The Charlatans Digest Tue Jun 25, 1996 Volume 2 : Issue 13 There are 65 messages totalling 1375 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Thats Entertainment (4) 2. In commercials (7) 3. Top 5 (2) 4. Top 5 Results! (4) 5. NME on the Net 6. Viva CREAM 7. Fuck off you deeply boring people. 8. charlatans fans (2) 9. Hello? (9) 10. GO ON THE SCOTLAND 11. football (was: hello?) (2) 12. Dug up some ancient select mag pictures 13. Football Championship (13) 14. NON-CharlatansRE:Wu-tang 15. when I first stepped on the scene.... 16. Not from Manchester (2) 17. Inspirals?Northside?Smith. (2) 18. Tim alert!! 19. Reply to: Re: Hello? 20. Inspirals? 21. Happy birthday Eirik! (7) 22. sorry all --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 13:29:07 BST From: CHEEZIE Subject: Thats Entertainment Allo, right since i've been on this list i've noticed that everyone seems to like the Charlies album between 10th and 11th, however I thinks it is a pile of pants. Don't get me wrong, i'm as big a fan of the Charlies as the next, but except for "Page One" the rest of the songs are rubbish.This Album compared to the other three just isn't in the same league. Right goodbye then, Cheezie. p.s. Dubstar are complete rubbish. --------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:17:32 EST5EDT From: "jim lowe" Subject: Re: Thats Entertainment >of pants. Don't get me wrong, i'm as big a fan of the Charlies as the next, >but except for "Page One" the rest of the songs are rubbish.This Album >compared to the other three just isn't in the same league. Right goodbye then, >Cheezie. What about "Can't Even Be Bothered"? That's a great song!!! jim -------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 06:30:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Benda Subject: In commercials First it was Ride's "Chrome Waves" used as the backing track for the Nike US Womens' Soccer Team last year and then Elastica's "Connection" for the Budwiser Blimp commercial (for Christ's sake) and now, last night I was watching like, the news, or the Sonic's game or something and, well, y'all know, probably in the UK, too, these Microsoft "Where do you want to go today?" commercials. Well, the new one has about 10 seconds from "Life is Sweet", the break down part where it says "Check it", while the mouse pointer move around clicking various icons. Boys and girls, it's an "alternative" world we All live in. Well, at least someone up at Microsoft Palace is listening to Chemical Brothers/Charlatans..........that can't be a bad thing...or can it.....? cheers, jason ---------------------------- Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 08:27:25 -0500 From: Shane and Kari Winn Subject: Top 5 Hey! If you haven't sent me your top 5 Charlatans tunes and still want to participate, I'm not going to post it until later tonight. All of the slots are tied up, and some more votes would really be helpful! Send all replies to : kwinn@niu.edu Thanks! Keep on keepin' on, Kari ----------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:40:47 -0400 (EDT) From: David Reichert Subject: Re: In commercials >First it was Ride's "Chrome Waves" used as the backing track for the Nike >US Womens' Soccer Team last year and then Elastica's "Connection" for the >Budwiser Blimp commercial (for Christ's sake) and now, last night I was >watching like, the news, or the Sonic's game or something and, well, >y'all know, probably in the UK, too, these Microsoft "Where do you want >to go today?" commercials. Well, the new one has about 10 seconds from >"Life is Sweet", the break down part where it says "Check it", while the >mouse pointer move around clicking various icons. Also, In Canada at least, Lush's "Sweetness and Light" is used in a Volkswagen commercial. Cheers! DAVE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:33:09 +0100 (BST) From: Mr M P Donnelly Subject: Re: Thats Entertainment On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, CHEEZIE wrote: > Allo, right since i've been on this list i've noticed that everyone seems to > like the Charlies album between 10th and 11th, however I thinks it is a pile > of pants. Don't get me wrong, i'm as big a fan of the Charlies as the next, > but except for "Page One" the rest of the songs are rubbish.This Album > compared to the other three just isn't in the same league. Right goodbye then, > Cheezie. > > p.s. Dubstar are complete rubbish. Sory but youre wrong, it is by far the best album, especially "Can't even be Bothered", a perfect metaphor for my life Dubstar are poor but coming to my uni in 2 weeks, should be fun-NOT Mike ---------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:46:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett A Hand Subject: Re: Top 5 my top five are 1. subtitle 2. weirdo 3. nine acre court 4. the only one i know 5. just lookin' -------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 17:39:16 -0500 (CDT) From: jba076@airmail.net (josh barnett) Subject: Re: In commercials >>First it was Ride's "Chrome Waves" used as the backing track for the Nike >>US Womens' Soccer Team last year and then Elastica's "Connection" for the >>Budwiser Blimp commercial (for Christ's sake) and now, last night I was >>watching like, the news, or the Sonic's game or something and, well, >>y'all know, probably in the UK, too, these Microsoft "Where do you want >>to go today?" commercials. Well, the new one has about 10 seconds from >>"Life is Sweet", the break down part where it says "Check it", while the >>mouse pointer move around clicking various icons. >> > >Also, In Canada at least, Lush's "Sweetness and Light" is used in a >Volkswagen commercial. james has a song featured in a hotel commercial here in the states. sorry dave but the leafs didn't go too far this season, but don't worry, my red wings didn't either. josh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 20:40:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Are you a fox or a hedgehog? Subject: Re: In commercials >First it was Ride's "Chrome Waves" used as the backing track for the Nike >US Womens' Soccer Team last year and then Elastica's "Connection" for the >Budwiser Blimp commercial (for Christ's sake) and now, last night I was >watching like, the news, or the Sonic's game or something and, well, >y'all know, probably in the UK, too, these Microsoft "Where do you want >to go today?" commercials. Well, the new one has about 10 seconds from >"Life is Sweet", the break down part where it says "Check it", while the >mouse pointer move around clicking various icons. And let's not forget Luna's "California" in a Calvin Klein ad! That's almost as bad as the Microsoft one.. By the way, this is my first post, so hello everyone! :) Amanda D. KosherBacon@tmbg.org http://www.afn.org/~afn37647/ ------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:12:00 -0400 From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans) Subject: Re: In commercials >>Also, In Canada at least, Lush's "Sweetness and Light" is used in a >>Volkswagen commercial. that was part of a huge 4Ad deal signed with VW either last year or the year before. cost VW tonnes of money. oh and then there is bjork used in a Mars commercial. and i always here "indie" stuff like ride/oasis/charlatans/stone roses/primal scream on newsworld's "fashion file" and several entertainment magazine programs. --------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 00:07:58 -0400 (EDT) From: David Reichert Subject: Re: In commercials At 22:12 03/06/96 -0400, you wrote: > >>> >>>Also, In Canada at least, Lush's "Sweetness and Light" is used in a >>>Volkswagen commercial. > >that was part of a huge 4Ad deal signed with VW either last year or the year >before. cost VW tonnes of money. oh and then there is bjork used in a Mars >commercial. and i always here "indie" stuff like >ride/oasis/charlatans/stone roses/primal scream on newsworld's "fashion >file" and several entertainment magazine programs. Good old CBC! Knows good music when it hears it. Cheers DAVE -------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:21:45 -0400 (EDT) From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina Clair) Subject: Re: Thats Entertainment > On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, CHEEZIE wrote: > > > Allo, right since i've been on this list i've noticed that everyone seems to > > like the Charlies album between 10th and 11th, however I thinks it is a pile > > of pants. Don't get me wrong, i'm as big a fan of the Charlies as the next, > > but except for "Page One" the rest of the songs are rubbish.This Album > > compared to the other three just isn't in the same league. Right goodbye then, > > Cheezie. I agree it is not the same as the other three, but I like it much more. There is much more to the songs, lyrically and musically, for me. Have you ever really LISTENED to it? There are so many sounds in the background that I didn't catch for the first two years I had it. Then, at a concert once, Tim called it their most psychedelic record. That made me rethink it and listen to it differently. Personally, I think that it is so different from the other three that I wouldn't even venture to make any kind of comparison ------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:13:55 EST5EDT From: "jim lowe" Subject: Re: In commercials Another example of indie music in adverts; Blur's "There's No Other Way" was used for a jeans commercial on the French-Canadian version of MTV (Musique Plus). I often hear the charlies on those syndicated "Entertainment Tonight" clones...one time, it was in a story on John Bobbit! ("Polar Bear", I think). jim jim lowe - jlowe@central.georcoll.on.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 20:07:47 -0500 From: Shane and Kari Winn Subject: Top 5 Results! Hey everybody! Here are the results of the Top 5 poll. Sorry I took so long to get them back, but it took awhile to sort through it all. Thanks again to everyone who participated!! The Top 5 Are: #1) "The Only One I Know" (won by a landslide...) #2) "Sproston Green" #3) "Just When You're Thinkin' Things Over" and "Then" (tie) #4) "Weirdo" #5) "Page One" Following after the Top 5: #6) "Can't Even Be Bothered" and "Can't Get Out Of Bed" (tie) #7) "Opportunity", "I Never Want An Easy Life...", "Inside-Looking Out", "Just Lookin'" and "Here Comes A Soul Saver" (5-way tie) #8) "Chewing Gum Weekend", "Jesus Hairdo" and "Patrol" (3-way tie) #9) "White Shirt", "Subtitle", "Come In Number 21", "Feel Flows", "Crashin' In", "Bullet Comes", "Toothache", "No Fiction", and "Happen To Die" (9-way tie) #10) "Flower", "Tremelo Song", and "Nine Acre Court" (3-way tie) Keep on keepin' on, Kari ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:05:31 GMT+1000 From: "Nicole" Subject: NME on the Net Hey charlatans Does everyone know about the new nme website at: http://www.nme.com It has a great Timothy Leary article and Manics concert review. It's not totally on-line yet (for chatgroups etc) but is looking good. Unfortunately, the Public NME section didn't have any juicy gossip to report on The Charlatans latest misdeeds and endeavours, so if anyone here can appease our appetite, just go ahead. cheers Nicole -------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 96 13:52:39 PDT From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" Subject: Re: Viva CREAM Cassandra You're in the states an we got plenty of madchester clubs all you gotta do is look ---------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 96 13:44:19 PDT From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" Subject: RE: Top 5 Results! I can't believe Happen to die didn't even make the top 5. ---------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:57:31 -0400 From: kangela@DAX.CC.UAKRON.EDU (thymiane) Subject: Re: Fuck off you deeply boring people. >Stop sending me shit E-mails. You are all cunts. Stop being so sad. Go to >the fucking pub. Get a shag. Try and be interesting. Wankers. > > Lots of love > Greig. > bite me. even more love, angela. ---------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:18:17 -0400 From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans) Subject: RE: Top 5 Results! >I can't believe Happen to die didn't even make the top 5. well i think i missed the voting for the top 5 so i'll vote on them now 1) then 2) over rising & happen to die 3) everything changed 4) don't want to see the sights 5) flower & soul saver --------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:58:36 PDT From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" Subject: RE: Top 5 Results! Happen to die is such a cool song. That whole Over Rising disc is incredible. I remember being so stoked when that came out,thinking an album would be released shortly after.Then Me in Time came out and still no 2nd album. What a depressing time in my life: No Stone Roses and no Charlies. Had to make do with the likes of blur and the inspirals and constant re releases courtesy of silvertone. Anyone else have any similar experience? -Cressa ----------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:21:06 -0700 (PDT) From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov) Subject: charlatans fans Hi everyone! Every couple of months I try to update my list of Charlatans fans from around the world. If you don't see your personal info in the list bellow, and if you feel like providing it, please do so by sending e-mail to my personal address - klyakov@ucsd.edu. PLEASE, DO NOT REPLY TO THE LIST! Thank you! /1/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ name: Dave Gardin e-mail: DavidG6523@aol.com location: San Jose, California country: USA additional info: Male, age 35, Inventory Control Planner /2/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ name: Martin Fawley e-mail: "(What's the story...) Martin Fawley" location: Malvern country: England additional info: Occupation: Student at Bath University, but currently on a years placement in Malvern (nr. Worcester); Originally from Leeds. /3/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ name: Lisa Boshuizen e-mail: 9416641@edufee.fee.uva.nl location: Amsterdam country: Netherlands. additional info: b-day: December 15, 1974 /4/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ name: Erik Soderstrom e-mail: chief@lysator.liu.se location: Linkoping country: Sweden /5/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ name: Jim Lowe e-mail: "James D. Lowe" location: Barrie, Ontario country: Canada additional info: Research Director & College Instructor /6/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ name: Justin Beck e-mail: Justin Beck location: Irvine, California country: USA /7/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ name: Arthur Rehak e-mail: Rehak location: Kearny (NJ) country: USA /8/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ name: Douglas VanWieren e-mail: backbeat@IslandNet.com (backbeat@islandnet.com) location: Victoria, BC country: Canada /9/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ name: Tats e-mail: Graham.Robertson@ed.ac.uk location: Edinburgh country: Scotland additional info: Soccer Club : Heart of Midlothian; Age: 22; Sex : Male; Top5: Stone Roses, Charlatans, Happy Mondays, Oasis, Inspiral Carpets /10/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Krassi Lyakov e-mail: klyakov@ucsd.edu location: San Diego, California country: USA additional info: Bulgarian; b-day: September 22, 1973; hobbies: songwriting, listening to and playing music,painting, writing, reading, soccer, badminton, skiing; phone #: (619) 452 - 0461 (just in case someone ends up visiting San Diego - please feel free to give me a buzz and will go out for a coffee......) /11/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Sujay Jhaveri e-mail: Sujay Jhaveri location: New York country: USA /12/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Greg Ipp e-mail: "Greg Ipp" location: Vancouver, BC country: Canada /13/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Merrilee Wolsey e-mail: MERRILEE WOLSEY location: Lethbridge, AB. country: Canada additional info: age 21, from vancouver, bc. canada, senior art student /14/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: John Bergstrom location: Milwaukee Wisconsin country: USA /15/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Andy Fraire e-mail: andyf@as.ucsb.edu location: Santa Barbara, CA country: USA additional info: Music Director KCSB-FM, Best record of the year: Chemical Brothers "Exit Planet Dust"..and i made that choice before hearing Tim say it. /16/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Matt Ungerer e-mail: Munj@aol.com location: Syracuse, NY country: USA additional info: exact address: Matt Ungerer 302 Meadow Rd. Syracuse, NY 13219 USA /17/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Christine Jack e-mail: cjack@islandnet.com location: Victoria B.C country: Canada /18/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Lee Talbot e-mail: etllett@etlxdmx.ericsson.se location: Brighton country: UK additional info: 23 year old male, Software Designer. Originally from Bridgend, S.Wales. /19/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Shane Brown e-mail: sbrown@netexpress.net (Shane M Brown) location: Rock Island, IL country: USA additional info: street address 1103 25th St. #B2, Rock Island, IL 61201 USA Male, age 25, Classified Telesales Representatives for a local newspaper. My tops for 1995: Tricky, Chemical Bros Radiohead, Swervedriver, Oasis, Charlies. /20/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Niklas Hultin e-mail: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin) location: Sewanee, TN country: USA /21/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Steven Linderman e-mail: x95linderman@wmich.edu location: Western Michigan University country: USA /22/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Ioanna Kotsogiannis e-mail: iwavva@umich.edu location: Ann Arbor, Michigan country: USA additional info: Greek, Political Science/Anthropology major, University of Michigan 18 years old (b-day: September 6, 1977), love poetry, art, and dancing /23/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Chris Steinmetz e-mail: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz) location: Savannah, GA country: USA additional info: addres: 402 E. 55th St., Savannah, Ga. 31405 USA end. Peace! Krassi -------------------------------- Date: 10 Jun 96 12:10:00 -0500 From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com Subject: Re: charlatans fans Everyone! the new select magazine has a free tape with the Charlies on it! The song is Nine Acre Dust. Although it's not a new song it is something for the gotta have it all charlies fan. Just thought I'd let everyon know. As it is the only "new" Charlies news we've had in a bit. Cheers Travis Come in 5 different flavors r3278c@email.mot.com ---------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:36:07 -0700 From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe) Subject: Hello? Has everyone disappeared? Surely somebody must have something to talk about? Any new news on the Charlies or other related topics? Okay, how about some old news? Please, somebody humour me and the rest of the list! Jen ----------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:09:02 -0500 (CDT) From: jba076@airmail.net (josh barnett) Subject: Re: Hello? >Has everyone disappeared? Surely somebody must have something to talk >about? Any new news on the Charlies or other related topics? Okay, how >about some old news? Please, somebody humour me and the rest of the list! o.k. i was reading that tim was into the wu-tang clan. they are a new york rap group that some feel are the next wave of rap. the new style. the new fad. there are about 5 or 6 in the group and their big pull is that they are into martial arts and alias'. the fact about them is that they are just another 'guns and bitches' hardcore rap group. but that is what tim was talking about. the fact that they speak about things he has not experienced. i just wish that tim could listen to some good hip hop (such as de la soul or the roots) and hear about that stuff from people who think it's the downfall of the community and wish it could be changed instead of hearing about it from people who just want to make money! josh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:51:55 -0700 From: erin pham Subject: Re: Hello? At 02:36 PM 6/10/96 -0700, you wrote: >Has everyone disappeared? Surely somebody must have something to talk >about? Any new news on the Charlies or other related topics? Okay, how >about some old news? Please, somebody humour me and the rest of the list! Hi there!! This is my first post here on the charlatans thingy-mi-jig. So what was the old news? hehehe!! I haven't a clue!! Maybe you ought to start and we'll take it from there!! sound like an idea? In the meantime, here is something completely out of range of the purpose of this list thing. Here's a top 20 list that'll past the time and serve some kind of purpose in the humor business!! This is for your reading pleasure!! Enjoy!! ********************* TWENTY REASONS WHY CHOCOLATE IS BETTER THAN SEX: 1. You can GET chocolate. 2. "If you love me, you'll swallow that" has real meaning with chocolate 3. Chocolate satisfies even when it has gone soft. 4. You can safely have chocolate while you are driving. 5. You can make chocolate last as long as you want it to. 6. You can have chocolate even in front of your mother. 7. If you bite the nuts too hard, the chocolate won't mind. 8. Two people of the same sex can have chocolate without being called nasty names. 9. The word "commitment" doesn't scare off chocolate. 10. You can have chocolate on top of your workbench/desk during working hours without upsetting your work mates. 11. You can ask a stranger for chocolate without getting your face slapped. 12. You don't get hairs in your mouth with chocolate (eeww - this one conjurs up some vivid pictures) 13. With chocolate, there's no need to fake it. 14. Chocolate doesn't make you pregnant. 15. You can have chocolate any time of the month. 16. Good chocolate is easy to find. 17. You can have as many kinds of chocolate as you can handle. 18. You are never too young or too old for chocolate. 19. When you have chocolate, it does not keep your neighbors awake. 20. With chocolate, size doesn't matter; it's always good. *********************** cheers!! Erin ------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 20:17:48 -0500 (EST) From: The Stateside Blue Subject: Re: Hello? hi jen, hmmm, well lets see... at the moment for myself, EURO 96 is going on thus taking a lot of my attention. England's embarassment to Switz. could prove to be fatal. perhaps Italy will raise my spirits. nothing i know of concerning charlies though, just the news of the band in the recording studio! maybe a late summer release and a fall tour like last year!!!! it's been fun following your posts :) keep up the cheer! rene' -------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:24:49 +0930 (GMT+0930) From: "P.D" <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Hello? England have been indeed dissapointing against Swiss, but who agrees that the biggest suprise comes from their neigbours Scotland and their gutsy performance against Dutch. On the current merits i fancy Scots to qualify before England in their group... Peter D, ------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 09:46:20 +0100 (BST) From: pooh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Subject: Re: Hello? AM HAVING A BIT OF A SNOOZE HERE WHAT TIME IS IT NOW? -------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:40:05 +0100 (BST) From: Mr M P Donnelly Subject: GO ON THE SCOTLAND EURO 96 is in the bag, just wait till Saturday!!!! --------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:08:11 -0400 From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans) Subject: football (was: hello?) >England have been indeed dissapointing against Swiss, but who agrees that >the biggest suprise comes from their neigbours Scotland and their gutsy >performance against Dutch. On the current merits i fancy Scots to >qualify before England in their group... yeah, but how embarassing is wales playing? gawd it can not be as dissappointing as their rugby lately. am i going to have my friends mocking me with their football results as i do with their rugby results. tell me ryan giggs is saving the day for them? --------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:45:13 -0700 From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe) Subject: Re: Hello? >Hi there!! This is my first post here on the charlatans thingy-mi-jig. So >what was the old news? hehehe!! I haven't a clue!! Maybe you ought to >start and we'll take it from there!! sound like an idea? In the meantime, >here is something completely out of range of the purpose of this list thing. >Here's a top 20 list that'll past the time and serve some kind of purpose in >the humor business!! This is for your reading pleasure!! Enjoy!! >********************* > >TWENTY REASONS WHY CHOCOLATE IS BETTER THAN SEX: Ha, Ha! Funny post, Erin, and welcome to the list. We haven't been talking much, as the Charlie's are kinda in limbo (recording album, and such). Although, we did have nice discussions about "Jesus Hairdo" and the Chemical (Dust) brothers, and we also talked for some time about which celebs wear what brand of trainers. Laugh if you must, but it was fun. However, I do have a something for us ot talk about. It's somebody's birthday today but you have to guess who's it is. Hint: there are 3 letters in her name, and it rhymes with den, hen, men, pen, ten, and zen. I'll say no more, as I don't want to give it away. Oh, and for those following EURO '96, keep us posted! Jen (a name that rhymes with lots of things!) --------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:45:20 -0700 From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe) Subject: Re: Hello? >hi jen, > >hmmm, well lets see... >at the moment for myself, EURO 96 is going on >thus taking a lot of my attention. England's >embarassment to Switz. could prove to be fatal. >perhaps Italy will raise my spirits. nothing >i know of concerning charlies though, just the >news of the band in the recording studio! maybe >a late summer release and a fall tour like last year!!!! >it's been fun following your posts :) >keep up the cheer! Thanks rene'! I like to keep people like you happy, because if I do that then you keep people like me happy! If you didn't follow that, then disregard it. Just know that it was a nice comment. Let's hope for a fall tour! (she said with crossed fingers). Jen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:30:25 -0700 From: erin pham Subject: Re: Hello? Jen wrote something like this: >However, I do have a something for us ot talk about. It's somebody's >birthday today but you have to guess who's it is. Hint: there are 3 >letters in her name, and it rhymes with den, hen, men, pen, ten, and zen. >I'll say no more, as I don't want to give it away. Hahahaha!! I laughed out loud at this!! (Obviously, I find anything amusing...) You must bear with me *:-)!!! Happy birthday Jen!!! How old are ya? Lucky girl!! Any presents on the way? Ok, I've got nothing else to say. DANG-IT!! My brain has turned to mush now that finals are over. Talk to ya later!!! Ciao!! Erin P.S Anyone have any delicious details about anything? Hmmmm.... ---------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:30:48 -0700 From: erin pham Subject: Dug up some ancient select mag pictures Ok, old stuff on the charlies...I was spring cleaning in my closet and desk drawers (a bit late, but hey...spring cleaning? Must it necessarily be done during the spring?) Oh yeah, what was I saying? Hmmm... Oh yeah!! I found some old pictures of the charlies in an old issue of Select Magazine. I think it's a 1992 edition. Anyhoo, they've got some great pictures the the charlies in it!! I never really thought about them back then. That was during the Jesus Jones era. Hmmmph.. What a disappointment. I think I'll resurrect those pics and stick them on my wall. There are some cool Lush and Blur pictures in there too. Whoa. Thank goodness I don't clean my room very often. Otherwise, I'd have thrown away those precious mags. Moral of the story? There is none. I'm just babbling, but hey, I'm entitled!! Ciao!! Erin ------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:12:22 -0400 From: Taille Subject: Football Championship Has New Order recorded another really shit song for this Championship too. Or have they learned their lesson and retired? Note: Since there hasn't been anything interesting on the Charlatans for some time, you must all be bored enough to answer a question for me. Anyone know what happened to Darkside or the Inspiral Carpets? Both bands produced some stunning records. It would be a shame to end it now. -------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 20:55:17 -0800 From: Cassandra Frankos Subject: NON-CharlatansRE:Wu-tang NON-Charlatans related!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought all the fashion/shoe related posts were quite humorous, but to bring up the Wu-tang, I gotta respond. Do you have 36 Chambers? Do you have any of the single members releases? They are an east-coast thing, that's only starting to pick up hype in the west coast. I don't know if you have listened to them, but to say it's fact they're just about guns and bitches isn't accurate. Tim has good taste to be listening to the Wu-tang. If you do listen to any of them, listen to Liquid Swords by GZA. He talks about Labels manipulating rap artists, and about how money rules the world, and about how kids can't be safe cause there are bullets flying in their neighborhoods. It's an inner city portrait, GZA paints a picture. It's not all about gangsta rap. As far as making money goes, I think most bands/artists like the idea of making money, that way they can keep doing it... josh barnett wrote: > >o.k. i was reading that tim was into the wu-tang clan. they are a new york > rap group that some feel are the next wave of rap. the new style. the new > fad. there are about 5 or 6 in the group and their big pull is that they are > into martial arts and alias'. the fact about them is that they are just > another 'guns and bitches' hardcore rap group. but that is what tim was > talking about. the fact that they speak about things he has not experienced. > i just wish that tim could listen to some good hip hop (such as de la soul > or the roots) and hear about that stuff from people who think it's the > downfall of the community and wish it could be changed instead of hearing > about it from people who just want to make money! > josh -------------------------------- Date: 12 Jun 96 13:25:00 -0500 From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com Subject: Re: Football Championship I hate to be a negative c***, but I do feel that the inspirals were, are, and forever will be shite. Besides what's that got to do with football? or the Charlies? I read an intrview where Tim says that the inspirals were shite. Or something like that. -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:16:31 +0800 (WST) From: Kevin Johnson PhD Geopolitics Subject: Re: Football Championship I read the same interview where Tim Burgess slags off the Inspiral Carpets. Not that that would sway my opinion (although I happen to agree with him). Just a note to let you all know that there there are a few keen fans of the Charlatans in Perth and even a couple of local bands here that draw some of their inspiration from them. If you're ever in Perth check out Header, Round and, to some extent, Six Mile High. This being my first message I would like to express my concern that Between 10th and 11th is considered by many of you to be crap. I know its quite unlike all the other albums but it has a lot of great sound on it. And how come Patrol never got the accolades it deserves? Turn it up and listen to the riff. Kevin -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:50:00 +0930 (GMT+0930) From: "P.D" <9408427b@ntx.City.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Football Championship On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Taille wrote: > Has New Order recorded another really shit song for this Championship > too. Or have they learned their lesson and retired? > > Note: Since there hasn't been anything interesting on the > Charlatans for some time, you must all be bored enough to answer a > question for me. Anyone know what happened to Darkside or the > Inspiral Carpets? Both bands produced some stunning records. It > would be a shame to end it now. Easy on New Order, OK???? The 'World in Motion' is by far the best football song, there is. It was recorded in the period when England were recognised as a world football power so I guess Barney and co. had something to cheer about. Lets treasure those times 'cos they may never repeat again... not soon anyway ... having seen the Germans, Italians and French playing...! ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jun 96 17:59:00 -0500 From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com Subject: Re[2]: Football Championship Ya know after re-reading me mail it did sound like I based me opinion of the inspirals on that of what Tim said.I'd like to state that I did not like them before I read that interview. It really gets on me tits to be missunderstood that's why I'm writing this. I'VE NEVER LIKED THOSE SORRY C**** FROM MANCHESTER!!!(the inspirals I mean) Cheers Travis I sound like a stupid cunt an I know it-just let me at it r3278c@email.mot.com -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:16:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett A Hand Subject: Re: Re[2]: Football Championship hey i believe that this is my first post, but any way here is a related aspect of the Dust Brothers. On a They Might Be Giants single for Snail Shell, the Brothers did a remix of Snail Shell and called it Snail Dust. Just another Dust/Chemical Brothers relation. bye,brett,bass! ------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:48:23 +0100 From: jpt5@aber.ac.uk (JIM THOMPSON) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Football Championship >Ya know after re-reading me mail it did sound like I based me opinion of the >inspirals on that of what Tim said.I'd like to state that I did not like them >before I read that interview. It really gets on me tits to be missunderstood >that's why I'm writing this. I'VE NEVER LIKED THOSE SORRY C**** FROM >MANCHESTER!!!(the inspirals I mean) Regarding the above statement, well call me a pedant but the Inspirals are from Oldham anyway. Tosser. Cheers, Jim. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:32:14 +0100 (BST) From: Mr M P Donnelly Subject: Re: football (was: hello?) wales recently lost to the Third Division side Leyton Orient 2-1, and Orient weren't even playing a full strength side!!! Never mind --------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:37:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mr M P Donnelly Subject: Re: Football Championship Insprials are not sh*t They're dead good ---------------------------- Date: 13 Jun 96 09:30:00 -0500 From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com Subject: when I first stepped on the scene.... Sorry mates this has very little to do with the Charlies. I personally think that Tim has some good taste in Choosing the wu-tang. that's where method man, ole' dirty bastard, and redman came from. Although, I only OCCASIONALLY listen to method man; I'm not "down" with the hip hop scene, ken? But sometimes I need a little more than the hammond organs, beatles esque guitars, or trip pop type music. (there are 3 bands in the before sentence- can you guess which three? :) ) I'm not here to defend hip hop an that, but I just wanted to babble about how Tim made a good choice in the wu-tang, ken? I mean he could've gone with fuckin ice t or that punter snoop dog. I think this just shows that Tim (as always) has great taste. Sorry fer me babbling. Cheers Travis Slowly drifting... r3278c@email.mot.com ---------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:21:17 +0800 (WST) From: Kevin Johnson PhD Geopolitics Subject: Re: Football Championship > Insprials are not sh*t > They're dead good They're dead anyway ---------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:52:20 -0500 (CDT) From: tecwritr@wichita.fn.net (John Ball) Subject: Re: Football Championship >> Insprials are not sh*t >> They're dead good >> >> >They're dead anyway Here here, I'd say the late eighties early nineties was a terribly tastie year to imbibe tunes. Tekno was a new word and music lept to a new level. The SUMMER OF LOVE was 88 and 89 in england and the charlies were a band inspired by the world that surrounded them. E and A use was on the rise and the underground clubs like THE HACIENDA thrived before their demise to a very american (dare I let the hideious words pass my lips). But dear England rose to the highest level of savior faire seen to date. the charlies keyinintadisset dared to combine the forces of basic deep house roots and create the most influential Manchester band ever to grace great B? I think so sad the drunk with a blunt to back the attack. DOES ANYONE HEAR ME? P.S. WE here in the states who subscribe to MUSIC oriented boards do not appriciate you blooks clutterin the list with football notes! ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:32:01 +0800 (WST) From: Kevin Johnson PhD Geopolitics Subject: Re: Football Championship Hear you but not sure if I understand much beyond the fact that you like the Charlatans (sorry, can't bring myself to abbreviate the word), but I think thats all I needed to get from your message. ------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:16:41 +0100 From: ryan@paragon.co.uk (Ryan Butt) Subject: Re: Football Championship >Insprials are not sh*t >They're dead good Ha! The Inspirals were nothing but sad, pathetic-looking Roses wannabes who emerged purely to hop on the baggy bandwagon and earn a few bucks. Fair play then I suppose, but in all the time they were around (which was remarkably long for these fly-by-night cowboys), couldn't they have at least produced one decent tune? P.S. And don't give me none of the 'This is How it Feels' bollocks. Cool as fuck? -Crap as fuck more like! Ryan ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:42:51 +0100 From: jpt5@aber.ac.uk (JIM THOMPSON) Subject: Re: Not from Manchester Call me a pedant again, but, just as the Inspirals aren't from Manchester, neither are the Carlatans. They're from Northwich, Cheshire, not that close really. Cheers, Jim. ------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:46:39 +0100 From: jpt5@aber.ac.uk (JIM THOMPSON) Subject: Re: Inspirals?Northside?Smith. So what does anyone think about Northside? Actually I thought (and still do) think they're dead good, some stuff is better than the Inspirals. The carpets should be strung up for making a record with that stupid arrogant wanker Mark E. Smith. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:58:06 +0100 (BST) From: Mr M P Donnelly Subject: Re: Football Championship I'm not saying that the charlies are sh*t, but that the inspirals aren't bad either Michael ------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:16:22 +0100 (BST) From: "H.Ismail" Subject: Tim alert!! Has everyone seen this weeks Melody Maker? It's got an article on Euro 96 asking several band members who they think will win, who thwy want to win, who should have been there etc. Well Tim's one of them. He reckons Holland will win which is cool because I agree!! Check it out. Han --------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:00:55 -0400 From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans) Subject: Re: Inspirals?Northside?Smith. >So what does anyone think about Northside? Actually I thought (and still do) >think they're dead good, some stuff is better than the Inspirals. The >carpets should be strung up for making a record with that stupid arrogant >wanker Mark E. Smith. okay i thought morthside were great. i still do actually. they remind me of my youth. besides, they had some great bass lines in practically all their songs. and i never hated the inspiral carpets until the revenge of the goldfish album. their first two albums were not too bad at all. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:04:00 -0400 From: SPROSTON GREEN Subject: Reply to: Re: Hello? hey folks this is my first posting........josh you like the roots...same here i saw them in austin...........any charlies fans here in texas........ especially in austin....see ya guys later what you need is someone like me JaMeS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:20:46 +0100 (BST) From: Vickie the Viking Subject: Re: Not from Manchester Northwich is one cool place...buzzing with excitement and also has a nifty Salt museum and fabbo deptartment store. In addition, it used to boast Taffy's Carpets and Victor Value, and KILROY from BBC fame opened the Abbey National. IN fact, Northwich is so great, tears temporarily blinded me when I left a few months ago. Oh, to work for ICI...there is my true vocation. Northwich, my heart belongs to you. (This message was brought to you from the Northwich Tourism foundation, ambassadors including Charlatans and Sussed...and Inspiral Carpets??) -------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:26:41 -0500 From: Shane and Kari Winn Subject: Re: Inspirals? > and i never hated the inspiral carpets until the revenge of > the goldfish album. their first two albums were not too bad at all. I never hated the inspiral carpets either; in fact I've always enjoyed "Life". However, in comparison to the other bands concerned in that era, they were clearly on a lower level. Thought I'd throw my 2 cents in... Kari ------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:28:21 +0200 (METDST) From: Trygve Gudmundsen Subject: Happy birthday Eirik! The maintainer of this list; Eirik Gudmundsen, just turned 21 years thursday 13 june. Congratulations!! ------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 08:40:33 JST From: r_smith@Koyosha.CO.JP (hiroko takeda) Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik! happy birthday Eirik from me too. do you remember me?? -------------------------- Date: 14 Jun 96 11:03:00 -0500 From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com Subject: sorry all EVERYONE SORRY ABOUT THE LAST POST TO THE LIST. IT WAS INTENDED FOR HIRO. I FORGOT TO CHANGE THE ADDRESS. GOMENNASAI!!! Cheers t -------------------------- Date: 14 Jun 96 10:20:00 -0500 From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik! 21 eh? may yer birthday be filled with overflowing shots of Dram! Congrats. Cheers Travis I lick yer belly and I make ya smile r3278c@email.mot.com ------------------------------- Date: 14 Jun 96 10:51:00 -0500 From: Travis_Saunders-R3278C@email.mot.com Subject: Re[2]: Happy birthday Eirik! hi luv. I still haven't gotten paid yet and it's getting pretty rough. Me parents are goin back to the states for good next month sos I'm looking fer an apt in or around Jiyugaoka, for about a month. HONTO NI TAI HEN YO!! How's work? Things are pickin up around here (finally). Have yer been to Strangelove's lately? I've gotten a couple mensetsu coming up in the near future. dakara meishi wo tsukuru. I'm fuckin tired! i have not slept a lot as of late. Today is Naka's birthday. I told her to go to fuck awhile ago, sos I'm single again. Sorry fer the short letter, but gotta get to work. Cheers Travis Spronston green she used to please me, but now she hasn't got the time r3278c@email.mot.com -------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:12:02 -0700 From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe) Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik! Happy Birthday, Eirik! I just truned 20 on the 11th, so were almost like twins or something. Well, except that you're a year older and we aren't related. But aside from that... Jen -------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:11:26 -0700 (PDT) From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov) Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik! Happy Birthday, boy! Eirik, best wishes to you! Live it like you love it! Krassi ---------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:09:13 -0500 From: Shane and Kari Winn Subject: Re: Happy birthday Eirik! Dear Eirik, Have a very happy 21st birthday! Now go have a beer. 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