these posts?
Nope! I seem to be deleting 90% of the lysator posts. Anything that has Myers
Briggs in the title and anything from Vick. I notice that Cynthia <NetSurf> is
doing the same thing.
Not that I have anything against Myers Briggs or Vick, I would simply rather
base my interpretations of the characters on what I see on the screen rather
than on a questionable personality test. So I'm deleting, deleting, deleting...
Again, let me stress, this is not any kind of dislike or contempt for Vick.
It's just that I know anything from him will be colored by Myers Briggs and *I*
don't want to 'hear' it.
For me, the whole Myers Briggs thing is boring. Gee, I never thought I'd hear
myself say that *anything* on lysator was boring...
Candace
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:22:22 +0100
From: Jacqueline Thijsen <jacqueline.thijsen@cmg.nl>
To: B7 list 1 <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Career change?
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Avona wrote:
> "I thought my career was dead after I got stuck on a ship with that mad
> rebel, Blaicoroggi. Fortunately, the new Emperor had no love of the old,
> and I might be able to regain my ministry in the financial sector.
> V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul who preffered
> life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed
> his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden
> things) into place, and handed Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane.
>
I love this! Maybe we can do a B7-B5 crossover when we're done with the
discworld?
Jacqueline
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:16:17 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
To: B7 list 1 <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Career change?
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Jacqueline Thijsen wrote:
>
> Avona wrote:
>
> > "I thought my career was dead after I got stuck on a ship with that mad
> > rebel, Blaicoroggi. Fortunately, the new Emperor had no love of the old,
> > and I might be able to regain my ministry in the financial sector.
> > V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul who preffered
> > life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed
> > his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden
> > things) into place, and handed Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane.
> >
> I love this! Maybe we can do a B7-B5 crossover when we're done with the
> discworld?
>
> Jacqueline
Bwahahahaha! My sinister plan to lure other fans into a new story idea
worked!
--Avona
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:32:49 -0800
From: mistral@ptinet.net
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Avona wrote:
> V'lan!" He snaps his fingers, and the Narn, a free soul who preffered
> life in a civilization where there were things worth stealing, brushed
> his own drab clothing (which held an assortment of useful, hidden
> things) into place, and handed Avon Kerronoli his ornate sword cane.
More, Avona! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?
<bounce>
Mistral
--
A day without Avon and Vila is like a day without Vila and Avon
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:25:07 -0600
From: Lisa Williams <lcw@dallas.net>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] "Aftermath" in frame library
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"Aftermath" has been added to my B7 video frame capture library. The
library is located at: <http://lcw.simplenet.com/b7lib.html>.
- Lisa
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Lisa Williams: lcw@dallas.net or lwilliams@rsc.raytheon.com
Lisa's Video Frame Capture Library: http://lcw.simplenet.com/
New Riders of the Golden Age: http://www.warhorse.com/
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